Watching the Belgium-USA game and from about an hour in the commentators have been pointing out how tired some players looked.
Really?
They have been playing more games in a harsher environment than they are used to ?
Aren't they allowed to be tired?
Watching the Belgium-USA game and from about an hour in the commentators have been pointing out how tired some players looked.Really?
Really, what?
Really, what?
Am I really watching the game or am I in some sophisticated Matrix like illusion.
or
Can they really only perform well for 60 mins and if so why?
Matrix like illusion.
Matrix like illusion
Fitness upload?
Can they really only perform well for 60 mins and if so why?
IIRC physical exertion is tiring
Spin, do you know much about football?
IIRC physical exertion is tiring
Yeah but an hour of running around a park doesn't mark some fundamental limit of human endurance.
Or does it?
Spin, do you know much about football?
F*ck all, which is why I asked.
Ok, imagine doing any sport in hot conditions as hard as you can for an hour? Tell me a sport where you wouldn't start to tire?
Yeah but an hour of running around a park doesn't mark some fundamental limit of human endurance.
Yea, and Bolt can't even manage 10 seconds, lazy ****er
Players run something like 10-12km in a game, some more some significantly less. A fair bit of that movement is spent at full sprint. That would get pretty tiring after a while.
an hour of running around a park doesn't mark some fundamental limit of human endurance.
Of course not that is why they are tired and not dead.
Commentators talk BS
The heat is sapping energy
they are in the middle of a tournament at the end of a long season
They are a bit tired.
Clearly a case of the wrong recovery drinks post match,ask molgrips.
They are a bit tired
Me too. I'm off to bed 🙂
Have you ever played a competitive football match Spin?
Ohh and each and every player in the Tournament will be exactly about a million times fitter than any of us could ever hope to be.
Or does it?
Yes, it does.
It's not a gentle 90 minute jog - watch the players. They spend a lot of time sprinting. There's enough money in football that if a team could just do a bit of training and get fitter than everyone else, they would.
Players run something like 10-12km in a game, some more some significantly less. A fair bit of that movement is spent at full sprint. That would get pretty tiring after a while.
That's pretty impressive, especially for the goalie 😉
Ok, imagine doing any sport in hot conditions as hard as you can for an hour? Tell me a sport where you wouldn't start to tire?
crown bowls.
I reckon i can take the players in a bike race, if it lasts more than 90 minutes 😉
26deg C ATM in Salvador. Footballers play in the winter in temps averaging between 3 and 12 deg C. Yes they are professional, but that doesn't change the fact it's a tad warm and humid in Brazil.
Here's something to try. Go out tomorrow on your bike at midday for 60 mins and do sprint intervals with zero rest. I wonder if you'd feel tired?
I'd be ****ed.
I ride bikes a lot.
I play football(wendyball) weekly. Oh how we laugh everytime that's rolled out.
I find the running about and the physical contact a LOT harder than mtbing.
Hour on the bike, hour playing football. Imo football leaves me more battered.
Ok, imagine doing any sport in hot conditions as hard as you can for an hour? Tell me a sport where you wouldn't start to tire?
crown bowls.
Cricket.
Yea, and Bolt can't even manage 10 seconds, lazy ****er
I'm told I can't even manage 8 seconds.....not sure what mrs b means? 😕
They run a lot and get kicked.
Football isn't the same as running. It sprints and a lot of twisting and turning. Its much more physically draining than running. And quite a world away from cycling.
Trying doing a hours worth of 100 metre spints and that's only half the story.
Seosamh said it while I was checking a stat.
The distance run stat is misleading. It's only about 12km in an average 90 mins, a distance runner would do closer to 30. And it's not the fact that it's often at a sprint - the refs do a similar distance, often at a sprint, yet while they are 40-45 year olds you don't see them cramping up with 15 mins to go. It's the constant direction changes, turns, acceleration, jumping, twisting.
Get 3 mates and a tennis ball. Mark out a 10*10 square. The 3 have to pass the ball between them inside the square while you try and intercept it. If you last a minute at full intensity, well done. Now rest for a minute and do it again, and again, and again....
Meh, Tuesday nights down the park we'd play for 3 hours.
15 all some nights and even the 'keepers had to do a stint.
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Seosamh said it while I was checking a stat.The distance run stat is misleading. It's only about 12km in an average 90 mins, a distance runner would do closer to 30. And it's not the fact that it's often at a sprint - the refs do a similar distance, often at a sprint, yet while they are 40-45 year olds you don't see them cramping up with 15 mins to go. It's the constant direction changes, turns, acceleration, jumping, twisting.
plus getting barged, kicked, hit, bitten, elbowed, knocked over etc
By comparison - rugbyists do an average of about 8km in 80 mins. Basketball about 4km in 48 mins. Tennis 3-5km depending whether it's 3 or 5 sets. Distance tells you nothing, you need to be supremely fit for all of them.
i havent seen many fat knackers out there those still in the competition all seem to have god like physiques.. those that havent have been in las vegas for the last week
Still, at least they don't need epo to make it interesting.
Still, at least they don't need epo to make it interesting.
Um.
Etc.
Still, at least they don't need epo to make it interesting.
That's debatable given footballs rewards and lack of drug testing.
I'd have thought steroids would be more useful than EPO though. Or maybe both.
Judging by how knackered I get if I play a game I'm not surprised they're tired.
I think if you try searching some stats you'd be amazed at the times they can cover a distance in. It's very stop start and 90 minutes of real pressure.
If you mean why can'y they play football for hours on end like a tour rider would cycle on a long stage...well. That thinking would make Usain Bolt the most pathetic over paid athlete in the world.
I know it's fun to knock the players, I think mainly because they get paid shed load and they and their sport is adored world wide, we'd love'em if they got fifty quid a week. But to think they ain't good athletes is very very naive.
Not a footy fan by any means, but I'm guessing that by getting to and staying at the top of the tree isn't easy in any sport
Ok, imagine doing any sport in hot conditions as hard as you can for an hour?
No one told the England players that's what they were supposed to do then?
I played football to a fairly high standard (Northern League)
Imagine doing very intense interval training for 90 minutes, very, very short sharp spikes, again and again and again, its relentless, and i imagine the higher you get the more relentless it becomes.
Make no bones about it, professional footballers are very very fit, but it's a very specific fitness
add in 30c heat, the amount of water the players will be losing is huge, and they won't be getting chances to fully replace it, they'll be dehydrated after 30 minutes.
Fell asleep in the England-Tunisia game
Must be far more tiring sitting in the clubhouse than running around kicking a ball for 90mins 😉
May be tired but some are still more than alert enough to make dives and face holding a near apparent reflex action, in a calculated decision to appeal to the ref. 😉 And to eat other players for dinner 😉
Can they really only perform well for 60 mins and if so why?
Game went to extra time. If anything, the performance level went up.
Commentators, and [s]trolls[/s] casual observers, make mistakes.
they all certainly 'put a shift in'
If I never hear that phrase again with regards to footballers doing their job it will be too soon
That bolt geezer only manages 20 seconds before he's tired. I'd imagine he could last longer if he went slower but then he wouldn't win.
Same for footballers, although some have the position on the field, and the benefit of experience and skill to make the ball do more work.
A World Cup series of games is brutal.
