[Closed] Football hegemony

Yes.

Next!.

I was questioning this last night - is it now a self propagating industry?
So large it gets the money, uses that for influence on TV schedules, so more people watch, so more money, so more TV time, so more influence, so more people watch etc...

It's football what do you expect? How will those with no life manage through the summer, they may have to actually watch real committed sports stars in Rio.

Yawn.....

[quote=Nobeerinthefridge ]Yawn.....

Yep, that's my usual reaction to football too

Me as well to be honest, just yawning at the usual anti footy snobbiness.

Carry on!.

Like it or lump it, but football is a huge money maker.
I wonder if it'll be possible to spot the haterz. It's been just over a month where they've not been able to tell us how much they hate. It must've been hell. All back to normal now there will be more football threads. 😆

they may have to actually watch real committed sports stars in Rio.

I usually avoid all of that sort of thing, but TBH when the BBC schedules are like this, I can understand why it gets called wendyball or other things by non fans who are tired of how pervasive it is. It's just far too dominant, when there's plenty of other sport which is rather more exciting to watch (or listen to commentary on) and has far more riding on than one of 380 premier league matches.

Is BBC1, BBC4 and BBC Sport website not enough Olympics coverage?
I'm looking forward to being able to easily find live updates from the Premier League on the BBC Sport page again instead of it being hidden behind non sports like horse dancing and jumping into a swimming pool.

If the Beeb management had any sense, they would pick some other sports and drive their popularity. Leave the money laundering boys to sky and BT.

[quote=mark88 ]Is BBC1, BBC4 and BBC Sport website not enough Olympics coverage?

Not when you're in the car and only have access to radio - which is the whole point. Is 206 weeks out of 208 not enough football coverage?

I far prefer watching (or listening to commentary on) those sports you're so dismissive of than <insert derogatory term for football here> and I'm sure I'm far from alone.

aracer - Member
mark88 » Is BBC1, BBC4 and BBC Sport website not enough Olympics coverage?
Not when you're in the car and only have access to radio - which is the whole point. Is 206 weeks out of 208 not enough football coverage?

I far prefer watching (or listening to commentary on) those sports you're so dismissive of than <insert derogatory term for football here> and I'm sure I'm far from alone.

If you were using your phone could you not have run the audio commentary from the BBC website?

[quote=seosamh77 ]They could put the olympics on at the end of june/start of july. problem solved?

Good point - clearly the Olympics should be scheduled not to conflict with the far more important English footie season.

tj - I was in the car driving before switching to 5live hoping for coverage. Could just about cope with selecting 5LSX on iPlayer radio whilst stopped at the lights (just a couple of clicks as it's the only channel I normally listen to on that, for cricket coverage). Haven't ever tried listening to audio commentary on the website on my phone - though was there even any audio only, video doesn't always work well on the move round here given the data rates I get, and it would eat my BW. Maybe you're more experienced at doing things like this with a smartphone and can give me some tips 😉

They do it deliberately to make softies cry.

Maybe theres lots of evidence that its the sport most people like the best. Iknow. Imagine that!

sometimes they ruin the wall to wall footy coverage with golf and that shit take days

hoping to listen to a bit of commentary on something Olympic, or maybe some updates on results I've missed

Did you want to listen to the commentary on the horse dancing? The badminton? Or one of the other sports you, and nobody else could give a shit about for the next 4 years?

Ironically the team playing tonight were the solitary beneficieries of the much vaunted legacy of the last overblown sports day

Radio Football Live does deserve its nickname. I too was somewhat surprised to discover commentary on a soccer match yesterday afternoon when I was gardening. Nothing on Sports Xtra following the end of the cricket - BBC have taken a TV and online approach which is a shame for us radio listeners.

A couple of years ago I was listening to an autumn international on the Radio and they interrupted commentary for the Half Time Scores.

If your in the car, why not listen to a music cassette instead?

A couple of years ago I was listening to an autumn international on the Radio and they interrupted commentary for the Half Time

That must've been [i]awful[/i] for you.
Bless.

[url= https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=olympic+football&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&ei=T7OyV53kI8KG8QeWkoGgDA#gfe_rd=cr&mie=oly%2C%5B%22%2Fm%2F02vx4%22%2C6%2C%22r%22%5D ]DO NOT PUT 5LIVE ON TO LISTEN TO THE OLYMPICS AT 17:00hrs TODAY!!! YOU'LL PROBABLY EXPLODE!!![/url]

The worse thing about this is the fact Costa was still on the pitch to score the equaliser.
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Ref had a shocker as Kante should have been off as well.

Anyway, I had already started a football thread, but we can use this one OP. I'm not fussed.

😉

[quote=binners ]Did you want to listen to the commentary on the horse dancing? The badminton? Or one of the other sports you, and nobody else could give a shit about for the next 4 years?

Nah, nothing so exciting was on - just some gobby overpaid bloke riding a bike round and round in circles.

[quote=captainsasquatch ]DO NOT PUT 5LIVE ON TO LISTEN TO THE OLYMPICS AT 17:00hrs TODAY!!! YOU'LL PROBABLY EXPLODE!!!

Strangely enough, checking the schedules, at 17:00 is the news and either side is coverage of interesting Olympic sports - it appears it's only the English local league which is more important.

I am enjoying all the football fans doing their best to prove the thread title though - bongohaha I can understand how you're sad about the lack of interest in your thread in comparison with how many people want to discuss all those "less popular" sports on the Olympics thread...

Does the BBC Sports app have audio commentary on it?

I am enjoying all the football fans doing their best to prove the thread title though

If there was a real demand for Olympic sports it [b]would[/b] be on telly and radio a lot more.

There isn't though. People get a bit excited about it every four years, but they'd be as bored as hell if they had to watch a swimming regatta or hockey match every weekend.

Football commands the coverage because the demand is there.

I am totally sick of the Olympics on the BBC.

They have more staff over in Rio than is in Team GB.

It is on Radio 5, BBC 1 and BBC 4. They have the first 15 minutes of the news dedicated to it.

There was no 606 on Sunday either, replaced by the bloody Olympics.

[quote=captainsasquatch ]Odd comment, especially in a football thread. Should we talk about how great synchronised swimming is?
The odd thing is how non-football fans think we are interested in how much they dislike football.

It's not a football thread, it's a thread about disliking football! Feel free head over to to bongohaha's popular thread if you don't want to read about people disliking football.

There's clearly a demand for Olympics, because it does matter, unlike one game out of 380 - I understand why football gets all the coverage the rest of the time, but actually lots of people are getting more excited about all these other sports than they are about football at the moment.

[quote=gobuchul ]I am totally sick of the Olympics on the BBC.
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There was no 606 on Sunday either, replaced by the bloody Olympics.

Well you're getting an insight into how non football fans feel most of the time then.

Did you think you'd keep the football fans off here by using fancy words? Shame on you.

In the spirit of hegemony, we claim this thread for detailed analysis of Brighton and Hove Albion's back four, or how Raheem Sterling's hair is shaping up.

Well you're getting an insight into how non football fans feel most of the time then.

I can see why you are annoyed and i do agree the olympics should have taken precedence over minor - all of them are at the start- games in the EPL
Modern life is wall to wall football and even as a fan i find myself losing interest in the constant coverage so it must be crap for non fans

It's not a football thread, it's a thread about disliking football! Feel free head over to to bongohaha's popular thread if you don't want to read about people disliking football.

I know it's in bad taste to the OP, but would be funny if this became the defacto football thread.

Bit like that incessant snow updates one 🙂

I know it's in bad taste to the OP, but would be funny if this became the defacto football thread.

Not bad taste, just proving a point!

I cannot believe Costa escaped a red card for that second challenge and he should never have been on the pitch to score

First lot of fixtures and here we are discussing ref allready 😈

I prefer Costa to Starbucks but think Cafe Nero is better than both.

Not bad taste, just proving a point!

Heres a question for football fans - as it appears that some are assembled.

Football - and in no small part English Premier League football - is probably the most watched and enjoyed sport in the world.

Given that

1. The most exciting bit of a football match (I imagine) is when someone scores a goal

and

2. Goals hardly ever get scored and its not uncommon for no goals to be scored at all

If the rules of football could be changed a bit (more or fewer players, a different sized pitch, bigger goals) so that a football scoreline would be something like 12:7 or 28:22 or even 116:106 instead of a dizzying 1:0 would [i]you[/i] enjoy the game more or less - seeing your team score more goals and seeing more goals being scored generally - and would the sport as a whole be improved by that or would it suffer?

Soccer. For all those awkward times when you've got nothing interesting to say to anyone about anything but you need to talk anyway.

I think there is a middle ground between the haterz and the loverz.

Maybe we can all meet there and play a game of football like the German and British soldiers did during WWI 😉

If the rules of football could be changed a bit (more or fewer players, a different sized pitch, bigger goals) so that a football scoreline would be something like 12:7 or 28:22 or even 116:106 instead of a dizzying 1:0 would you enjoy the game more or less - seeing your team score more goals and seeing more goals being scored generally - and would the sport as a whole be improved by that or would it suffer?

The Americans had a few ideas...

It wasn't on that 606 wasn't on on Sunday. I was looking for the mushroom cloud over North Laaahndon as calls for Arsene to go hit critical mass 😀

Has anyone mentioned egg-chasing yet? Apparently thats a much more civilised affair. With fans all hugging each other over a pint of Scruttocks Old Nobchomper, andplayers who stop the match to help little old ladies across the road, and get kittens down from trees. Not like the n'er-do-wells and rapscallions that watch and play football 😀

Soccer. For all those awkward times when you've got nothing interesting to say to anyone about anything but you need to talk anyway.

Soccer?

[b]ITS A HEADSTRIKE IN THE SCOREZOOOOOOOOOOOONE!!!!!!!!![/b]

The most exciting bit of a football match (I imagine) is when someone scores a goal

You are correct. Maybe.

The reason it's exciting is it doesn't happen very often.

Basketball is what you're describing. Perversely, failing to score is more interesting than scoring a basket, because that's what's expected as the end product of every attack.

I cannot believe Costa escaped a red card for that second challenge and he should never have been on the pitch to score

....and I can't believe you watched that scumbag instead of watching Cav going round in circles for (what seemed like) hours last night! 🙁

I watched Cav

I also watched Cav.

We have the technology.

I turned Cav over, with the intention of watching the last 10 laps or so, mistimed it and got the Italian on his victory lap. 😐

The reason it's exciting is it doesn't happen very often.

I think the reason football is exciting as a whole is that its unjust. The scoreline can never reflect the comparative merits of two reasonably match teams - such as two teams in a league. There will be all sorts of other metrics on the screen - possession, attempts on goal, shots on target - measures that Team A is performing better than Team B but the result doesn't reflect that.

I think football benefits massively from that - that its all unfair. Thats the romance isn't it?. That your little underdog team could one day be the giant slayers through what is basically a run of luck or that your dominant team of oligarch-funded delicate millionaires and sex pests could cock it all up in the last minute.

The unfairness seems to be what people love. Its possibly the root of football's problems with violence too - the fans need to set straight the injustice of the match.

But would football fans want to fix that - repair the rules of the game? Or is the soap opera worth more than the sport?

Looking forward to the Olympic football semis today and tomorrow .
Should get some decent coverage too.

Interesting to see who wins the whinge-off over this, the soccer-haterz or the olympic-legacy-was-so-unfair-ill-skweeeeeeeeeeemandskweeeeeeeeeemandskweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeem bunch

Probably in 5Lives contract that they put the football on as a priority.

The most exciting bit of a football match (I imagine) is when someone scores a goal

Everyone loves a goal, but I also love an well organised defence, a quality defence splitting through ball and the (fair) physical confrontations. I should have been born Italian 😉

The most exciting bit of a football match (I imagine) is when someone scores a goal

It's the little things as well. For example I am a big fan of an excellent first touch...

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[quote=Junkyard ]Its popular you dont like it
No offence but deal with it as it is not going away

I deal with it just fine most of the time - I just don't listen to 5live anymore, except on this rare occasion when I thought they might cover something else - was replying to a football fan who was upset at his usual wall to wall coverage being slightly disrupted. Though clearly you appreciate my perspective and why I'm a bit annoyed - thanks!

[quote=captainsasquatch ]

Not bad taste, just proving a point!

Good to see THM gets it - I already mentioned I'm finding it amusing. Not quite sure if all the football fans do. Do you appreciate why it generates haters? Though I should point out that complaining on this thread about haters posting on football threads is like a driver complaining to a law abiding cyclist about other cyclists jumping red lights. This thread is very definitely an appropriate place to complain about things related to football, and if you want to hijack it then it's your own fault if the "football thread" has haters on it. 😆

Given that Talksport also cover the Premier League and are unashamedly not interested in any other sport than football (other than covering the golf open which p*sses off their fanbase no end) surely some far-sighted BBC exec could have arranged for the Olympics to take priority?

I am a keen football fan but would be more than happy for the Olympics to take first place on the radio as, if I am not at the match in person, then I could watch it on TV or stream commentary from the team site.

Football is too popular imo. The players and agents get too much and the number of journalists/old pro's making a living from writing uninsightful trash is unbelievable.

So which key it of the Olympics did you miss?

The bit they wanted to listen to on the radio?

I'm a football fan, although my team are really trying to persuade me otherwise, but I do see OP's point. They should have pushed the football to R5X just for the Monday/Friday* games. Weekend matches don't really clash due to time diff.

*Yup. Prem games on some Friday nights now.

maccruiskeen - Member
Heres a question for football fans - as it appears that some are assembled.

Football - and in no small part English Premier League football - is probably the most watched and enjoyed sport in the world.

Given that

1. The most exciting bit of a football match (I imagine) is when someone scores a goal

and

2. Goals hardly ever get scored and its not uncommon for no goals to be scored at all

If the rules of football could be changed a bit (more or fewer players, a different sized pitch, bigger goals) so that a football scoreline would be something like 12:7 or 28:22 or even 116:106 instead of a dizzying 1:0 would you enjoy the game more or less - seeing your team score more goals and seeing more goals being scored generally - and would the sport as a whole be improved by that or would it suffer?

The bit they wanted to listen to on the radio?

In the car this evening, hoping to listen to a bit of commentary on something Olympic, or maybe some updates on results I've missed

The Omniums?

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So which key it of the Olympics did you miss?

+1 there was actually very little of note on while the Chelsea v West Ham match took place. There was a little overlap with Cav in the points race, but even then you'd not have missed they key stages.

[quote=mikewsmith ]So which key it of the Olympics did you miss?

I guess you missed this key bit of the thread:

[quote=aracer ]Nah, nothing so exciting was on - just some gobby overpaid bloke riding a bike round and round in circles.

Though as dragon comments, nothing much of note, just the omnium men's flying lap, women's IP and the start of the men's points (not just a little overlap though - the schedule had the footy until 22:00, presumably they were talking about it after the match - though I was home by then).

Not sure why you need coverage of football until April or May, not like you're missing the key stages before that.

What that you wanted to moan?

[quote=bongohoohaa ]Weekend matches don't really clash due to time diff.

Couldn't quite remember what I was wanting to catch on Saturday afternoon when I was out and football commentary on, though not something I was so bothered about - a quick check of schedules shows rowing finals when footie matches would have been on (though I watched them at home). I'm sure there will be stuff this weekend.

[quote=bongohoohaa ]Weekend matches don't really clash due to time diff.
*Yup. Prem games on some Friday nights now.

Sure enough - if you wanted to listen to sports commentary on BBC radio this afternoon when the women's triathlon was on, you had a choice of football or cricket.

Though I note they did manage to put the hockey last night on 5LSX and even deigned to go to that on 5L when the footies had finished.