In other news Rooney might be free soon, now Plymouth have hit rock bottom after he lost 4-0 to a team managed by Frank Lampard.
The Derby County Rejects Derby?
@Binners - Well at least you can have a reversal of current form this evening. Newcastle never win at Old Trafford.
For some reason, Man United always turn into a powerhouse against us.
Then Spurs will sort themselves out next week and we will be back mid table.
@gobuchul - I wouldn’t worry. I can’t see anything else other than us getting an absolute battering tonight, which should be a nice dress rehearsal for the absolute shoeings we’re going to take at Liverpool and Arsenal next.
We’ll get nil point from the next 3 games and probably another 10+ GA added to our already shocking goal difference. Given the results from teams below us we could be in 16th or 17th by then and well and truly in a relegation scrap
Bruno is suspended for tonight and he’s the only player we’ve got who isn’t absolutely hopeless.
I may stick a couple of quid on an Isak hatrick. He must be rubbing his hands with glee, looking at our static defence. Just imagine what Salah is going to do on Sunday? I don’t even want to think about it.
Really entertaining game at Wrexham yesterday and Wigan were unlucky not to get at least a point, the difference being we had 37 year old Stephen Fletcher to bring on and win it for us in injury time. There's not much between the top 16 sides in EFL 1 apart from Birmingham who I think will pull away in 2025. The second automatic will be a right old ding-dong but we have to improve our away form having played 13 at home W11D2L0 against 10 away W3D4L3.
I wouldn’t worry. I can’t see anything else other than us getting an absolute battering tonight,
Newcastle 2 up after 20 minutes. If they keep pushing, it could easily be 5 before half time.
this quote from Gary Neville sums it up “Casemiro and Eriksen are like mannequins, they shouldn't be playing together in the Premier League"
First live game I've watched this Chrimbo and I think it will take Ruben Amorim 11 transfer windows to overhaul this team.
this quote from Gary Neville sums it up “Casemiro and Eriksen are like mannequins, they shouldn’t be playing together in the Premier League
When I saw the team sheet before the match with those two next to each other, my exact words were ‘**** me, you may as well stick 2 statues in midfield’.
Newcastle should be 4 or 5 up already. I’m just wondering what Gakpo, Salah and Diaz are going to do to this static midfield and defence on Sunday. They must surely believe they can get into double figures
Got a shock when we came out the panto and saw the score at Portman Road.
Mustn't blow it....
came out the panto
Oh no you've not.
Carry on the panto with the United midfield…
He’s behiiiiiind yoooou!!!!
He’s behiiiiiind yoooou!!!!
Well, nowhere near you, would be more precise.
Well, we appear to be living happily ever after!
My poor Chelsea supporting relatives
Two losses and a draw? CRISIS AT CHELSEA! 🙂
Man City take themselves out of contention for the title, but no-one apart from Liverpool seems to want to even challenge for it.
Looks like Liverpool’s to lose - the best all round team playing the best football at the moment. Chasing pack is too far behind and not looking capable of winning every match from here on
I think Arsenal are the only serious rivals now, can see them grinding out plenty of 1-0 victories. Also slightly cautious of the Liverpool contract situation for Virgil, Salah and Trent, becoming a distraction.
Would be a slip-up of Gerrard proportions if Liverpool did not sort out two of those three contracts. Not sure why TAA wants to leave for Madrid, can't see him being automatic first pick there.
Well Newcastle should of been 4 or 5 up at half time.
I must admit, at 1 point in the 2nd half I thought Man Utd were going to get back in to it.
The way the home fans treat Zirkzee was absolutely disgusting. They should hang their heads in shame.
This is how they treat one of their own as well.
https://twitter.com/MufcWonItAll2/status/1873805884692062399
I have to agree with you that Zirkzee being singled out like that was absolutely disgusting! He had an appalling game, but so did everyone else, as they all have done every week. So boo the lot of the lazy, overpaid bastards off at the end. Don’t single. out individuals.
The present situation isnt his fault. It the inevitable result of 20 years of shambolic, greedy and parasitic absentee ownership that’s rotten to the core! And it then turns out that the guy who was meant ride to the rescue is not just more of the same, he’s actually worse, if that was even thought possible?! The club is ****ed!
So lay the blame where it’s due! Don’t pick on some young lad who’s doubtless out of his depth, but is in a new place and is clearly having a terrible time of it. I was ashamed to be a United fan watching that last night. It was embarrassing!
I’m actually at the point now where I’m half hoping that the previously unthinkable happens and we get relegated. We deserve to be and let’s see what happens without the Premier League TV revenues. Maybe that’s what it’s going to take to sort the club out? Because you keep thinking it can’t get any worse and yet it does.
Maybe the Newcastle fans were right last night singing ‘say hello to Sunderland’. They know enough about terrible owners. We are most definitely in a relegation battle now.
It’s hard to see how they stop the spiral they’re in. They need players who can play in Amorim’s system but the PSR rules and the fact who’s going to want to go there currently and who’ll buy players off them makes it hard to see them signing anyone decent. Amorim needs to swallow his pride and change the formation, and try and get some momentum back. Make them at least harder to beat. I do wonder as well if he’s lost the dressing room, to coin a cliche, already, with his treatment of Rashford and Garnacho? Loves the sound of his own voice too, and his genius formation.
Amorim already knows that he won’t have money for transfers. The (useless) squad he’s got is what he’s saddled with for the duration
He has to sell before he can buy, but who’s going to want the likes of Antony, a supposed 85 million pound player with a 5 year contract on £250,000 a week who’s played less than an hours first team football this season - because he’s shite! - and who’s only goal was against Barnsley in the League Cup? I’ll tell you who… absolutely nobody! Same goes for the rest of the squad to varying degrees. who the hell negotiated these insane transfer fees and ludicrous contracts?
They want 50 million for Rashford and he wants 350 grand a week. Good luck with that! He’s going nowhere!
I’d put my house on there being no clauses in those contracts for a reduction in wages if relegated, so they’ll all still be in half a million a week while losing to Sunderland
As for losing the dressing room. Looks like the players have downed tools already, like they have done with all the previous managers. I’ve lost count of how many now, but it’s the same routine every time
Those players are going nowhere.
They are on massive money and are underachieving.
There's only the EPL Clubs that have any money, most of Europe are completely skint.
Even if someone was stupid enough, the PSR rules would make it impossible.
It's a bizarre situation, he's only been there about 6 weeks, has won 1 league game and that was against Citeh, looks like he "has lost the dressing room".
Are they going to carry on?
What's Ole up to at the moment?
Getting Moyes back wouldn't have been the worst idea in the world.
They're gonna get absolutely rinsed trying to pick up a couple of decent wing backs in the next month or so, it's the golden goose!
Getting Moyes back wouldn’t have been the worst idea in the world.
David "the best manager ever who also played for Shrewsbury town" Moyes is amazing at getting a core of decent players organised and drilled and playing above their level.
But he has shown no real ability to motivate a bunch of glamorous 23 year olds who are richer than god and can't be arsed to try. I couldn't see him succeeding at Utd if he came in now.
There’s only the EPL Clubs that have any money, most of Europe are completely skint.
As a direct comparison with the rest of Europe (and even most EPL clubs), Antony was on 24k a week at Ajax, then moved to United on a 5 year £250k a week contract. Can anyone see anything other than him ‘doing a Phil Jones’ and just seeing out the remaining years of his contract, at vast expense to the club, while never actually playing?
It’s an absolute shitshow! The worst managed club in the world, bar none!
Who can blame him?
Young bloke from the favela's getting £60 million for turning up to training 3 days a week.
Who agreed that deal?
Who agreed that deal?
The question we’ve all been asking ourselves for over a decade. Who extended Phil Jones contract when he hadn’t played for years? Who signed Alexis Sanchez on 400 grand a week? Who let Pogba go on a free then bought him back for 90 million? Who pursued Sancho for years, finally signed him for £75 million then left him sat on the bench until he left on loan to Chelsea? Who made Harry Maguire the most expensive defender in football history? Who thought Hojland was worth 80 million?
The list goes on and on and on…..
Spent the night before last in London with my sister and her aunts supporting husband and sons. (He’s Manc born and bred and they’re his kids, so that’s fine with me.). Talk about depressed. :o)
I worried some months ago that Utd being so utterly shite and shambolic would stop being funny.
It hasn’t.
It’s only going to get funnier for you on Sunday Bravissimo.
I think I’m going to delete all my social media accounts, turn my phone off and watch it in a darkened room after I’ve removed all sharp objects. You’ve got to be looking at the recent 7 nil and thinking you could probably comfortably hit that before half time
I only check in on this thread for Binners' posts. Comedy Gold 🙂
Does irk me somewhat the BBC paying Phil Jones as a pundit - the dude’s played as much football as I have in the last decade! Let’s get Binners signed up for United games commentary.
In other news Plymouth have seen the error of their ways and sacked Rooney. He’s an utterly terrible manager.
Didn't want when he came to Brum, but ok - "we've got him now, let's hope for the best". We were terrible under him, and only ever got worse - to be fair, he got dog's abuse from the home fans from day one, which didn't help. Amazed Plymouth took him on - surely that's his last post at anything higher than Sunday League, until he shows he's learned how to do the job?
In other news Plymouth have seen the error of their ways and sacked Rooney. He’s an utterly terrible manager.
I thought he showed some promise at Derby but it seems to have been downhill ever since.
Just checked his stats. 6 EPL appearances in his last 4 years.
Usually as a second half sub when everyone else, including the kit man, is injured. At £150,000 a week I don’t know how many million quid a minute of playing time that works out as, but it’s nice work if you can get it
Listening to his voice punditting now sets me off twitching. God knows what compromising photos of whom he’s got to keep getting the gigs he does
I only check in on this thread for Binners’ posts. Comedy Gold
I’m glad to be of service. This thread is just where I come to howl into the void. It’s like therapy
Just heard on the radio that Radcliff got rid of Ferguson's ambassador's role!
Sir Jim seems to be in some kind of competition to make himself even more unpopular than the Glazers. His penny-pinching with staff, stewards and supporters stands in sharp contrast to the ‘pissed sailor on shore leave’ headless chicken profligacy in the transfer market.
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss…
Sir Jim seems to be in some kind of competition to make himself even more unpopular than the Glazers.
I don't much like the bloke anyway but it's amusing how he keeps throwing money in to sports ventures and they all turn to shit, be that the borderline collapse of Team Sky/INEOS Grenadiers in the cycling, the same with Man Utd or the inability of INEOS Britannia to win the America's Cup.
Well before we've all taken our Trump off the Christmas tree Man City have as us traditional, turned back into a stream roller. 5 in a row?
Nah - apparently not a 4-1 today with West Ham missing a host of good chances. I think they’re too far back.
I'm think the Liverpool goalie will also get on the score sheet.
Well, the team who have lost the most points from a winning position have just taken the lead....
Bugger.
It’s a good match this though. Proper end to end stuff.
I expect all the action in the next game will all be taking place in one half of the pitch. I’ve had a bet on Bruno getting himself sent off again. I think he does it on purpose when games are going really badly and this one has the potential to go really, really, really badly
I’ve had a bet on Bruno getting himself sent off again. I think he does it on purpose when games are going really badly
Now you mention it....
Amorins pre-match team talk could involve "You do know even Ipswich are only 4 points behind us..." (Assuming Fulham don't inevitably turn it around)
You just cursed yourself there fella. Never ever vocalise it before the final whistle
Cracking second half that though.
I see perma-angry Roy Keane and fashionista simpleton Daniel Sturridge are the pundits for this. Should be interesting and quite possibly violent. The look of contempt on Roy’s face when Sturridge is spouting utter drivel….
I’ve had a bet on Bruno getting himself sent off again.
WGAS shit what you've bet on; what's written on "The Scourge of the Bookies" slip?
Hoping Utd can do us a favour in the title race today 😉
@theotherjonv - I’ve not felt it necessary to ask her, but I think it’s pretty safe to assume where her money is on this one. I’m just hoping she keeps the s****ing down to a minimum
EDIT: I just asked her and she says she hasn’t even bothered betting on it as the odds were so low
she hasn’t even bothered betting on it as the odds were so low
Yep, won't get much towards the Big Coat when the winter really kicks in. But might still be entertaining. ManU will win now.
What a cracking second half. Slabhead had a pretty good match so it was inevitable he’d fluff his lines. And I’ve won a bet for a change. I had a (somewhat optimistic) few quid on a draw at 5/1
And we’re up to 13th 😀
We’re going to lose to Southampton next weekend, aren’t we?
Utd’s biggest win of the season. That was bound to happen, given the narrative all week all over radio, social media etc. all week.
It’s felt for a few weeks like TAA’s head has been turned. Liverpool were wide open down that side all game. I wish Slot had brought Bradley on much earlier. He looked fairly on it when he came on.
Trent looks like his heads at Real Madrid already. I think that’s as bad as I’ve ever seen him play (thankfully)
Biggest win of the season, ****s sake, you pissed?
Keep bigging yourself up scousers, it was a ****ing draw, at home, against a shit team.
****ing arseholes.
Oh wow. ☺️
u ok hun?
Hopefully Madrid witnessed Trent’s defending and think again. Sign Dalot instead.
And Tranmere’s response? “Nah, we’re good thanks’! Funny!
Six wins in a row for Forest. As a Forest fan for almost 40 years, through the highs of the 70s/80s and then the seemingly never ending underachieving years of the lower divisions this season is just so enjoyable and well deserved.
The hurt of having to endure terrible managers such as Platt, Megson, Cadlerwood, Kinnear, McLeish and McClaren has been well and truly been healed via Cooper and now Nuno.
Dare we dream about European nights at the City Ground next season???
Bring on Liverpool!
I hope not to regret that next week 🙂
Nuno, nuno nuno, nuno nuno there's no limits...
Sorry
Maybe all premier league clubs could ignore PSR, take a 4 point deduction and reap the benefits the year after….
Forest absolutely deserve their position based on their play this season but as an Ipswich fan living close to Nottingham, you're all doing my head in! (Laugh emoji)
Derby fans have gone ominously quiet.
I can’t help think what could have been if Jeff Shi had backed Nuno and given him the players to match his ambition after promotion and then two top half finishes and a season in Europe. Nuno will always be loved by Wolves fans and I’ll admit that I’m happy with the success he’s having at Forest.
Excellent Carabao cup semi final on ITV at the moment, cracking game.
He had difficulties at first, obviously; then Howe took some time to ease him in and find the right role for him alongside Guimares - but now he's found it, what a player Tonali looks.
He's solidified them unbelievably, mopping around behind the midfield when out of possession, creating angles when they have the ball to enable them to keep it after transition. And looks like he'll run for ever.
Yep, you can see why they stood by him! And that Isak bloke’s ok too.
but now he’s found it, what a player Tonali looks
Been a long time since I felt this optimistic about a toon team but there are very few players I'd swap for others. Botman, Burn, Hall, Livramento, Guimaraes, Tonali, Joelinton, Gordon and Isak I wouldn't swap for anyone. Tonali in particular is the classiest player I've seen in a Newcastle shirt since Gazza. Dangerous to have some hope but big things are on the horizon if we can keep the core intact and add to it with some others of similar quality. Even if we were selling there are few other clubs who could sell 3 or 4 players for 100M+.
Meanwhile in other news...
Strong rumours before last night of Dubravka to Saudi, and him waving to fans with a tear in the eye and last man off the pitch last night hasn't exactly quashed it. He's been a great player for United, not a lot of fun being 2nd choice keeper and he had a shaky spell when Pope had the shoulder injury, but this last run he's been amazing - 2 goals in 7 games I think. Bookended his Toon career with a worldy vs Man Utd and a clean sheet at the Library, seems appropriate.
In pure GK terms Pope is better but I actually think with the style Howe has developed, Dubravka is the better option with ball at feet - but looks like Trafford will be coming in, and he's probably a better long term option than both, so sad to see a faithful servant go but probably the right time.
And what with him going to a Saudi club for £120m as well - happy FSR days 😉 That is allowed isn't it?
In pure GK terms Pope is better but I actually think with the style Howe has developed, Dubravka is the better option with ball at feet
Yep I agree, I think he gets a very hard time of the fans - he's a decent shot stopper, and much better with ball at feet. I wish him nothing but the best.
Tonali gets better every game. everything is forward, he creates so much. Him sitting in that DM role has really made us hard to break down on the counter. the 2 goals against in 7 games is a lot to do with him...
Happy times 🙂
Arsenal on that performance seems to be suffering from Man City's disability to cope without a key player. Newcastle did look good though.