The first pen shout would have been soft. The second should have been a pen vs what other stuff you see given. And the second (?) West Ham goal shouldn't have been given due to a blatant foul in the lead up to it which the ref let go.
Feel a bit sorry for Wolves. Those years of over indulgence of dodgy agents buying up half of Portugal seems to be coming back to haunt them now - their team is absolutely dire apart from a couple of players and Gary O'Neill seems like a decent bloke.
What a team West Ham are though... 2-1 up with 10 to go and the stadium empties. The number of empty seats at the end was an absolute embarrassment... players walking around applauding a stadium thats literally almost empty. That said, I'm not surprised there was moaning when 8 minutes of added time went up... I'm not sure I'd have wanted to stay and watch another 8 minutes of that.
What a team West Ham are though… 2-1 up with 10 to go and the stadium empties. The number of empty seats at the end was an absolute embarrassment…
The football is dreadful, has been for ages, and supporters are voting with their feet. I'm usually thrilled when we win but couldn't get excited at all last night. Don't forget that the new stadium nearly doubled capacity and I suspect that a lot of newer attendees expect better from their exorbitantly priced tickets. Whereas some older supporters have given up all together.
Scraping by the worst team in the league thanks to dubious VAR calls doesn't really get the pulse racing.
The football is dreadful, has been for ages, and supporters are voting with their feet.
It’s the same at Old Trafford. The Forest game was the first game in living memory that wasn’t sold out. There were thousands of tickets left despite them being on general sale, which never happens. I reached my limit last season and just wasn’t prepared to pay any more good money to watch that shite. Now they’ve bumped the cheapest tickets to £66 a pop, they can **** right off!
"Scraping by the worst team in the league thanks to dubious VAR calls doesn’t really get the pulse racing."
What's the point in saints going balls out for the title of Worst Prem Team In History if people aren't even going to acknowledge our dedication? Shame on you!
There are many reasons to love Cole Palmer, the main one being his nonchalant and defiantly un-media-coached post-match interviews. In an era where all players just regurgitate the same dull and predictable platitudes. he really did surpass himself on Sunday
“Were you worried when you went two goals behind?”
”No, we weren’t really bothered. It’s Tottenham innit?”
I do feel a bit dirty, liking a Chelsea player, but he’s (unintentional) comedy gold 😀
Reading were winning 1-0 with 9 men right up until the 97th minute. Then Walsall scored. Went to penalties and the Biscuitmen lose 4-2. Pure evil.
I do feel a bit dirty, liking a Chelsea player, but he’s (unintentional) comedy gold ?
I don't know how true this is but apparently he's as simple as Baldrick.
On the flip side, what felt like a massive win for Leeds last night. Nice to play a team who actually try and play some open football rather than sitting back for 90 minutes.
Nice to be on the other end of a last minute goal this season and to get another 3 points after dropping 15 from a winning position already. Still, if we can't beat wolves we have no chance!
Nice to be on the other end of a last minute goal this season and to get another 3 points after dropping 15 from a winning position already.
Still pretty sure we'll be going down, but at least we've beaten Derby's record lowest points total. I only caught some pics on Final Score but it looked like it kicked off after the game as well.
If only we could win at home.....
A good set of results for Chelsea today. I doubt anyone had them down as title contenders at the start of the season, but they’ll be 2 points of Liverpool if they win tomorrow.
I believe there’s another game tomorrow between the title holders and a side presently floundering at the bottom end of the table that might have some bearing on proceedings?
Chelsea have a good looking run of fixtures coming up too. And they play the reserves in Europe, they should be nice and fresh.
Pretty impressive point for Liverpool though - 70 minutes with ten men v a good side. Robertson’s not having a great season by his standards.
The result of the weekend has to be Forest moving above City into the top four. Nobody saw that one coming. Bonkers!
Ideally I’d like to see how Pep does flying to Kazakstan on a Thursday night for a UEFA conference league game 😀
You all seem to forget that City go into turbo mode after Chrimbo.
Still pretty sure we’ll be going down
Absolutely. Caught up with a mate from home when seeing Shed Seven in Brixton this evening and we both agreed that the current bottom three will.likely be the bottom three at the end of the season, and actually we should be ok with that. The last two seasons have given us hope but at the end of the day, I'm just happy to get a season in the prem. Still there's no harm in hoping...
You all seem to forget that City go into turbo mode after Chrimbo.
Indeed. As Fergie always said: the league doesn’t start until January
January is when Liverpool and Arsenal tend to endure a sticky patch. Looks like they’ve both started early this year
Arsenal have looked like they needed a mid-season break since October. Last game on MOTD told you all you needed to know about what we saw at the Emirates yesterday.
Arsenal seem to have spent all their time training their attackers how to score from corners and not any time on actual shooting practice from open play.
It has all become a bit too choreographed and predictable, so the low block is working. I know the statistics say that shooting from outside the box is a low yielding way to go about your business but we have reverted to Wenger Ball and trying to walk it into the net.
So the big one is imminent: can TNS get one over Colwyn Bay?
I’m just happy to get a season in the prem. Still there’s no harm in hoping…
Very much my view. Brighton didn't exactly help us today though!
And the award for the most embarrassing, pathetic dive of the season goes to…..
Kyle Walker
Good to see him get carded for it. Shithousery of the highest order
Yep, Rivaldo level of shithousery. Gotta get rid of that out of the game. Walker should have walked.
Citeh ?
Utd doing Arsenal and Liverpool a favour.
Pep looked shell shocked at full time. 1 win in 11 now, could Pep walk? I don’t think he is at risk of being sacked but think he might walk.
Crazy result! How can such an amazing team fall apart so badly? And that’s from a Liverpool fan - it’s nuts that the Manc derby was between 5th and 13th, let alone for this utd team to beat them at the Etihad!
Didn’t see that coming! What an awful game, not that United will care. I doubt playing like that was the plan, benevolent from City!
For once, Mrs Binners didn’t win her bet. I did though. I don’t give a shit about where we are in the league, only two games really matter… us and Citeh or Liverpool.
I watchrd this in the pub in town and it went mental when the winner went in 😀

Only 13 points needed for the magic 40. Perhaps the players have been told that the PL intends to relegate them anyhow this season?
Pep looked shell shocked at full time. 1 win in 11 now, could Pep walk? I don’t think he is at risk of being sacked but think he might walk.
He won't be sacked but he comes across as the type to make it all about himself and walk. Make a massive deal about it etc. He's as media hungry as Klopp was.
Was funny though... Hardly a surprise though when you've got 34 year old De Bruyne passing to 34 year old Gundogan passing to 34 year old Kyle Walker who was viciously assaulted by Hojlund. In between you have a winger (who isn't really good enough for Man City anyway) playing right back with some inevitable consequences. Doku approaching defenders and then doing that weird wobbly movement before losing the ball, Haaland barely having a touch because he just lumbers around up front waiting for someone to give it him on a plate and then to try and win something, throw Jack Grealish on, one of the most over rated players the game has ever seen...
Meanwhile Leeds did Leedsey things by struggling to break down a defensive team. That said, they should have been down to 10 for those two challenges by Whiteman. Yellow card and then 4 minutes later goes in studs showing on the edge of the box and gets nothing... Awful refereeing....
Walker should of got a red card. Absolute joke.
Amad is going to be some footballer, he was the best player on the pitch.
Walker should of got a red card. Absolute joke.
Not sure its a red but there should be tougher actions for simulation of any kind - how often do you see a yellow dished out for a player throwing themselves to the floor in the box? And yet it happens every game.
how often do you see a yellow dished out for a player throwing themselves to the floor in the box?
There's simulation and simulation.
A tangle of legs in the box is different from feigning violent conduct, by pretending you have just been head butted in order to get a player sent off.
Rasmus Hojland Instagram post after the match was brilliant! 😀

When it comes to 'guess the country' the ambiguously named Shamrock Rovers never does too well. Much like I imagine they will tonight. Could be a GAA score.
I don’t think Spurs could be Spursy enough to lose this now. Talk about naive defending? That and nobody up front looks like they could hit a cows arse with a banjo. I’d keep your head down if you’re sat in Row Z… Hojlands about
OMG what is Forster doing?!! Yes, Binners, Spurs can lose this.
It’s a goalie disasterclass!
Famous Last Words, but if anyone is going to catch Liverpool I don't think it will be Man City
Citeh will be mid table at best at this rate!
Remarkable collapse at City, but the signs were there. When we (Arsenal) got the draw at Maine Road early in the season the main story was the sending off and the whole second half on the defensive and the last gasp equaliser by City. But there were two other aspects to that game. Firstly, just how poor City were in going about getting the equaliser - lots of play around the box culminating in long range shots from defenders. Secondly, although they totally outplayed us in for the first 20 minutes, as soon as we got some possession and got as far as the half way line they totally backed off to defend at the penalty box - hardly the mindset of a team brimming with self-belief. It's as though the whole team has a hit a wall.
Citeh will be mid table at best at this rate
Given how congested the table presently is, once you’re below the top four, there’s quite a few teams could soon overtake them if their form doesn’t improve. If somebody told you at the start of the season Citeh would be where they are at Christmas, after a run of losses like this, you’d have laughed at them.
Don't worry all you City fans, Ipswich will always be behind you....
C'mon Palace!
Jesus must wish he could play Palace twice a week, every week
Doesn’t feel like Palace deserve to be 4-1 down! Jesus should have had all four.
The Bournmouth fans are singing 'can we play you every week?'
I'm not surprised. At least we're consistent. Consistently shite and getting battered at home once again by Bournmouth.
I think someones realising what a squad of absolute donkey's he's been saddled with. Short of giving them all away to anyone who'll have 'em - maybe a French second division side - and starting from scratch again, it really is difficult to see how anyone could get a decent performance out of this gang of overpaid clowns

Well that was absolutely nuts! We were talking before kick off and saying how you’d have to be mad to predict a scoreline for this one. Bonkers!
Unfortunately, for a United fan with lots of scouse mates, Liverpool look they’ve got a title-winning momentum going
We’ve a squad with nobody who could hit water if they fell out of a boat. Woeful!
I caught myself almost feeling sorry for United today. The players were already struggling with ETHs ‘system’ with confidence rock bottom and then some PR savvy bloke from the 6th or 7th best league in Europe rocks up with a fancy system, alien to most, and changes the team constantly. There’s gonna be teething problems, to put it mildly.
I caught myself almost feeling sorry for United today.
Nah, it's still hilarious.
At least we’re consistent.
Meanwhile the toon have just figured out the Tonali/Guimaraes problem, Alexander Isak has just hit top form and we’re looking scarily good again after half a season of Jekyll and Hyde football. Roll on Monday 🙂
I caught myself almost feeling sorry for United today.
😀
Should be an interesting days footy. I’m debating whether I can even be bothered watching us lose to Wolves
Man U are really going to be looking forward to Sunday.
Largest town in Britain beat the second largest quite convincingly.
Great start to the second half by United. Another absolutely stupid red for Bruno and that’s him and Ugarte suspended for the Newcastle game on Monday, where we’ll no doubt get absolutely mullered
Looks like Amorim fancies ending his first season in the Premier League with a relegation battle.
Toothless up front, dodgy at the back, pedestrian midfield and an erratic goalie. Ace.
It’s truly staggering the disconnect between the huge transfer fees and salaries these players commanded and they’re absolutely pitiful on-pitch displays, week after week. They honestly look like relegation fodder
It goes without saying that my darling wife is enjoying this and counting down to her winnings
Good job the ref is wearing hiviz, or I wouldn't know where the action was at Anfield.
So how long does Amorim get before he gets the same flak Ange gets for refusing to adapt and change the system. Clearly the players are struggling with his 3-4-3. Looks like he needs many, many players to play the way he wants and I can’t see who’d go there. Sporting have sacked his predecessor…….
So how long does Amorim get before he gets the same flak Ange gets for refusing to adapt and change the system
All the wise heads have said he needs at least 2 transfer windows to get players he needs, which sounds a minimum.
Anyway, has MrsBinners put a tenner on Ipswich to get their second win away in the capital?
She did more than alright yesterday. She had Fulham to win at Stamford Bridge too and Everton to draw at Citeh
So how long does Amorim get before he gets the same flak Ange gets for refusing to adapt and change the system
The problems at United are now so terminally entrained, where do you even start? The Club is a total shambles and ALL the players are third-rate and lazy. There was a brief glimmer of hope that the new ‘owners’ might change things, but it’s now obvious it’s just more of the same. They should have sacked TH in the summer, but instead they gave him another few hundred million to spend on more utter dross for crazy money on ludicrous contracts.
Our next three fixtures are Newcastle at home then Liverpool and Arsenal away, so that’s 3 guaranteed losses and probably 3 absolute humpings. And depending on how results go for those few teams below us, we could well be in a relegation scrap in 2 weeks time
They've spent a billion quid on a squad that is so appalling that will (thoroughly deservedly) be fighting relegation. Amorim is just the next sacrificial lamb. Rinse and repeat
Really enjoyed the Boxing Day football.
City v Everton
Newcastle v Villa
Wolves v Man U
Liverpool v Leicester
Got relegated to the 2nd TV for the last games.
Amazon do some really good coverage TBF.
It's enlightening to have only one UTD fan on this site, last night I was out with dozens of them. None of them could name a single street in Manchester. Their faux distress makes me chortle.
Not even Coronation Street?!
To be fair I can only remember a hand ful of street names in Nottingham. I may use Upper and Lower to achieve two of them, along with the road I lived on and where Des Walker lived in the 80s.
I’ve had a couple of people ask if I fancy tickets for the Newcastle game on Monday as they’ve suddenly found more pressing things to be doing.
Erm… no thanks. Even at way below face value. And Sir Jim now wants everyone to pay a minimum of 70 quid a pop to watch this shite. I think that when it’s season ticket renewal time (and the planted rumours that we’re about to sign Mbappe start circulating) he’s going to have far few takers
Erm… no thanks. Even at way below face value
Two of my mates in Tod have season tickets and they don’t even bother turning up any more. I wouldn’t either.
I suppose it’s a perfect example of the hubris of billionaires like Ratcliffe. It’s almost like running a football club is nothing like a petrochemical business.
I was worried that the new Utd manager might bring a change of fortune.
Fortunately Utd have bought him down to their level.
In other news Rooney might be free soon, now Plymouth have hit rock bottom after he lost 4-0 to a team managed by Frank Lampard.