While that VAR decision was wrong – has a ref ever actually kept their original decision when VAR says can you take a look at this?
I've only seen it once, the ref stuck with his decision to not award West Ham a penalty despite VAR referring him to the monitor. That was a European game though, I've never heard of it happening in the PL.
It was hardly clear and obvious was it, and why not look at Ings handball? Wonder if the ref was influenced by the fact it was Michael Oliver as the VAR?
Everyone's allowed a little fun at Eriks expense.. even the VAR surely 🙂
Gone. VARs fault. Grrr.
Ruud interim before Southgate gets it. Hopefully.
Line up the next mug. We need someone who can keep us up

I can't imagine Utd fans would be happy with the Southgate style - defend, defend, defend.
Maybe attack. If the sun is in the right spot in the sky & Binners has eaten the correct amount of his Gregg's sausage roll.
The continuing pantomime at Old Trafford is a constant source of amusement. Long may it continue !
Southgate would at least give me some hope that this wonderful Man U era will continue 🙂
It’s going to be Southgate, isn’t it? The owners have been trolling us for years now, so why not?
And to think that when they appointed Maureen with his bus-parking, we didn’t think it could get any worse. What halcyon days they seem like now
An absolute clown show!
They should have sacked him 10 days ago and appointed Tuchel, but like most other things at Old Trafford recently they managed to miss the target.
I'm not sure it really matters who they appoint.
Surprised he lasted this long 😉
Ruud interim before Southgate gets it. Hopefully.
I can’t imagine Utd fans would be happy with the Southgate style – defend, defend, defend.
Exactly that – it would mean an entire team rebuild to fit with Southgate's preferred style.
I’m not sure it really matters who they appoint.
That pretty much sums it up. They’ll inherit a squad of ludicrously overpayed donkeys who play like they’ve never met each other, all TH’s backroom staff (as everyone else was sacked) and the same ownership that got us into this sorry mess in the first place
I can’t see why anyone would want the job, apart from for the lucrative payout when they’re sacked
Southgate might be a good call.
I don't rate him as a tactician but he can create a good atmosphere in a team, which Man Utd seem to need right now.
They also have a few England Internationals, so he might go down well.
That pretty much sums it up. They’ll inherit a squad of ludicrously overpayed donkeys who play like they’ve never met each other
You've been saying this for a decade now and it's not the same donkeys as it was 10 years ago. Each manager has brought in a full squad of players of their own. But somehow it's the directors/owners fault ?
I’m not too sure the managers before TH had much say in the transfer dealings. That always seemed to be decided in the boardroom, apparently by picking names out of a hat. Thus leading to a decade of recruitment which could be referred to, if you were being generous, as an absolute ****ing joke.
Literally billions spent on Pogba, Sanchez, Ronaldo, Sancho, Van de Beek, now Antony. The list goes on and on. All on contracts that seemed to involve the players agent thinking of a number, then tripling it
That list above though we're all very very good players. Even if it wasn't the managers choice they've signed a lot of very expensive and talented players. (And some questionable ones I admit)
I fine it hard to believe that any club has a bloke turn up for training on a Mon morning and the manager thinks "wtf is he doing here" they must get asked about potential signings surely
Mourhino has always been a fantasist who blames everyone else for his failures, is there a dressing room he didn't lose the support of?
That’s as maybe, but Is anyone seriously suggesting that the transfer dealings of Manchester United have been anything else other than completely farcical for the last ten years?
Only after the fact.
Look at some of those, they were top top players before Utd got them. Think even Sancho, Mount, etc. everyone wanted them.
I think we forget that virtually all of their success in their entire history has been under just two managers. What we're seeing is regression to the mean.
Ineos are massively culpable here. Why let ETH buy even more of his ex players after a summer in which they were looking for a new manager? Laughable really. They were actually decent yesterday, bar the finishing. I guess they see even qualifying for the Champions League next season slipping away.
Rubén Sellés is not available.
Dave Brailsford is wearing the Emperor's New Clothes - I think he got lucky with the timing with BC - did some ethically dodgy stuff with Sky & now Jim thinks he an apply his expertise to football.
Good luck with that.
Dave Braisford is the new Clive Woodward - really exceptional talent coming through the ranks and some good man management elevated their successes to such an extent that they start to believe they can work in other sports...
The plastic magnate seems to have a reverse midas touch when he's not burning the planet to line his coffers.... Just look at the shite cars.... He must love the cybertruck for being even more crap than his Grenadiers...
Lovely club. Probably also sulking from the hiding Barca gave them at the weekend.
Rodri deserves it. Vini Jr's problem is that he did have a good season but had to share the limelight with Bellingham and others at RM. He also did not win an international trophy with this country.
The suggestion that Carvajal should have got it by RM is total nonsense.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/ckgr1nem1gwo
Rodri has been magnificent for a couple of years, and well deserved it.
RM's hissy fit is pathetic and embarrassing, I am not sure why the press are being so gentle to them. I can only imagine the back pages, derision and scorn if City had done the same, in fact if City had done that I bet EUFA would have charged them with bringing the game into disrespect.
Rodri totally deserves it - City even with all the players they have & the money are not as good without him in the team.
The only thing is he's not a glamour player - he's not topped the scoring charts he doesn't make fancy moves & run past 3 players.
RM’s open letter with their supposed justification could have been written by a toddler who’s just thrown all his toys out of the pram
I did love the bit about them being ‘the greatest club in the world, as recognised by everyone in the footballing world’
Actually, I’d say after the embarrassment of last nights hissy fit ‘everyone in the footballing world’ thinks you’re just a bunch of childish, petulant twunts
Rodri has been awesome for the last few seasons and thoroughly deserves the award
It's simple really, Citeh are probably the best team in the world at their best performance level. Without Rodri they are simply not as good.
RM can still reach very close to their best level without Vini whinge-bag.
I did love the bit about them being ‘the greatest club in the world, as recognised by everyone in the footballing world’
They're clearly still magnificently salty about the El Classico result, and this has pushed them right off the edge.
Evil dictator's Franco's club. It laid the foundations for its European success by being state funded. Reeks of entitlement.
That said the stadium is magnificent.
"The fact that Vini Jr wasn't awarded the title of best player in the world at the Ballon d'Or is yet another way to try to penalise the Brazilian for his outspoken stance on racial issues, both on and off the field," wrote Douglas Ceconello, a journalist for Brazilian sports website Globo Esporte.
Nice to see the Brazilians aren't overreacting.
Also regarding Utd - pretty sure the new lot are just as bad as the Glazers - good business sense - sack 250 staff to save £4million a year (including removing a legends admittedly ridiculous £2 million/year ambassador salary) to sack the manager you have just given a contract extension to that costs your £15 million.
Aren't billionaires great.
You would have thought the person calling for a players strike would be more likely to be politically fixed to not win.
It doesn't surprise me they have played the racism card (Vini jr himself hinted at it with his "they're not ready" post), but it is a stupid and shameful thing to claim. There is a serious problem with racism and Vini jr has suffered a lot, but claiming that Rodri's win was about racism damages the cause, claiming racism for this will put doubt in peoples minds when genuine racism needs to be fought.
And some Real Madrid fans were happy enough to dish out some racist abuse to Lamine Yamal at the weekend.
