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Hi all,

I’m refurbing my ground floor bathroom and putting in a level access shower. The floor is a basic slab/foam insulation/screed construction and I’ve dug out the necessary existing screed to position the Impey Aquagrade screed former which I’ll be using to help create the correct falls to drain. I want to get this done over the Christmas break.

I’ve not done any screeding before. For this purpose the instructions say it’s a dryish 4:1 sand/cement mix but I’m a bit bewildered by the number of different types of cement available. Can anyone offer any recommendations of which materials to get from e.g. Wickes?

Also appreciate any tips/ general things to look out for when doing the job.

cheers!


 
Posted : 19/12/2017 12:20 pm
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Some info here http://www.screedscientist.com/floor-screeding/

I would have thought that a CEM I or CEM II would be fine (you'll probably have to look in the small print to see that on the bag though)

[I am not a screeder...]


 
Posted : 19/12/2017 12:31 pm
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Just a standard opc will be fine.
Ordinary Portland cement.
And you'll be mixing it with washed sand or sharp sand, both the same, do not use ballast.


 
Posted : 19/12/2017 12:47 pm
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Thanks both, so I don’t need any reinforcement fibres or additives etc in the screed? Would either be beneficial at all?

Can I use an additive to make it harden/dry faster?


 
Posted : 19/12/2017 3:12 pm
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Most of the cement sold in DIY stores will be a CEM II blend - which will be lower strength (32,5 or maybe 42,5), but is likely to make a more workable mix (due to what's in the CEM II blend - usually cement plus a proportion of either fine limestone, PFA or GGBS). CEM I is getting increasingly difficult to buy - you might be able to get some in your local builder's merchant - it is likely to be higher strength (52,5) and is what used to be called OPC.


 
Posted : 19/12/2017 4:53 pm
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Get some friends to mix and wheel the barrows


 
Posted : 19/12/2017 5:10 pm
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All these years ive worked with cement ive never looked to see if its cem 1 or 2, I just use mostly rugby, castle, blue circle even quinn but always from paper bags easy to half a bag no waste with a belle mixer
I would think if you have never layed a screed before getting it mixed properly will be more of a problem as a drier mix will stick to the back of the mixer, too wet and your run will slump level
Use either a wood or polyurethane float and straight edge, make sure its compacted


 
Posted : 19/12/2017 5:35 pm
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If you have a lot to do you can also buy ready mixed floor screed


 
Posted : 19/12/2017 5:50 pm
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I recently screed 15m2 of utility room/ WC using Arditex NA (powder and latex mix). Recommended by a couple of builder mates. Brilliant stuff. Easy to mix and levels out nicely with a trowel and spiked roller. Also sticks to anything below - no need to prep/seal beforehand.

Will be laying the laminate and vinyl this weekend.


 
Posted : 19/12/2017 5:51 pm
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Well i must be bored tonight but just checked what cement i use actually is
Rugby is cem1 42.5
Castle cem2 32.5
Blue circle too dear for me but guessing paper bag cem1 mastercrete cem 2
All goes hard but i do prefer the rugby
Back to the fitba now


 
Posted : 19/12/2017 9:18 pm
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I recently screed 15m2 of utility room/ WC using Arditex NA (powder and latex mix). Recommended by a couple of builder mates. Brilliant stuff. Easy to mix and levels out nicely with a trowel and spiked roller. Also sticks to anything below - no need to prep/seal beforehand.

Will be laying the laminate and vinyl this weekend.

Cheers, but I think that's more of a self levelling stuff?

At this point I need to fill in a shallow pit and also I don't actually want it to self level as I'm forming falls to drain for a shower.

This Arditex stuff may be good for later on when I lay electric UFH and use liquid screed to encapsulate it and form the top surface to tile on?


 
Posted : 19/12/2017 10:10 pm