[Closed] Fiona Bruce vs Duke of Edinburgh

Loved this part:

FB: Would you consider yourself a Green?
DoE: No.
FB: Why wouldn't you think so?
DoE: Because there's a difference between having concern for the conservation of wildlife, and.... a bunnyhugger.

classic D of E !!

He's a top man.

He's a bigoted old bastard from a bygone generation.

Get off the fence DD and tell us what you really feel about him!

He's a bigoted old bastard

Old I'll give you, and as for bigoted? Probably.

But a bastard? One thing you cannot accuse His Royal Highness The Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, Earl of Merioneth, Baron Greenwich, Royal Knight of the Most Noble Order of the Garter, Knight of the Most Ancient and Most Noble Order of the Thistle, Grand Master and First and Principal Knight Grand Cross of the Order of the British Empire, Member of the Order of Merit, Companion of the Order of Australia, Extra Companion of the Queen's Service Order, Royal Chief of the Order of Logohu, Canadian Forces Decoration, Lord of Her Majesty's Most Honourable Privy Council, Privy Councillor of the Queen's Privy Council for Canada, Personal Aide-de-Camp to Her Majesty of being is a bastard!

He has opinions and isn't too concerned about how he explains himself, quite refreshing really. I think some of his views are really quite moderate compared to some of his generation.

He's just honest. A crap bike isn't unusual, it's crap. Use the same logic here:

1966
The Duke famously proclaimed: "British women can't cook".
1969
The Duke said to Tom Jones after his Royal Variety Performance: "What do you gargle with, pebbles?".
1976
On a tour of Canada: "We don't come here for our health. We can think of other ways of enjoying ourselves."
1981
During the recession he mused: “Everybody was saying we must have more leisure. Now they are complaining they are unemployed."
1984
When accepting a figurine from a woman during a visit to Kenya he asked: "You are a woman aren't you?"
1986
He told a World Wildlife Fund meeting that "if it has got four legs and it is not a chair, if it has got two wings and flies but is not an aeroplane and if it swims and it is not a submarine, the Cantonese will eat it."
1993
To a British tourist in Hungary in he quipped: "You can't have been here that long — you haven't got a pot belly."
1994
"Aren't most of you descended from pirates?", he asked an islander in the Cayman Islands.
1995
He asked a Scottish driving instructor in Oban: "How do you keep the natives off the booze long enough to pass the test?"
1996
Following the Dunblane massacre, he questioned the need for a firearms ban: "If a cricketer, for instance, suddenly decided to go into a school and batter a lot of people to death with a cricket bat, which he could do very easily, I mean, are you going to ban cricket bats?"
1998
The Duke asked a British student who had been trekking in Papua New Guinea: "You managed not to get eaten then?"
1999
In Cardiff he told children from the British Deaf Association, who were standing by a Caribbean steel band: "If you're near that music it's no wonder you're deaf".
2001
To Elton John: "Oh it's you that wons that ghastly car is it? We often see it when driving to Windsor Castle."
2002
While touring a factory near Edinburgh he said a fuse box was so crude it "looked as though it had been put in by an Indian".
2002
To Australian Aborigines during a visit to Australia with the Queen he asked: "Do you still throw spears at each other?"
2009
Said to black dance troupe Diversity at the Royal Variety Performance: "Are you all one family?"
2010
On asking a female Sea Cadet what she did for a living, and being told that she worked in a nightclub (as a barmaid), the Duke asked “Is it a strip club?” Observing her surprise he dismissed the suggestion saying that it was “probably too cold for that anyway”.
2010
At a prize-giving ceremony for the Duke of Edinburgh Awards a girl told him that she'd been to Romania to help in an orphanage. He replied: "Oh yes, there's a lot of orphanges in Romania - they must breed them".
"If it doesn't fart or eat hay then she isn't interested"
- speaking about his daughter, Princess Anne.
"Can you tell the difference between them?"
- The Duke's question after President Barack Obama said he met with the leaders of the UK, China and Russia.
"The problem with London is the tourists. They cause the congestion. If we could just stop the tourism, we could stop the congestion."
- on London traffic.
"Well, you'll never fly in it, you're too fat to be an astronaut."
- to a 13-year-old whilst visiting a space shuttle.
" I would love to go to Russia very much - although the bastards murdered half my family"
- when asked if he would like to visit the Societ Union.
“You look like you’re ready for bed!”
- To the President of Nigeria, dressed in traditional robes.

he is honest but his honesty shows him to be a bit out of touch with reality, sexist. often racist [ or culturally insensitive] and not overly compassionate to the world or his subjects. I dont see much to admire tbh. Complaining to lockerbie victims about the flood damage at Windsor castle on a compassionate tour for example or going on about leisure time in relation to unemployed folk is just crass and insensitive IMHO.
Folk who like him probably miss the 70's and Jim Davidson.

But a bastard? blah blah blah

I suspect you actually knew all that by heart. Ok, not a bastard (in the literal sense) but a **** instead.

There are some gems of wisdom hidden in there actually. The cricket bat one is pretty sound logic.

He's a bigoted old bastard from a bygone generation

Yawn. Change the record.

Yawn. Change the record.

No...as long as people continue to label him some kind of legend (bell-end more likely), I'll continue to have my pojnt of view too. What's wrong? Can't handle someone disagreeing with you? Eh? Hmm? What the bejeesus are you doing on STW then?

I likes him. I likes the fact that some of OUR money goes into his pocket. 😀

not overly compassionate to the world or his subjects

Are we technically his subjects? Not impressed if so, but always assumed he was actually irrelevant.

Ninety year old man in 'not in touch with society today' shocker.

I likes him. I likes the fact that some of OUR money goes into his pocket.

I'm thankful that far more of my money goes into the pockets of those far more deserving...like some of those the bigoted old langer disparages when he opens his filthy mouth (jesus, seen his teeth? Ewww) before engaging what's left of his brain.

Seems pretty moderate for most 80 and 90 years old, I've spoken to.

As for the Chinese eating anything that breathes, have you been to China? As he definately has a good point about that.

Irish chap in not-liking-Royals shocker.

He might be old skool but the stuff he comes out with is bloody funny. And I think he knows it.

His comment about Princess Anne is priceless!

Irish chap in not-liking-Royals shocker.

nickf in massive generalisation shocker!

From Yohann Hari's latest article

Alfredo Stroessner was one of the most vicious dictators of the 20th-century. He seized power in Paraguay in a coup d'état, and set about kidnapping and torturing anybody who objected, ending up facing charges of genocide from the UN. At the height of the terror, Philip visited the country – paid for by your taxes – and told the beaming tyrant: "It's a pleasant change to be in a country that isn't ruled by its people."

Ha Ha Ha, what a wit, what a legend 🙄

You may as well be general about stuff you think is true, otherwise we'd be here all day picking out the nuances!

I like him, he is straight forward, talks before he thinks and that sometimes upsets people. I don't agree with all his views but reading through that list a lot of the things he says are not as stupid as they first seem.

He is 90 though and there are a whole lot of people of that age out there who say a whole lot worse things than he does.

Shame he doesn't get asked more interesting questions, like:

"Are you happy with the outcome of bullying your eldest son into a school that he found horrifying and subsequently forcing him into a marriage that he didn't want?"

"Why do you suppose your priveleges, got from an accident of birth, are deemed acceptable today?"

and so on...

Should've asked him 'If you think fox hunting with hounds is ok, is getting dogs to fight in a pit also acceptable? After all, the fox is hunted down 'til exhaustion, then ripped apart by a pack of dogs totally unable to defend itself, but at least pit-bull terriers go one-on-one...'

Probbly get some crap answer about 'tradition' or some other equally nonsensical guff....

Elfinsafety - Member
Should've asked him 'If you think fox hunting with hounds is ok, is getting dogs to fight in a pit also acceptable? After all, the fox is hunted down 'til exhaustion, then ripped apart by a pack of dogs totally unable to defend itself, but at least pit-bull terriers go one-on-one...'

Probbly get some crap answer about 'tradition' or some other equally nonsensical guff....

Oh dear...

🙄

Why 'oh dear'? Hmm? Go on. Why 'oh dear'?

Elfinsafety - Member
Why 'oh dear'? Hmm? Go on. Why 'oh dear'?

Nah, I can't be arsed.. not today.

Being 90 isn't an excuse for the crap he spouts, he's only been 90 for a matter of hours.

And with the money we gift to the Royals it'd be good if they paid their cleaners the London Living Wage.

Nah, I can't be arsed.. not today.

More like you've got no argument. So shut up then! 😀

He's a bigoted old bastard from a bygone generation.

Sadly I fear this is true. And for precisely those reasons I think he's a national treasure.

Elfinsafety - Member
Why 'oh dear'? Hmm? Go on. Why 'oh dear'?

Because, silly, foxes spontaneously combust at the slightest touch of a foxhound's jaws and leave nothing but candy floss and glitter behind. Leave them unkilled and they'll give face aids to your children. In the face.

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Nah, I can't be arsed.. not today.

More like you've got no argument. So shut up then!

No Fred, Not at all, Its just, we all know that if I said I'd been to Tenneriffe, then you'd say you'd been to Eleveneriffe.

I guess you now nothing ( first hand) of fox hunting,or what actually goes on, or how many Foxes ever actually get caught.. You know aswell far more get caught and killed on the roads, but hey,

Like I say, another day.

i reckon he is a good bloke deep down.
speaks his mind, nothing wrong with that............ 8)

I guess you now nothing ( first hand) of fox hunting,or what actually goes on, or how many Foxes ever actually get caught.. You know aswell far more get caught and killed on the roads, but hey,

You have to go fox hunting to know it's bad? Do you have to shoot a cat with a crossbow to know that's bad?

He's very very amusing. You can go on about him being bigotted. I don't think he is. He's just taking the piss because he can. Who's going to pull him up on it? You? But fairplay, the funniest comment of all those above is abou his own daughter. And I'm sure he didn't mean it to be offensive, just funny.

Jeez, lighten up a bit

[url= http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/celebrity/philip-to-say-%27mick%27-no-more-than-eight-times-201105173824/ ]This could actually be true[/url]

He can say what he wants when he pays for himself.

No Fred, Not at all, Its just, we all know that if I said I'd been to Tenneriffe, then you'd say you'd been to Eleveneriffe

What an utterly pathetic response. Is that really the best you can do?

If you're gonna say 'oh dear' in response to something someone's said, thus implying you have a problem with that onion then at least back yourself up with a proper argument.

Otherwise, please be quite. Thanks.

We're gonna miss him when he's gone. When was the last time anything said by Prince Charles, or any of the other Royals for that matter, could with the help of some creative suggestion, be in anyway interpreted as sexist, racist, or homophobic ?

PMSL @ [i]"Do you still throw spears at each other?"[/i] btw.

Ay! Ay! Calm down!

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Its nearly five on a friday, chaps. In other words:[b] BEER O'CLOCK.WOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO[/b]

We're gonna miss him when he's gone

not me, other than me keeping him and his inbred clan in food and shelter he means **** all to me.

And that spear chucker remark is just one example of retarded racism that gets laughed off because he 'speaks his mind' , if he made a statement like that in most workplaces he'd be sacked and rightly so, and if he made it in most pubs he'd be picking his teeth up off the floor.

His teeth...eww, don't remind me. Dirty old bastard.

I think he's probably one of the best representatives the English could have. He's got the balls to say what most think.

that spear chucker remark is just one example of retarded racism that gets laughed off because he 'speaks his mind'

In what way is it "racist" ? ...... I would be very interested in knowing that. Aborigines did indeed 'throw spears' at each other including during initiation rites, it is based on fact.

It makes me laugh because royal events are suppose to be mega serious and boringly staid occasions, where correct etiquette, mind-numbing politeness, and completely pointless small talk is expected. Prince Philip actually asked the question to a highly successful Aboriginal businessman - he was clearly taking the piss. I like pisstaking.

Really - most people think its ok to be openly racist and have no qualms about showing their ignorance to a world wide audience?

English says the Spanish Gogledd - TROLL

Not trying to justify it, but we only get to hear extracts from conversations without any context. Plus, Clarkson is excused for similar comments. In fact, Clarkson gets paid for similar comments, that's worse.

he was clearly taking the piss

I'm sure thats the excuse Bernard Manning used.

Yep, I have a different point of view and therefore am a troll. 🙄
I have no royal family and consider the DofE to be a representative of england and all things English, even though he's a Greek.

Not Manningesque, more Jimmy Carr.

😀

I pointed out you were welsh and called him English. I suspect it was a clever underhand dig and actually wish I had not outed it/you Sorry.

You've lost me, Junky... 😕

I'm sure thats the excuse Bernard Manning used.

I asked you : [i]"In what way is it "racist" ?[/i] it was [i][b]so[/b][/i] obvious that you wouldn't answer the question.

Go on.......explain to me why it was "racist". Is it because Aborigines have dark skin ? If he had said to a successful Danish businessman "do you still rape and pillage" would that have been "racist" too ?

The truth I suspect, is that you have no idea why it's "racist", you just [i]feel[/i] that it ought to be racist.

And Prince Philip gets a [i]double[/i] laugh from me for also winding-up the hypersensitive PC Brigade into ranting about something which they don't actually know what they're ranting about - they just feel they ought to be ranting 😀

Go on.......explain to me why it was "racist". Is it because Aborigines have dark skin ? If he had said to a successful Danish businessman "do you still rape and pillage" would that have been "racist" too ?

The Danish business would possibly be able to argue his point on an equal footing whereas the spear throwing Aborigine would be denied the opportunity

😕 Why would an Aboriginal businessman be less able to argue his point than a Danish businessman ? ............what are you - racist or something ?

Yes ernie, I'm being racist.

Just explain why an Aboriginal businessman would be [i]"less able to argue his point"[/i] than a Danish businessman, and leave out the smartarse retorts. Cause it's seriously worrying if you believe that.

The answer not good enough for you? Think about it ernie, I've got a shaved head (Nº1 crop), tattoos, and a staffy. Got to mean something, no?

The answer not good enough for you?

You haven't answered the question concerning why an Aboriginal businessman would be "less able to argue his point" than a Danish businessman, so no, don't expect me to be satisfied with your "answer".

Although I suspect that you now regret making the comment and would rather forget it. Just as well you're not in the media's sights eh ?

Yes, you have the reason, as always ernie, put this one down as a win.

Yep, a definite "win".........you make a halfwit comment which you can't even justify. I can't see how that could represent more of a defeat for you.

Yes ernie, racism being in the intent of the speaker or actor and how it is received or perceived by the receiver. That means that junky can make a (racist) Gogledd comment and depending on how he intended it or how I received will or won't make it racist. This is why the honky Eminem can use the N-word so freely without being racist. Comprendes?

Yeah ok mate, I think I'll leave it at that......you're obviously not going to answer the question concerning why Aboriginal businessmen according to you are 'less able to argue their point'

Plus you've had to resort to 'attack by tags' 😀

....done and dusted mate 8)

Not my tag. Learn to read and understand racism and anger and all their facets. But I do actually agree with the tag, you are boring.

You two love each other.

The sooner you admit it the better...far too much sexual tension in this thread.

Yeah, so ner! 😛

Soz; bin swimming. What's bin going on?

I like the way that the usual suspects are happy having a go at him, and not mentioning the fact that he - and a lot of other out dated, out of touch, bigoted men of his generation - fought with great courage to ensure that you have the right and freedom to criticise him.

He is a bit out of touch, but he is honest, pragmatic and served this country as best he can for 70 years or more. Not sure if a few more like him in public life wouldn't be a good thing.

ernie tags elfin and the fight begins... 🙄

Fight? Who's having a fight?

Leave it out e's not worth it!

What?

I don't know. I really don't know.

😆

I'm not sure whether it's better to be boring or bitter. So, because I think he's a bigoted old ****, I'm bitter? I'm not bitter FFS, I'm just a forum version of a pint of Murphys. Actually, I'm not really. Oh bollocks, I'm not sure, but I'm not bitter. 🙂

Does anyone know why he didn't become king, but Kate...um...Windsor/Wales might become queen one day?

Because of sexism, innit?

C'mon youuuuuu Yeovil!!!

[i]"You know aswell far more get caught and killed on the roads, but hey,"[/i]

Lots of children get killed on roads. Nobody minds if I hunt a couple on Saturdays and feed them to my dogs do they ?

Heh! 😆

I rather enjoyed this interchange

DofE

I was having to do my duty as a professional Naval Officer. You've probably never had a profession so you don't know what that means.

I flatter myself that i have one now

DofE

I see - right