[Closed] Farage to stay as Dear Leader

Somewhat predictable. I thought he'd at least take the summer off and stand as leader again in September.

Is he still going on his hollybobs then? A weekend in Blackpool, at least?

[i]Nigel Farage in his autobiography: "It is frankly just not credible for me to continue to lead the party without a Westminster seat."[/i]

There we have it UKIP have an incredible leader.

Or is it uncredible?

Excellent

Binners, all the cool kids are livin' it large in Ibiza, innit?

Smart casual dress code, obviously. Jumper draped over shoulders, etc.

A bit of a clown for saying that but what else can he do - I presume no one stepped up?

Who else could lead UKIP?

Who else could lead UKIP?

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Carswell, their sole MP. Not sure how well he eats bacon sarnies or drinks pints of beer though.

Smart bit of manoeuvring on his part.
He kept his word, and has now got 100% backing of the party, without having to clear his desk.

binners - Member

Who else could lead UKIP?

Yo do mean the one on the right?

A weekend in [b]Black[/b]pool, at least?

I doubt it, now Whitley bay possibly...

I'd send him to S****horpe.

what else can he do

[i]Actually[/i] resign?

Smart bit of manoeuvring on his part.
He kept his word, and has now got 100% backing of the party, without having to clear his desk.

If he resigned and then was reelected, he'd have done what he said he'd done.

Didn't Stalin do the same?

3.5 million backed him and his party, now his party back him 100%.

Some would love to be in his position.

Who else could lead UKIP?

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I'd assumed he'd resign and then become chairman or something equally pointless, but this is just headline grabbing, which skip seem to be very good at!

Yo do mean the one on the right?

This man does a great accent as well and true to form he is an ex tory

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Who else could lead UKIP?

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Nigel Farage in his autobiography: "It is frankly just not credible for me to continue to lead the party without a Westminster seat."

To be fair he just needs more time. He's had 5 attempts at becoming a UKIP MP eventually his luck has [i]got[/i] to change and he will find a constituency where the electorate wants UKIP to represent them. How unlucky can one guy be ffs ? I see him getting lucky at a by-election soon.

As for him going back on his word he made it clear when he announced his resignation 4 days ago that he intended standing for the leadership again in September :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32633719

[b][i]"But he said he would consider running for the job again when the leadership contest is held in September."[/i][/b]

So he was only ever going to give up the job for about 12 or so weeks.

Farage is a slippery untrustworthy public school-educated former banker who deliberately misleads people, no wonder so many people find the laughing beer-drinker a refreshing change and so different to other politicians.

[quote=ernie_lynch ]So he was only ever going to give up the job for about 12 or so weeks.

Well quite. The party has just told him to get on with being leader instead of having an extended holiday.

miketually - Member

If he resigned and then was reelected, he'd have done what he said he'd done.

Didn't Stalin do the same?

I think you might be thinking of John Major :

[url= http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/july/4/newsid_2493000/2493037.stm ]1995: Major wins Conservative leadership[/url]

His party rejected his resignation? He's obviously lost control of them and should resign.

Think on.

Ommmmmmm....

Farage to stay as Dear Leader

Excellent! More entertainment. I like!

Let's see if Labour can top that with a good entertainer as well.

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The blood letting could be starting, the party secretary has resigned, one of the MEPs who was the campaign manager has laid into Nige, apparently with backing from Carswell, and it's all generally a bit of a mess.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-32726181

Schadenfreude much?

All part of maturing as a political party !

UKIP is over 20 years old. It's only 5 years younger than the Liberal Democrat Party.

The BNP tore itself apart with personality based infighting, the NF tore itself apart with personality based infighting, UKIP is now doing the same.

Don't blame them for wanting to keep him - and he seems to enjoy the role 🙂

Don't blame them for wanting to keep him

I think this now very public row is because "them" don't want to keep him. Or at least some of them don't.

ernie_lynch - Member
UKIP is over 20 years old. It's only 5 years younger than the Liberal Democrat Party.

So UKIP is 15 yr old which is considered a rather young party by comparison to many others. Even Lib Dem was a creation through the merger of two parties ... It just normal political party activity there. Better to sort themselves right then go to the poll to be annihilated.

Look at Lib Dem within a short period of 20 years they are reduced to a party of insignificant even when they look so "united" in their appearance ... they are gone.

What UKIP needs is to do the filtering out amongst themselves.

ernie_lynch - Member
UKIP is over 20 years old.

So UKIP is 15 yr old

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What UKIP needs is to do the filtering out amongst themselves.

In case you hadn't noticed UKIP were sacking their candidates throughout the election campaign, right up until the last week, so there was plenty of "filtering out amongst themselves".

Unless you mean something completely different, I tend to struggle to understand what you mean.

ernie_lynch - Member

ernie_lynch - Member
UKIP is over 20 years old.

So UKIP is 15 yr old

ernie_lynch - Member

What UKIP needs is to do the filtering out amongst themselves.

In case you hadn't noticed UKIP were sacking their candidates throughout the election campaign, right up until the last week, so there was plenty of "filtering out amongst themselves".

Unless you mean something completely different, I tend to struggle to understand what you mean.

They need to be more selective of their members or candidates that run the party as they too eager to vent their frustration too quickly too soon.

They really need a good PR spin machine like those in Labour/SNP/Tories to help out.

In the long run all political parties will have very similar appeal if they want to be in power ....

I think this now very public row is because "them" don't want to keep him. Or at least some of them don't.

Yeah some, the exec committee do apparently.

They need to be more selective of their members or candidates that run the party ...

Well no one would disagree with that, but it's easier said than done when you're dealing with a bunch of fruitcakes loonies and closet racists.

If they start clamping down too much there won't be anyone left in the party.

He kept his word, and has now got 100% backing of the party, without having to clear his desk.

He said he would stand down, and he didn't. How is that keeping his word?

(I assume you're aware of the difference between "would you like me to resign?" and "I'm leaving").

ransos - Member

He kept his word, and has now got 100% backing of the party, without having to clear his desk.

He said he would stand down, and he didn't. How is that keeping his word?

(I assume you're aware of the difference between "would you like me to resign?" and "I'm leaving").

Media is spinning crazy for this because too many take the bait on Farage staying or leaving. They simply cannot accept his way of running things in his party and his personality.

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I think what they can't accept is his barefaced lie.

He said he would resign. He didn't say anything about resigning "if they let me".

The geezer is a slippery **** who only stands out because he's even more slippery than most politicians.

A politician, not sticking to his/her word...Nooo gerraway with yer, No politician, of any political party would do that.
They all do exactly as they say they will, all of the time.

Farage resigned, the executive committee refused to accept his resignation, he decided to withdraw it.

Farage resigned, the executive committee refused to accept his resignation

So he didn't resign then 🙄

The best you can say is that he offered his resignation.

But that's not what he said he would do. He didn't say [i]"if I fail to get elected as a UKIP MP I will offer my resignation and see what happens"[/i] he said [i]"I will resign"[/i].

Nigel Farage is a more slippery **** than most politicians. No one expects Ed Miliband or Nick Clegg to change their minds after announcing their resignations, but no one seems very surprised that Farage has. Says it all really.

Without Farage, UKIP was disappear back into obscurity...

ernie_lynch - Member

I think what they can't accept is his barefaced lie.

He said he would resign. He didn't say anything about resigning "if they let me".

The geezer is a slippery **** who only stands out because he's even more slippery than most politicians.

😆 Bloody hell talking about determination but your spin is rather poor I am afraid.

Look at the video clip at Margate when he announced to the media that he would "stand down" then you can spin as much as you like. Ya, try to put as much negative spin as you can on that ...

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footflaps - Member

Without Farage, UKIP was disappear back into obscurity...

Not really a bad thing provided they can get someone who is more sophisticated to replace him. His "in your face" way of saying things is a bit too strong for many but if he could tone it down a little then things will be different. But I like this "in your face" way of saying things because you see the person as s/he is ...

your spin is rather poor I am afraid.

Yes of course. I am deliberately misrepresenting what Nigel Farage said.

[i]The consequences of me failing to secure a seat for myself in the Commons would be significant for me and the party. It is frankly just not credible for me to continue to lead the party without a Westminster seat of my own. What credibility would Ukip have in the Commons if others had to enunciate party policy in Parliament and the party leader was only allowed in as a guest? Am I supposed to brief Ukip policy from the Westminster Arms? No – if I fail to win South Thanet, it is curtains for me. I will have to step down. [/i]

- Neil Farage 15 Mar 2015

I wonder what he really meant ?

OKay, I did overlook the word "over"

I[s]t[/s] is frankly just not credible

Jeremy Hunt Mk2 - BBC today, UKIP's personality cult 🙂

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BigButSlimmerBloke - Member

OKay, I did overlook the word "over"

..and the number "20"

Bloody hell you lot are really anal ... 😆

..as well as the difference between "resign" and "not resign", but you don't just believe political spin, you believe ukip spin which says everything that needs to be said.

I don't believe in politicians.

edit: Oh ya ... doesn't matter if I got Lib Dem existence wrong. They are screwed.

Farage resigned, the executive committee refused to accept his resignation, he decided to withdraw it.

As I've already said, the committee cannot compel him to stay, so he didn't resign. Why are you finding this hard to understand?

Ransos he always said he would stand again for re-election in September. With unanimous backing from the NEC it's clear he'd win again so he stayed.

Ransos he always said he would stand again for re-election in September. With unanimous backing from the NEC it's clear he'd win again so he stayed.

He said he would stand down. He didn't. It's really that simple.

Haven't read the thread, but I'd just like vote cast that he is a c***flap.

I think President Pierre Nkurunziza of Burundi is the man for UKIP leader.

Why, does President Pierre Nkurunziza of Burundi know how to hold a pint and eat a bacon sandwich?

I'm assuming he knows how to grin insanely, the third indispensable requirement, most African leaders seem to.

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It took several retakes to get the bacon eating right btw.

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But Nigel got there in the end.