[Closed] Farage comes to Scotland and gets a lock-in!

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Is that a statue of Rab C Nesbit?

What's sad is that the English used to be strongly against his sort of rubbish too - read up on the Battle of Cable Street. Now Farrage is no Moseley, but where's the popular protests against his views?

What's sad is that the English used to be strongly against his sort of rubbish too - read up on the Battle of Cable Street.

[What's sad is that the English used to be strongly against his sort of rubbish too - read up on the Battle of Cable Street. Now Farrage is no Moseley, but where's the popular protests against his views?]

no need to worry..... most folks are smart enough to realise UKIP's success is a flash in the pan.. ... folks need somewhere to register their protest and the usual crowd the for that the LibDems are in the coalition

Retro83, is that not that one fat elf out of Lord of the Rings?

Why is that statue in front of a pissoire?

EDIT. I thought twice.

farage really is an idiot

Can you imagine what he would do if in a EU referendum that one of the EU beurocrats - say form Belgium- came to Blighty to campaign for the Union - what would he or his supporters do?

I also cannot imagine what goes on in his tiny mind that he leaves his country to campaign as a foreigner for a union only to return home to moan about a union as foreigners tell us what to do. What sort if rational is going on here?
I also cannot believe that he thinks he can help the campaign tbh
If i was the yes campaign I would hire him a bus and some adverts tbh

JY. Are you saying that political intolerance is acceptable?
He would be a good advert for the No Campaign if he was attacked in an aggressive manner all the time. If the Yes Campaign are successful I hope political discussion in Scotland is not carried out with claw hammer in one hand and a megaphone in the other.

If the Yes Campaign are successful I hope political discussion in Scotland is not carried out with claw hammer in one hand and a megaphone in the other.

The way it is now? The Scottish parliament is much more democratic than Westminster - the whole reason Farrage gets any votes (on a tiny turnout) is that most people know Westminster is a total waste of time.

We will still have a successful parliament with a no vote.

The thing I can't get over is is Farage was not welcome why did the crowd make it so difficult for him to leave? If they were keen to see him off to his own "country" I don't think surrounding taxi's twice was the best course of action.

I notice from BBC news interview with Salmond that he agrees with me by saying Farage should not be in Aberdeen because he doesn't know what a Loon and Quine are! You have to love our dear leader. Priceless.

At least the scots had the cahones to have a go. Cameron and Clegg seem to travel unmolested in england.

Northwind, Ive just added you to my Christmas Card list

All of this "you can't say anything about Aberdeen of you don't know what a bawbag is just goes to prove how parochial and small time Aberdeen and the people making the comments are.

JY. Are you saying that political intolerance is acceptable?

Demoncracy! Demoncracry!

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I used to quite like Meerkats.

I also cannot imagine what goes on in his tiny mind that he leaves his country to campaign as a foreigner

Thanks mate! I hope all you Scots are as welcoming to us 'foreigners' who speak (roughly) the same language, were born a couple of hundred miles south of a non existent border, who probably share 99.9999999% of your genetic makeup, who participate in basically the same legislative structure, and have a shared history going back to time immemorial.

Farage is a tool, but he's got every right to campaign within your 'foreign country'.

EDIT: just realised maybe you ain't scottish... 😳

A man went to a pub, talked a lot of drivel. Some other people shouted at him. Police took 3 people away. The man didn't want to talk about it the next day.
Bainbrge come on up every body is welcome.:-)

Bainbrge , you can only come in if you know the meaning of glaikit.
Don't dare make any comment on politics if you don't know the meaning of loon.
These are the words of our Dear Leader

And it turns out that one of the two anti-English, rabid Scotsmen arrested by the police during these events is actually....

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English 🙂

Har. Cheers for that!

As a Scot who has spent a significant part of his time down south, I've received a lot of anti-Acottish comment. Most of it I'd class as "banter", but a fair proportion not so much...

Anyhoo, quite glad Farage has been exposed for what he is. Nasty, nasty politics disguised (for some) behind a gormless grim.

Scotland has more pandas that Conservative MPs and long may it continue...

just to clarify for a few, some of us want independence not because we "hate" anyone not from Scotland, but because we simply want to be in charge of our own affairs. As a trait we seem to tend towards a more socialist point of view, but it's hardly a done deal. Everyone is most welcome and should independence happen, regardless of what happens with currency, the EU or the military, everyone will be as welcome as previously. We haven't just been polite because of the union, it's how we are. like anywhere else, there are assholes here too and if you have had to deal with them, my apologies. In regard to Mr (F)Garage, he can come more often, he does a lot for the campaign for Scottish Independence.

As a Scot who has spent a significant part of his time down south, I've received a lot of anti-Acottish comment. Most of it I'd class as "banter", but a fair proportion not so much...

Exactly. Just look what happens in pretty much any online discussion around Scottish Independence (or pretty much anything Scottish) - there a McGodwin's Law where the conversation inevitably gets around to the usual stereotypes (bad weather, deep fried mars bars etc).

What cs said is the truth

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just to clarify for a few, some of us want independence not because we "hate" anyone not from Scotland, but because we simply want to be in charge of our own affairs.

I'd hope it's most tbh. I know a lot of people want to think it's just "little scotland" or anti-englishness but the bottom line we're stuck with a massively unpopular UK government which we rejected utterly at the general election. 1 MP out of 59, and not for the first time. I think it's perfectly rational to say enough is enough, hardly needs to be a matter of smallmindedness or racism or insularness.

McGodwin's Law - nice!

we're stuck with a massively unpopular UK government which we rejected utterly at the general election. 1 MP out of 59, and not for the first time.

It's splitting hairs - buts it's 12 out of 59. This is a coalition government with 1 Conservative and 11 Liberal Democrat MPs representing Scotland in it.

Aye - 11 wanabees - there will be fewer next time!

we're stuck with a massively unpopular UK government which we rejected utterly at the general election. 1 MP out of 59, and not for the first time.

But it was 39 out of 59 in [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_MPs_for_Scottish_constituencies_2005%E2%80%932010 ]2005.[/url].

And both the prime ministers (although the first one was only born in Scotland). Was that not good enough?

But it was 39 out of 59 in 2005..

And both the prime ministers (although the first one was only born in Scotland). Was that not good enough?

Very true - in 2005 the shires and home counties (smaller land mass, similar populous) had a tiny representation in the labour government of the time. Did that give them a right to demand independent governance? Swings and roundabouts innit.

The first point is that any group of people have a right to campaign democratically for independence if they wish to. Those mps were elected by their constituents to represent their constituency on matters reserved to Westminster. The Scottish people voted for an SNP government twice since 2005 it was well known to all that the SNP were in favour of independence so it seems logical that we are now having this referendum.

The Scottish people voted for an SNP government twice since 2005 it was well known to all that the SNP were in favour of independence so it seems logical that we are now having this referendum.

Despite my points above, that seems to make perfect sense to me. I might not favour an independent Scotland, but the nation has spoken about its desire to at least have their opinion sought. If the electorate will go into this referendum fully informed of the pros and cons and capable of making a sophisticated decision about what will be a massive and lasting change (for better or worse) remains to be seen.

It's splitting hairs - buts it's 12 out of 59. This is a coalition government with 1 Conservative and 11 Liberal Democrat MPs representing Scotland in it.

Liberal Democrat policy on quite a few issues was significantly different to Tory policy before the last general election. The 11 Liberal Democrat MPs representing Scotland were not elected to support Tory government policy, something which Scotland has comprehensively rejected for 35 years.

Only one person who honestly stood as a Tory in Scotland at the last general election won a seat. You have to be particularly dishonest to deny that Scotland has a long history of opposing Tory policies.

Liberal Democrat policy on quite a few issues was significantly different to Tory policy before the last general election. The 11 Liberal Democrat MPs representing Scotland were not elected to support Tory government policy, something which Scotland has comprehensively rejected for 35 years.

Of course we will never know to what extent because we can't run time twice but I'd argue that the Lib Dems have at least muted to very worst of what a conservative government [i]could[/i] have inflicted upon us. I thinking that's the most we could have expected from the minority party in a coalition. I think those 11 lib dems contribute 3 ministers to the government which is better than a slap in the face.

I'd argue that the Lib Dems have at least muted to very worst of what a conservative government could have inflicted upon us

You mean like the "VAT bombshell" ?

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Urge people not to vote Tory because they will increase VAT, urge them to vote LibDem instead.
And then help the Tories to increase VAT.

Well done Clegg, you must be proud.

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There are sensible Nationalist about, however no Yes vote is going to be acheived without the support of the radical anti English sentiment on show in Edinburgh the other day. This is a minority however it is not insignificant.
The Nationalists portray their campaign as positive however I often get a sense of constant victimhood from many independence supporters I know. If we effectively banish the Tories it will be someone else to be the baddie.

I am worried by the amount of people that regard that level of hectoring of political opponents as acceptible. Will Alistair Darling need personal security now?
Salmonds views expressed in the BBC interview on Farage would border on incontemptible if he wasn't such a pompous, smug a**e.

It's a coalition and he is in charge of the minority party so is going to have to be prepared to give from time to time. I'm not saying they have covered themselves in glory but I will say again that without rerunning history we have no idea how much "worse" a solo tory government might have been.

we have no idea how much "worse" a solo tory government might have been.

We have a very good idea how the Tories in government alone would have governed. Like other parties they produced an election manifesto which stated their policies and aims. Plus we have had many previous Tory governments to make comparisons with.

Nothing about this present government suggests that it is any less Tory than previous Tory governments, nor than it is any more "left-wing", in fact all the evidence is that it is more right-wing than previous ones.

The LibDems have simply given the Tories a majority in Parliament, something which the British electorate, especially in Scotland, had denied them. Cameron must be pissing himself at the political acrobatics that Clegg has preformed for the privilege of riding in a ministerial car.

And both the prime ministers (although the first one was only born in Scotland). Was that not good enough?

the radical anti English sentiment

I assume the first is Brown, but who is the second? Blair is an Englishman who represented an English constituency (not that I think his nationality is important).

Blair was born in Edinburgh and went to Fettes school there (kind of Edinburgh's equivalent of Eton) although his family moved from Scotland (Australia then Durham) whilst he was a child.

I have no doubt that the farage incident was unpleasant for him, ,but I didn't see or hear anything that I thought was anti English and certainly no threat to Mr Farage. I believe Mr Darling holds moderate views far from the right wing policies Ukip represent.

the radical anti English sentiment on show in Edinburgh the other day

i'm amazed that a complete falsehood can be reinvented as a statement of fact within such a short period of time.

Blair was born in Edinburgh

In any case, it's not relevant where he was born, only which constituency he represented.