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Hi,
You may remember [url= http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/anyone-know-anything-about-spiders ]this[/url] thread from around a year ago where STW posters identified my houseguest as a S. nobilis or False Widow.
I happily let her live here in our conservatory and it became obvious this spring that the colony had grown somewhat as we saw other similar webs in the rafters of the conservatory. We have never minded as they kill a hell of a lot of flies and seem to keep themselves to themselves.
The thing is, its now becoming a little disturbing. We have a 9 month old son, and my girlfriend found a small one in his pram this morning, and they seem to have become a little more bold and are no longer staying in their hidey holes. This large one was on the move earlier:
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Here is a little baby being watched by his/her mum:
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The question is, how dangerous would these be to a baby? Should we be worried? Is it usual for them to go wandering around the house?
Any advice would be appreciated...
I'm led to believe that a bite from a False Widow is much like a bee sting. For most people (those who are not allergic to the venom), a bit uncomfortable for a while but not life threatening. I suppose you would keep bees/wasps away from your baby so maybe treat False Widows similarly?
Easier said than done though. Are you suggesting I get an exterminator in?
Vacuum cleaner would be my weapon of choice. Better then some bloke with insecticide (arachnicide?)
Well done for letting them stay. They can be quite interesting to watch and as you have found, can be good with keeping other bugs, including spiders, away.
I'm not sure of the weather where you are or how often they have been breeding but often a wondering spider (like the one you have) would be a male looking for a mate. I can't quite see the pedipalps in the photo, which would be a way to sex it, but the body shape suggests a mature male.
Males don't live very long so try and mate when they can. Some species do wonder but not so much [i]Steatoda[/i] which tend to sit by their web. If you have lots of young too, it could be time for the male to try his luck again. There is also a very good chance that the numbers of young you have will diminish as they are cannibalistic and will eat each other.
Most spiders, especially in the UK, don't tend to bite. Only a few can penetrate human skin. This often depends on the size of the spider so most spiderlings probably couldn’t bite even if they were provoked. All spiders have venom, though the strength can vary a great deal. I have read that false widows do have a painful nip, but I've never been bitten. I've never seen some aggressive or attempted to bite either, and I have breed some. If poked or prodded it could bite though.
My advice would be to maybe move the male somewhere else, with a glass jar and some paper. It would be better if he could mate with a different female anyway and would help with any concerns you or your girlfriend has with your son. As long as you release him somewhere quiet and not too cold he will be ok. Keep an eye on the numbers of spiderlings, they tend to move away from each other with time but if you feel the numbers are getting out of had just move some on the same way.
You should be able to enjoy them without worry and my little lad has grown up to respect bugs from a safe distance but get quite a lot from watching them.
Hey,
I was bitten by a False Widow a couple of years back. Even caught the little bugger in a glass afterwards. Not sure what I did to provoke it (apart from generally being scared ****less by them). It bit me on the top of my middle finger.
Over a couple of days my entire hand went red and suffered some swelling. When I took my watch off the redness went up my arm towards my elbow slightly then seemed to disappear after an hour or so.
The bite itself stung a fair bit and left little marks, but the redness/swelling wasn't painful. Worrying at the time, but not painful.
Not sure if that helps you at all?
Thanks for the advice (and the reassuring tale of how much a False Widow bite can hurt). We would like them to stay TBH, and one thing that we hadn't considered was the blindingly obvious fact that a young spider is probably unlikely to be able to break human skin!
We'll try to move the wandering male next time he goes on the move and hopefully that will be enough to reassure us.
One question I do have has been bugging me for a while - do spiders do something to attract flies? It is scary how many flies these spiders catch - the flies go straight for the webs and are immediately caught up. Each web continually has a pile of fly corpses underneath it and usually one or two flies caught up, waiting to be eaten.