Like Botttas backing up Verstappen?
That was a bit of gamesmanship under yellow flag conditions.
Verstappens slowed for no publicly know reason under green flag conditions, and was moving around.
That could have been a very big accident.
Horner is having a moan on race radio already.
Max brake checking / slowing to keep Lewis though (honest gov), while Lewis tries to hustle a driver that’s been told to let him through.
Lewis nudging Max wide at the first restart, then hitting Ocon at the second and a bit of gamesmanship under safety cars.
Neither looks like an angel tonight really do they?
Even Brundle thinks Max's driving was dirty...probably knows more about it than most
Horner is having a moan on race radio already.
I think the weakness of his post race moan compared to usual shows he knows there could be more trouble ahead.
Haha, some race viewers have a sense of humour as Max has been voted driver of the day
I think Verstappen needs to have a think about his race craft/driving standards TBH
Yep, very much this. He's been playing the "I was doing the best I can" line while pushing the envelope all the way.
There's still an incident to be investigated post-race, I think the Race Director is going to have a very busy night.
Max can cause them both to crash and take the championship by dint of having more wins.
Schumacher got disqualified when he tried to decide things with a collision. From the whole year. So there’s that.
What grid start penalty will Max start with at Abu Dhabi for the Hamilton brake test?
Next week's decider will be interesting!
Crowd booing max I hope he gets used to that dirty driver he does not understand what happened with the brake test.
Same as Brazil, it's not just the British fans being jingoistic.
mix of cheers and boos for Hamilton too
(already blocked video - damn, they're quick!)
Ridiculous. 'Giving a space back' by sitting in the middle of the track on the exit of a corner and braking...
Given the state of the track at least we got through the weekend without anything more serious than what happened in the F2 race.
He’s going to claim he went left to let LH round the outside, but unfortunately LH also went left and he then tried to go right and let LH have the left (but LH wasn’t paying attention).
Whether that’s true…
The driver's meeting for the next race is going to be fiery. Hopefully the Netflix cameras will be in there for that one to record it for prosperity.
Haha, some race viewers have a sense of humour as Max has been voted driver of the day
The Dutch vote for him every race in their droves, no-one else really gets a look-in.
Oh man that was too tense
Does anyone know what the turn 27 incident that is being investigated after the race is?
Did everyone else’s audio cut when coulthard asked Verstappen about the incident?!
I just assumed he said some naughty words, there is usually just enough delay from actually being live to allow some cutting to be done.
Does anyone know what the turn 27 incident that is being investigated after the race is?
Pretty sure it’s the farce collision
Max just skulks off the podium...
summoned to the stewards in 40m time.
I actually have a fair bit of respect for Max, but he did choose an odd place to step 3/4 of a car width aside and let Lewis through.
I strongly suspect that the stewards will be looking at Max's telemetry, did he merely lift off and let the aero slow the car, or did he tap the brake?
Unbelievable Jeff.
What a race and I was only listening on R5L.
It was a nasty race, no one came out of todays race looking good, sport lost.
Does anyone know what the turn 27 incident that is being investigated after the race is?
It’s for the collision incident
If Verstappen did brake test him, it’s going to get very spicy.
Horners face wasn’t very optimistic after the race
Hopefully they can get telemetry, if he stamped on the brakes like a petulant child, then surely they have to give him a kicking for brake testing
So from from the onboard - have you ever seen someone drop 5 gears to let someone past. You barely get a lift in normal circumstances.
Would be absolutely astounded if he tapped the brake, everyone knows these things are monitored in minute detail
On the incident when he hit the back of Verstappen: "I don't understand why he hit the brakes quite heavily so I ran into the back of him. It was a bit confusing."
that statement shows great maturity.
Would be absolutely astounded if he tapped the brake, everyone knows these things are monitored in minute detail
Well, verstappen apparently thinks the rules only apply to others, so who knows…
I'm not a big F1 follower, but watching this side by side, I don't see or hear Hamilton accelerate into him, and yet the gap closes very fast at the end. Brake test, or just lifting off completely, not sure, but does seem like MV went backwards fast rather than LH forward.
So from from the onboard – have you ever seen someone drop 5 gears to let someone past. You barely get a lift in normal circumstances.
Because usually the guy is straight past rather than also slowing down.
The whole situation is mental though either way
Looked like he was (excessively?) engine braking rather than pressing the pedal.
From the sound of Max’s engine/downshifts, it doesn’t sound like he’s hit the brakes (engine braking/regen notwithstanding), if I’m honest. My issue is him doing what he did in the middle of the track, whilst moving around.
I actually have a fair bit of respect for Max, but he did choose an odd place to step 3/4 of a car width aside and let Lewis through.
He was trying to manipulate where Hamilton passed so as to get DRS on him to retake the lead. Hamilton didn't come past, he slowed more. Neither of them knew what the other was doing.
I'll bet thats what the stewards find
Let’s not forget that the stewards also appear to be partially to blame as Merc hasn’t been told about the place swap (again, bonkers)
Whichever way you look at it Max slowed down fast very near to the racing line when the normal thing is to pull off to the side and lift gently, making your intentions very clear. He was playing a game and playing it dangerously.
Max is a dirty driver and this time he has massively overstepped the mark.
Nothing will be done though
My issue is him doing what he did in the middle of the track, whilst moving around.
As Hill said, whether its an excuse or the truth, Max will just say he was unsure which side Lewis was going to overtake him on. Watching it several times now, it could be deliberate or it could be a totally confused cluster ****, I can't make my mind up which it is.
I reckon a little of column A, a little of column B.
He was trying to manipulate where Hamilton passed so as to get DRS on him to retake the lead. Hamilton didn’t come past, he slowed more. Neither of them knew what the other was doing.
He was playing silly buggers on a track that’s been proven to be dangerous.
Lift off and coast a bit is the normal way to let other drivers past.
Nothing will be done though
^^That - a perfect season end in F1’s eyes.
