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That’s ridiculous from Max that


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:20 pm
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This getting to be a farce.


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:21 pm
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Gotta give it back surely


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:21 pm
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WTF


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:21 pm
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Sake


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:21 pm
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What a joke!


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:21 pm
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Odds on this race actually finishing?

More controversy and more stewards decisions to come.


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:21 pm
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Max making up his own track it seems


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:22 pm
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utter farce of a "race" now.


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:22 pm
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How will Karen spin that one!


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:22 pm
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Yeah, Max knows he's got nothing to lose. If he takes LH out and neither finish, the advantage is still with him. He knew LH would bail out.


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:24 pm
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Perez certainly not getting the team mate of the year award then


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:24 pm
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Safety car restart to try and avoid that again?


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:24 pm
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This track is a ruddy joke


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:25 pm
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Safety car restart to try and avoid that again?

Hopefully with Max back behind Lewis where he belongs. That overtake was horrendous.


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:25 pm
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This is not safe.


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:26 pm
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Clearly Max gained a lasting advantage but let's see what the stewards think.

This track is dangerous. No doubt about it...


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:26 pm
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This track is a ruddy joke

The sackfuls of money in the FIA bank account probably says otherwise...


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:27 pm
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Safety car restart would make sense, So I expect them to go to a grid for the viewing figures


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:28 pm
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Why are Red Bull being offered 2nd???


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:29 pm
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Ooh, radio conversation getting interesting now!
Offer to reset it to Hamilton > Verstappen > Ocon


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:30 pm
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Why are they even consulting with race control - race controls decision should be final?


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:30 pm
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Massi had forgotten about Ocon


 
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WTF is Massi on about?


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:30 pm
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This conversation with FIA AND RB is embarrassing. Why the * is the race director making them offers?! Just apply the rules you * cowboys.


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:31 pm
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Yeah what on earth.

Farce


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:31 pm
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Standard to hand the position back, but the shit show that is this race didn’t give time for that to be considered

Think this has just blown my mind now.

Alpine FTW!


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:31 pm
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This is no longer a competitive event

Why are red bull being offered the choice of anything? Why do they get to choose?


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:31 pm
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FIA making up rules along the way. Completely absurd.


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:32 pm
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Why not just drop the keys in a pot and assign the places on the draw. Looks embarrassing now.


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:32 pm
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Feel for ocon in this


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:32 pm
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This conversation with FIA AND RB is embarrassing. Why the * is the race director making them offers?! Just apply the rules you * cowboys.

I dunno, that strikes me as a fair midpoint of "sportsmanship" between the teams, fair play and mutual agreement rather than "you will do this/that". Avoids complaints and appeals later if they can say "well, you agreed to it!"

Not sure the rules cover the exact permutations that have been going on here.


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:33 pm
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I wonder whether Alpine have an opinion on this??


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:33 pm
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This is just silly now.

Why not just abandon the race and have a game of Ker-plunk to decide the championship.


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:33 pm
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I hope Russel is ok after that shunt...


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:35 pm
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Anyway - Max should have had this championship tied up long ago. It shouldn’t be on a knife edge with 2 races to go.

He says he’s not bothered about championships, but his mistakes clearly show he is feeling the pressure.


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:36 pm
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I don't think Leclerc did anything wrong there as well, despite the commentators seeming to infer he was at fault.


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:36 pm
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So much to sort out - Max lunge downthe outside - what race control have offered is the equivalent of giving the place back

Then Bottas backing up under safety car then Hamilton backing up as well
The need to sort out the rules so its settled on the track

Its farcial and its hard to see what is fair here given so many things being done to game the safety cars / red flags


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:36 pm
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As I understand it, if the race hadn't been stopped, race control would have said "give the place back or we'll refer it to the stewards". So if Red Bull had said "no thanks" the stewards would have intervened and potentially forced them to or apply a penalty


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:37 pm
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But why offer it - there’s a rule book! Follow it! And tell teams what is happening - be better off with Del Boy in charge if this is the way ‘deals’ are done.


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:38 pm
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How long to the next red flag then?


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:40 pm
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About 5 seconds after the next restart!


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:41 pm
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Max to take Ham out on the restart!? 🤔🤔🤣🤣


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:42 pm
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I'm guessing Red Bull are banking on at least another SC by putting on mediums...


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:42 pm
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Oh god, another grid. And Max actually 3rd……. this is a farce


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:42 pm
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I reckon Hamilton will pass Ocon at the start and then Verstappen will get frustrated behind him again and there'll be another car/wall interface.


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:43 pm
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What category of "Recreation" does this sh*t show fall into...... certainly not "Sport".


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:44 pm
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But why offer it – there’s a rule book! Follow it! And tell teams what is happening – be better off with Del Boy in charge if this is the way ‘deals’ are done.

Because they think it's fairer...would have happened big the race had carried on. I think.


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:44 pm
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But why offer it – there’s a rule book!

I think as the other poster mentioned, by convention the drivers get a chance to give the place back prior to the stewards getting involved. I've never heard anything like that during a red flag however.


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:44 pm
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OK, I was wrong...


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:45 pm
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Benefit of mediums there, possibly a master stroke by rb


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:46 pm
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So Max has to stop again and Ham doesn’t?

Ax Max is in mediums?


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:46 pm
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Arse


 
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They're both on mediums I think


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:47 pm
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Will the mediums do 35 laps? Pirelli say the hards will do 40


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:47 pm
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Lewis is on hards


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:47 pm
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No Hamilton is still on his original Hard tyres.


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:48 pm
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Great start by Max


 
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Great start by Max

Yeah good move there


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:49 pm
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Hamilton is still on his original Hard tyres

Yeah I'm wrong..but they think mediums.Will last


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:49 pm
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What happened to Russell btw? Did he just lift after seeing Perez bin it?


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:50 pm
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Hamilton swapped to medium at the first restart I think. He’d already done hard under the safety car.

Verstappen put hards on for the first restart as he’d only used mediums.

But a RB in clear air on mediums or a Merc in dirty air on hards - which uses tyres faster?


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:51 pm
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Hamilton has to keep enough pressure on now to burn through Max's tyres.


 
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Assuming no more SC, Merc have this as Max's tyres won't last


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:51 pm
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Max definitely decided to pinball that start and Hamilton was expecting it.


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:52 pm
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Nah, Lewis made a mistake and left the door wide open


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:53 pm
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Assuming no more SC

I’d imagine you’d get pretty long odds on that


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:54 pm
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What happened to Russell btw? Did he just lift after seeing Perez bin it?

He lifted off after seeing Perez in the wall on the left then Mazepin ran straight into the back of him. Neither driver could avoid that one.


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:54 pm
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How did Rik end up in 4th!?


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:55 pm
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Good boy Yuki, well thought out there.


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:56 pm
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SC?

Edit - VSC


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 6:58 pm
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Another vsc **** me


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 7:06 pm
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Another vsc **** me


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 7:18 pm
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****s sake again


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 7:18 pm
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watching this through my fingers!. I hope no one gets hurt


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 7:19 pm
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Verstappen was told to give it back and he's just taken him out.


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 7:20 pm
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That's a blatant brake check!


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 7:20 pm
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What a dirty little shit


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 7:20 pm
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Shame that Max can't actually race a car. He's mighty fast but he can't actually wheel to wheel race with other cars.


 
Posted : 05/12/2021 7:20 pm
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Ban MV. ...


 
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