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Really a case of only recording the races and skimming through in the hope something exciting might happen. Got more entertainment from watching the Monaco Historic feed last weekend - proper cars and a pleasure to watch/hear them.
I see RB are morning again because they went off the track and so has fastest lap taken off them. Why do they and dc find it so hard to understand the concept of staying on the track?
Yep, fan of DC but his Redbull bias is quite noticeable.
On Max's attempt at fastest lap, my OH looked up from her mobile phone game and commented that he went off track.
He made no comment when Hamilton lost a lap to track limits.
Good to see the Red Bulls in the same league as the Mercs, should be an exciting season.
I think the problem is lack of consistency. Track limits apply here, but not there, as determined buy the stewards. I think Max commented at the time that the stewards had not said they were applying track limits at that point. Barbed wire and tank traps on the kerbs might help.
Christian Horner did comment that it was a tricky business when tracks have to accommodate cars and bikes.
Yep, fan of DC but his Redbull bias is quite noticeable.
I never really noticed it until it was pointed out last week and after watching this weekends highlights he is pretty bad for it.
My understanding is track limits are monitored where there is an advantage in going off the track. I presume it’s because run off areas before hitting the gravel means there are no real consequences of going off track is it’s faster
slowoldman
Full MemberI think the problem is lack of consistency. Track limits apply here, but not there, as determined buy the stewards. I think Max commented at the time that the stewards had not said they were applying track limits at that point. Barbed wire and tank traps on the kerbs might help.bikes.
Max was wrong on that, they mentioned it on Missed Apex's race review.
It's amusing me slightly that it appears that RB are in a "be careful what you wish for" situation with the track limits, stemming from Bahrain.
In Bahrain the limits weren't being enforced on a particular corner so the Mercs were overruning massively there. RB complained during the race and it was decided that the limits would now be enforced. Verstappen then overtook Hamilton for the lead by going off track at that very corner and had to give the place back, handing Hamilton the win.
That farce and the slagging off the race management took for it has led to them being more strict currently, which has cost Redbull, as Verstappen has been incapable of keeping it on the island enough to not get pinged - my heart bleeds for them, oh, hang on, no it doesn't, if there was a wall there then you wouldn't have gone off, would you?
Why do they ever NOT enforce track limits? - surely that would be the most consistent and transparent thing to do on all corners on all tracks. Here's the grey stuff, cars must remain on it at all times, now off you go.
If an accident or near-miss or mistake means exceeding them then no advantage can be gained otherwise its a penalty.
Track limits apply here, but not there, as determined buy the stewards.
Its always been a case that the track is defined by the white line painted at the edge of the circuit. One wheel needs to be within that limit at all times.
They need to universally apply this all the time.
Picking and choosing causes ambiguity and inconsistency.
In an ideal world you'd change the circuits so that exceeding them lead to time loss.
A difficult thing to do though, and still keep safety standards for both F1 & MotoGP
They should have exposable gravel traps for the F1 which are for other types of racing covered by sections made of the same stuff as the track over a series of metal plates. Only the F1 cars are going to have the downforce to remove/displace them and they will all be removed for those races anyway.
Alternatively, have a duct which trickles/sprays water onto those sections during certain races. NO ONE will exceed track limits by choice.
NO ONE will exceed track limits by choice.
“Nelson, it’s Flav here…”
😉
So pleased for Grosjean! Not doing Mercedes PR any harm either 🙂
That's great - really pleased for him - smart marketing too!
Surely there is sufficient technology now to remove any need for human adjudication of track limit misuse? Just adopt a zero tolerance policy at all corners on all tracks and penalise accordingly. An automatic 5 sec penalty(served in the pits) should be enough. At least that's a milder penalty than hitting a wall/barrier.
so you lock up into a corner and run wide and have a 5 sec stop and go too boot, harsh!
Not as harsh as hitting a wall or barrier.
and yet they still do.
Yeah blanket penalty just doesn't quite work, you'd also have to adapt it for overtakes and somehow draw a line telling the different being forced off and just keeping your foot in it as it's still tarmac out there. It's gone a little odd in here in that people as suggesting that cars have never done interesting lines involving grass/gravel in the past and been able to keep it going (at pace)
chance of showers for sunday....
Immediately makes me go back to....
Full day test at Paul Ricard - has the poor fella not suffered enough! 🙂
6 key members of Mercedes engine team heading to Red Bull. Hamilton to jump ship next year? He made the right decision when he left Mclaren!
Hamilton to jump ship next year?
There is zero chance of Hamilton going to any other team. He will retire from driving someday, but he will still be driving for Merc until that happens.
The Red Bull hirings are to work on an engine for 2025. They will be on gardening leave for the rest of this year and the existing engines will be frozen next year, so the reason everyone is excited about this is that it means they have a long-term plan to build engines and stay in the sport. This will also keep Verstappen happy, so Red Bull don't have to worry about Merc stealing him when Hamilton retires.
There's also rumours about Porsche possibly do engines for RB.
There's always been rumours though.
There’s also rumours about Porsche possibly do engines for RB.
Aren't Williams and McLaren now run by ex-VW people? Would make a lot more sense to buy into them, surely.
Lol, sounds like Mazespin has done it again 😂
Mazepin has spun already. <5 mins into FP1......cripes!
I know he's not well regarded, but a bit of me feels sorry for him, He's way out of his depth, and the world is getting to watch. poor bloke, can't be good for the soul.
We're now at the fourth race of the season and Mazepin's F1 career, Mazepin still seems unable to grasp the notion that he needs to get his tyres up to working temperature.
He's also currently 2.3 seconds slower than his teammate, who has approximately half Mazepin's cumulative mileage in an F1 car.
the alpha tauri looks a handful.
Someone needs to tell Mazepin that opposite lock doesn't work if you have the brakes locked. He'd have got away with that if he hadn't panicked and hit the brakes.
Mazepin still seems unable to grasp the notion that he needs to get his tyres up to working temperature.
It's not that, In F2 last year he finished 5th and had 2 wins, he knows how these cars work. I think some drivers can make the leap, some can't. The point I was making was that he's probably dreamt of this (being an F1 driver) and when he gets there, he's (for whatever reason) bad at it, and the world gets to see that. On just a human level, that's tough for a young kid
nickc
It’s not that, In F2 last year he finished 5th and had 2 wins, he knows how these cars work. I think some drivers can make the leap, some can’t. The point I was making was that he’s probably dreamt of this (being an F1 driver) and when he gets there, he’s (for whatever reason) bad at it, and the world gets to see that. On just a human level, that’s tough for a young kid
Yeah but he's a helmet so it's funny
Kubica off, red flag
I kind of do feel a teeny bit sorry for Mazepin on a human level, I admit that I'm none too impressed at his behaviour over the years but I acknowledge that he's at least trying.
I know he’s not well regarded, but a bit of me feels sorry for him, He’s way out of his depth, and the world is getting to watch. poor bloke, can’t be good for the soul.
I have zero sympathy for him. He's fairly obviously been brought up to expect that he will always get everything he wants and now that he's up against some real competition, he just doesn't seem to know what to do. His general nastiness and sense of entitlement make it impossible to have any sympathy for him. Schumacher was also brought up by a hugely wealthy dad and had all the doors opened for him, but he knows that he has to earn his place on the grid and he seems to treat people with respect.
If it was anyone else we probably would feel sorry for him, but his off-track antics mean no-one is going to have any sympathy for him.
Someone on another forum was (unfairly in my opinion) comparing him to Maldonado. Maldonado was a) much quicker when he did remain on the track and more importantly b) widely regarded as a nice chap by his contemporaries off track, even if they did give him a wide berth on it
Schumacher was also brought up by a hugely wealthy dad and had all the doors opened for him, but he knows that he has to earn his place on the grid and he seems to treat people with respect.
You make a very good point.
I’m none too impressed at his behaviour over the years but I acknowledge that he’s at least trying.
Or is he just trying to improve the image portrayed? The cynical side of me (approx 99% of me it seems) reckons it’s just that
I'm absolutely with @thols2. The only people I feel sorry for are the woman he sexually assaulted and more deserving up and coming drivers that could be in that seat.
EDIT- And if there's a video of that happening to one woman, do people truly believe it was a one-off incident?