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It looks like Mercedes have decided Nico should be given the title this year but the other driver hasn't gotten the memo or has chosen to ignore it.
I'm sure Hamilton's car will begin suffering from a lack of reliability until the points gap opens back up to a comfortable distance again. 👿
It looks like Mercedes have decided Nico should be given the title this year
[url= https://thejudge13.com/2016/07/04/hamilton-lucks-in-with-race-tyres-in-austria/ ]If that were the case, I expect they would have given Hamilton the same tyres as Rosberg.[/url]
I take it you didn't read as far as Paddy Lowe's explanation? LH was on the right tyre.
If Rosberg drives as badly as he did on that last lap, for the rest of the season then it'll be Hamilton's anyway.
cheers Klunk, really enjoyed that, thanks for posting
So how long can the Merc duo remain together? From these comments by Lauda, then tensions aren't anywhere near easing!...
And talk of suspensions...
http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/10412603/mercedes-could-suspend-lewis-hamilton-and-nico-rosberg
...I might put a tenner on Lewis taking that Ferrari seat next to Vettel.
Weren't they on different tyres because Britney had run out of Softs?
If he was within 3.5 seconds of Rosberg the team could fairly ask him to let him by
Seriously?
the-muffin-man - Member...I might put a tenner on Lewis taking that Ferrari seat next to Vettel.
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Ferrari seem to prefer having a definite first and second driver though. Don't think Hamilton or Vettel would be up for that!
bluearsedfly - Member
Weren't they on different tyres because Britney had run out of Softs?
Yes, this was made clear on the Channel 4 highlights but it might have been missed on the Sky coverage
In an ideal world, Merc want a German champion. With LH in the same team, that's not going to happen. I wouldn't be surprised if LH wins his 4th world championship, then leaves, so NR can win next year.
I watched it on sky so it was defo mentioned there.
I'd sooner finger my own arse* and sell my soul to Murdoch rather than watch anything with Eddie Jordan in it.
*May not actually be true.
Not much EJ, which is good. Apparently he'll there for Silverstone though, lucky us!
Weren't they on different tyres because Britney had run out of Softs?
Not quite. LH had an extra set of softs to use on Friday to evaluate tyre wear. He didn't use them because of the rain. Therefore he had an extra set available for the race. LH actually questioned the choice of tyres and wanted to know why NR had faster (but less durable) tyres. If the team really wanted Rosberg to win, all they had to do was to fit the same tyres to both cars.
Both Mecs still allowed to race BUT with huge financial and racing penalties should they come together again.
BUT with huge financial and racing penalties should they come together again.
And who would impose these penalties?
Merc aren't going to hobble their own cars, and it's great for the show when they clatter into each other.
maybe they relegate them to the caravan of doom for the race weekend and they have to make their own tea?
Is it a case of he ran into me or I had to avoid running into him. Maybe there is a crash damage accumulator , endplate minor infringement, losing 4 wheels is a write off 🙂
I can well imagine Britney being on the blower a lot whilst Hamilton tears past him. Is this really good PR for them as it just highlights the fact that they cant control the situation.
And who would impose these penalties?
And who is going to aportion blame for the penalties if the stewards put an incident down as a racing incident with no blame? That could get interesting internally.
Merc will. Massive fines and possible suspensions from a race or two. Neither driver would want to miss a race-that would potentially be it for the WC.
Don't forget from a constructors point of view the drivers WC is a distraction. Their money comes from the constructors WC and this is why they're so keen on 1-2's and stuff the drivers racing if that's ultimately what they need to do.
Do you think Hamilton would stay at Mercedes if they actually suspended him for a race?
Do you think Hamilton would stay at Mercedes if they actually suspended him for a race?
Depends upon where else is an option. Ferrari are showing signs of ascendency, but as already discussed, they tend to like a clear hierarchy amongst their drivers. I can't see that working out well with Vettel and Hamilton. Not sure Red Bull would be of that much interest to him either TBH.
Latest news is that Kimi is staying where he is for 2017.
I'd like to see hamilton set up his own team.. there has always been a nice story about racers winning in their own team although I reckon its highly unlikely with the politics and money involved.. It must be considered the pinnacle of a F1 driver.
Merc will. Massive fines and possible suspensions from a race or two. Neither driver would want to miss a race-that would potentially be it for the WC.
Never in a million years would Merc do that.
Brawn to return and Lewis to go somewhere with him. Williams?
Raikkonen re-signs - there goes my tenner then! 😀
A worrying thing for all teams is that Adrian Newey is excited by the 2017 regulations - so what loophole has he found?
Sad news that Murray Walker might have been to his last GP -
Legendary former F1 commentator Murray Walker will be a rare absentee at the British grand prix this weekend.The iconic Briton is synonymous with the sport after serving for decades as a commentator, but now aged 92 he admits he is "too frail" to be at Silverstone this time around.
"I am an old man, my legs aren't what they used to be," he told the Mirror. "You know four days of walking about at a grand prix is very hard work indeed.
"I would rather quietly stay at home," Walker added. "You never like to say never but I think I have been to my last grand prix. Do I like it? No I don't. But you work with the hand you are dealt."
[url= http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns34347.html ]sauce[/url]
Loving that sign!
well that was a tad embarrassing for the other teams over 1 sec back for the nearest non merc ! 🙄
Yes indeed, have the FIA called in the UCI yet to check for motors?
That banner is ace 😀
I'm not a big follower of F1 (or this thread), so forgive me if this is old news
Ricciardo's on R5 just now talking about being a fan of thrash metal, having just sung a line of "love is all around" in response to a question abot whether he's feeling it at Silverstone
Yesterday I heard him saying that, after a race, he needs to check himself in a mirror and make sure he's still a 9 or 10 before relaxing for the evening
Good work IMO (unless he's a complete arse, of course)
Is Brawn definitely returning or was that specualtion?
Get on with it ZZzzz
10 second penalty for Palmer on top of the time that he'd already lost. That'll learn him twice.
*conspiracy theorists hat* lewis has a problem @ baku "can't tell you lewis"..... british gp rosberg has an issue and straight "go to mode...."
they enjoyed that !
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british gp rosberg has an issue and straight "go to mode...."
And it's immediately leapt upon by the Stewards. No great conspriracy.
Looks like a slam dunk penalty...
Hopefully 😀
merc conspiracy not an FIA one 😉 I don't believe in it the engineer panicked and blurted out the solution !
Rosberg had a problem that would have stopped the car (stuck in 7th); an instruction to keep the car going is allowed under the rules. The second communication which advised avoiding 7th and then telling him how to avoid 7th is more of an issue. It's the second communication which is under investigation.
if it's a safety issue the only message allowed should be "strat mode 4 box box box".
Not if you're about to stop the car on track...
and yet he passed the pit lane entry another 6 or 7 times
Rosberg: “Gearbox problem.”
Engineer: “Driver default 1-0-1, chassis default 0-1, chassis default 0-1.”
Engineer: “Avoid seventh gear, Nico, avoid seventh gear.”
Rosberg: “What does that mean, I have to shift through it?”
Engineer: “Affirm Nico, you need to shift through it. Affirm, you need to shift through it.”
the conversation and nothing about being stuck in 7th
Klunk - Member
and yet he passed the pit lane entry another 6 or 7 times
After the conversation, yes. So?
the conversation and nothing about being stuck in 7th
You could see it on the steering wheel and the team would be able to see it from the telemetry.
so it was never a safety issue, it was a protect 2nd place issue.
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when you thought nothing could be slower than a 4th umpire lbw referral
3rd even 😳
you get the feeling if it was manor or Sauber, 10 sec penalty without even so much of a second thought! 😉
Ridiculous delay! I sense some strongly put arguments...
or contemplating something more serious than a 10 sec penalty.... must be a DQ on the cards
A car stopping on the track IS a safety issue when those coming from behind you are doing 150+mph
Maybe they were watching the Wimbledon final first?
Regardless, that photo of Lewis Hamilton crowd surfing at the British Grand Prix will go down in history as one of the best!
Nico should be penalised, partly for being Britney and partly for receiving team help. Hamo! Hamo!
10 second time penalty for Nico, max takes p2, nico drops to p3.
http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/rosberg-handed-10-second-time-penalty-drops-to-third-797642/
Yay! Although I feel slightly bad for saying that.
Britney robbed Max of his rightful podium celebration. Wish he'd take his sour mug and eff off. Lewis will now turn up the playful mind games on him further 😀
Penalty was for telling him how to avoid 7th rather than telling him what setting to use. Millions per race and he needs to be told that you avoid 7th by going from 6th to 8th...
And he kept using 7th anyway. Not worth the penalty.
Interestingly it sounds like telling him what engine and chassis settings he needed was allowable under the rules
He is indeed well paid but I think the reason he asked how to avoid 7th gear is that you can't change from 6th to 8th in an F1 car hence the car sticking in 7th which made it appear he was still using it ... Alway I think they deliberately broke the rules knowing Britney would get a penalty giving Lewis an advantage in the championship (joking).
That sign that sands posted is genius! #rubbinghisnoseinit 😆
Well I've just caught up it. Couldn't catch it yesterday, there was some proper racing going on elsewhere.
Max eh? There's the future of F1.
Yep - Verstappen's overtake on Rosberg for P2 on inters was special - absolutely millimetre perfect!! I think I actually jumped off the sofa shouting "go on lad!"
My take on yesterday; tarmac run offs have helped ruined F1. The amount of times the top guys just ran it off the 'circuit' but returned with no penalty was ridiculous. Considering it was a damp race it was all pretty formulaic with Hamilton cruising to victory. The only decent moments of interest with the Verstappen's overtake on Rosberg, and Vettels spin. Even Palmer missing a wheel was mostly missed by the TV.
It's not so much the runoff areas, as the camera angles. They're zoomed in from a distance so any sense of speed is lost in translation.
F1 would be the perfect sport to experiment with camera drones.
My take on yesterday; tarmac run offs have helped ruined F1. The amount of times the top guys just ran it off the 'circuit' but returned with no penalty was ridiculous.
Definitely.
Yep, as much as I don't want to see them smashing themselves up, there needs to be some reason to attempt the corner, even at the expense of a lock up/flat spotting a tyre/losing time or speed.P previously you'd stick it in the gravel and game over, or you'd e driving on cack tyres fora good while. Maybe they need mandatory drive through or something to make it worthwhile trying to make it stick.
It's not beyond the wit of man to come up with an automatic system that detects when they've exceeded circuit limits, iirc it's already in place in some series. Next question is what to do about it - if there's any leniency then it will be exploited by someone, so some enforced time penalty but applied immediately so the result on the track is the actual result. Maybe reducing ers deployment for the next lap, though that would be seen as another artificial tweak.
Or just stick armco 100mm outside the white line and make every track as severe as Monaco.
Amazing stuff from Verstappen!
Halo on the Red Bull today at Silverstone - it doesn't get any better looking with familiarity. Not the way to go IMO...
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http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2016/07/12/pictures-2016-f1-testing-day-eleven-silverstone/
The screen was better than that I reckon. At least that looked like it belonged on a car.
Didn't the screen fail the safety tests though? Think that's why the halo is the least worst option
I thought it just wasn't so far along in the safety tests, rather than failing? Could have misunderstood though.
i saw it mentioned somewhere, possible on BBC that screen had failed the test where they fire a tyre at it.
AutoSport suggests that is the case, passed RBs own tests but not the FIA ones. My mistake!
The amount of times the top guys just ran it off the 'circuit' but returned with no penalty was ridiculous
I don't think they "ran it off" - the track was wet, they were on slicks and it was gusty at Abbey (which is why everyone went off there and few people went off anywhere else). No tarmac runoff at Abbey = about five finishers.
In the BBC article on Horner saying he will vote against Halo at least for 2017, and Vettel raised concerns also. Article also said the screen had failed the FIA tests and Red Bull have scrapped any further development.
Rosberg has signed a 2yr contract extension with mercedes
Rosberg has sign a contract 2yr extension with mercedes
🙁