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So Dan ric is staying at redbull, and the silly season's next target to take kimis seat is perez.
Meanwhile in Baku, dodgy kerbs look like being an issue, as well as escape roads you can't escape from. And what the hell are mclaren playing at?
what the hell are mclaren playing at?
In what respect? Being competitive?
And what the hell are mclaren playing at?
IMO Honda have given up on the current engine design. Now it's a free-for-all next season (no tokens) I can see them chucking all their resources at a completely new engine and hybrid system.
And on the engine front - it looks like if you haven't got a Merc engine you are nowhere in this Baku race.
And even if you do and your name is Manor, you're still nowhere.
They haven't progressed as people thought they might this year with Merc parts.
When I posted that mclaren were around p6 in fp2 after a similar result in fp1, but it looks like normal service has been resumed. Honda have already said they're working on alternative concepts for next year so I'd expect the rest of their development this year to focus on the ers side of the public, they've just done an update to the ice so that's probably it for the year for the ice.
Right, Baku about to start. I'm predicting a fair amount of carnage at this race.
Seems s. L. O. W.
It's a bit dull... Needs a big crash to close it all up behind a safety car
It's a bit dull... Needs a big crash to close it all up behind a safety car
is very dull
Needs Lewis to guess which button he needs to push. Will be as dull as rosbergs podium celebration at this rate.
Agreed, I thought he should play the 'settings lottery'! Might find something he wasn't expecting!
At least Kimi is providing some entertainment with his radio transmissions. Otherwise, this is dull, dull, dull
The team could at least give Lewis some clues "did you know paddy got SEVEN Green shirts for father's day?"
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Seems he played with the settings and found it! Come on then, Lewis let's see it! Kimi is grumpy...
well, I was wrong, that was a massive yawn fest
Yep let it all out nico, unbridled emotion there. He makes mansell look excitable.
Just a bit wrong, a complete snore fest. Shame as it looked a good track for drama. Oh well, next time....
Baku needs rain. That'd spice it up.
Expected a good race... got lots of ironing done instead.
I'm kinda glad I fell asleep half way though now !
After the GP2 race I was expecting some real fun and games.
It was deadly dull. Seems like a bit of a wasted opportunity.
I think everyone was just waiting for someone to stuff it into the wall (I know I was)! Red flag, bit of carnage, spice it all up again. But yes, really really dull as it was. Shame really, there was tonnes of overtaking, should have been interesting on paper.
Gutted Lewis didn't just prod buttons to see what happens, but loved the 'compliant' reply: "errr... We really don't recommend doing that Lewis".
Not just an acicdent, but a tactical breakdown would have been nice to get the safety car out.
The SC restarts in GP2 were spectacular. I'm sure they were 6 wide going into the first corner in one restart.
Gutted Lewis didn't just prod buttons to see what happens, but loved the 'compliant' reply: "errr... We really don't recommend doing that Lewis".
Makes you wonder what his piano playing is like.
I thought this was the most entertaining thing all day.
Yep, it definitely was!! 🙂
that sofa looks like the ropey old thing we had in a shared house back in the early eighties 😯
Also in that clip it's quite funny watching Nico's face when Vettel asks him if he took turn 13 flat.
Hamilton is such a fanny grumbling about settings in his car.
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I expected a lot more of a hectic race at Baku after watching GP2, was a little disappointed.
Onto Austria.
Various drivers complaining about the new Yellow Kerbs designed to keep the drivers on the track
Kimi Raikkonen on Sky Sports: "We didn't get too many laps done with the conditions. So it's a bit unknown."What about the yellow kerbs?
"It doesn't matter what colour the kerbs are."
We'll miss his wit in 2017.
Well Rosberg and Merc bosses deserved that. They royally screwed Lewis over with their strategy. They should have managed an easy clean run to a win for Lewis.
Hahahaha - Rosberg can't beat LH in a clean race
nice lederhosen race overalls
nice lederhosen race overalls
Aye - thought that when I saw them on Friday.
One of those things they'll look back on in 15yrs and think "what were we thinking!?"
Ha. Only Rosberg is under investigation (falling to stop with a seriously damaged car).
At worst he could be disqualified. If he is found to be at fault at best it'll be a points deduction.
Oh bloody hell! Dozed off with two laps to go. Bloody Australian time zone!
Austrian?
Didn't see it but sounds quite "dramatic", there are going to be reprocussions for sure
No, Australian: it's nearly midnight here.
Bit too exciting at the end for a tyre preservation procession 😉
Oh dear, and predictably NR thinks he did nothing wrong because he "had the racing line" - well that sure isn't the racing line you're on here Nico
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Ha, confused, me! Who knew you were in Australia during the Austrian gp...
Slam-dunk guilty from onboard cameras on Nico's car - what a complete arse he if thinks there's someone else to blame.
Well apparently LH "turned into him" because he "went a bit deep in the corner" as he was "struggling with his brakes" and he thinks he is in the right because he's on the inside so can go as wide as he likes and force LH off. I think he should check who is under investigation for causing a collision...
Ze Germans just love driving into other drivers.
A hint of Schumi v Villeneuve there. Britney had lost the corner fair and square and so 'forgot' how to drive. A dnf for the pair of them would have suited him just dandy.
Then he had a second attempt as LH tried to rejoin.
Thing is when LH goes in hard he knows exactly what's going to happen. Britney seems to be more of the hit and hope school.
That crash was completely of mercs own making, keeping Lewis out for 3 laps longer than was needed to give Rosberg track position was never going to end well.
I would say the the crash was entirely of Britney's making as she completely failed any attempt to make the corner.
Now LH is in front of the stewards. Haven't said why yet...
Indeed - it wasn't LH being wound up which caused that - the only blame which can be laid directly on Merc is them not giving NR enough of a kick up the backside when he was last an arse.
edit: you'd assume the stewards would want LH's take on the incident - though probably only if they were considering issuing a penalty...
There's a bit of a question of passing under the yellow by Lewis.
He'll likely be alright as bits were flying off the other Merc
What yellow?
The first yellow just a LH was overtaking NR was a flag and not the light initially shown on TV.
The LH past the flag marginally before starting his overtake on NR's now knackered car.
Touch and go as a) LH may not have seem the flag and b) you can overtake a clearly damaged car under yellow caution anyway (otherwise you could be sick behind a car doing 10 mph on its way back to the pits).
Yellow flags but just after LH overtook 'Britney'
What were the yellows for?
Not sure, possibly the Perez incident
[url= http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/10332607/lewis-hamilton-and-nico-rosbergs-late-austrian-gp-crash-analysed ]the Anthony Davidson analysis [/url]
What were the yellows for?
Either for all of the debris coming off Rosberg's car or for Perez ploughing into the barriers up ahead.
@Andyd- LH actually past the first yellow marginally before starting any overtake. It was a flag on the right of the circuit but came out just as LH was approaching where the martial was stood and was probably a bit distracted by the amount of crap flying off NR's car.
10 second penalty for Britney.
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Good evidence!
[quote=simondbarnes ]Either for all of the debris coming off Rosberg's car
That's what I was wondering, hence the leading question - you can hardly penalise a driver for passing a car which is causing yellow flags by dumping rubbish on the track. Though I presume NR being under investigation for not stopping effectively nullifies any penalty for overtaking him under yellow.
Will be interested to hear Nico "not my fault" Rosberg's reaction to the ruling, though somewhat disappointed it wasn't a 15s penalty to at least drop him a place (I'm nasty like that).
edit: have finally managed to watch the replay, and whilst I still can't spot the yellows, if it was where LH overtook NR, then almostly certainly for Perez as you see him in the barriers just after.
Why Britney?
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In response to a call from the pit wall at the 2006 Brazilian Grand Prix to let Williams team-mate Nico Rosberg pit first...
"Don't think so mate. Britney's in the wall"
We are looking like a bunch of idiots and it's disrespectful to 1500 people who work their nuts off to prepare the cars and this is why it needs to end.
Toto's comment above rather annoyed me - there are 1500 people working to build RACING cars - not 'after-you, no after-you kind sir' cars. Let them race or split them up and have a definite No.2 in one of the cars.
Yes I believe team orders are allowed so if you don't want them to scratch the paintwork tell them to hold station. Otherwise leave them alone and don't whinge - though in this case I did think Nico was out of order and got what he deserved, a drop from 1st to 4th.
Presumably team orders today would have told LH not to try to get past? So penalising the driver who wasn't to blame for the incident (according to the stewards). In fact isn't it going to be LH penalised most of the time by team orders? And isn't it NR who's been responsible for most of the incidents? So NR now has added incentive to create another incident...
In fact isn't it going to be LH penalised most of the time by team orders?
I suppose that depends upon who they think will consistently win them more points. In the past few years, that has to be LH. Also, assuming they take into account that the rest of the pack will eventually catch them technologically (and Ferrari already are except they keep screwing the strategy), who's more likely to come out best in a scrap? That definitely has to be LH.
But, it's a German manufacturer, run by German management, and NR is ze German driver. Who knows....
[quote=zokes ]I suppose that depends upon who they think will consistently win them more points.
I thought the suggestion was that team orders would be to maintain station, and given NR is incapable of passing LH on the track...
Presumably team orders today would have told LH not to try to get past?
Not necessarily.
LH spent 3.5 seconds longer in the pits waiting for his tyres to be fitted. If he was within 3.5 seconds of Rosberg the team could fairly ask him to let him by.
LH was told towards the end (not sure which lap) that it was 'Hammer time' which doesn't suggest 'hold station'
[quote=aracer ]Will be interested to hear Nico "not my fault" Rosberg's reaction to the ruling
Well there's a surprise:
[quote=Nico "not my fault" Rosberg]"They gave me the blame, which sucks," he said. "I'm of a different opinion, but that doesn't help."
I loved that he said he "didn't expect Lewis to turn in".
Why the hell not? That's what generally happens when you get to a corner!
Yeah, that was the funniest part - in Nico's head LH was supposed to keep going straight off the track because Nico had the inside. I'm not sure he's yet worked out that the racing line isn't to drive straight past the apex, and that actually he doesn't have the right to push other drivers off the track in the middle of a corner.