But that only covers tariffs - what about non-tariff restrictions such as the UK accepting disinfected chicken and the EU not?
I don't know about disinfected chickens, but I was watching the head of DEFRA (or the head of the bit that deals with plant and animal health) in front of the Select Committee stating they had no plans to change the way they handled any imports of plants or animals.
He had no control over how other countries chose to treat our exports of plants and animals though.
I think the theory is the UK's rules are not the same as the EU's but the outcome is, where necessary.
Essentially like Like BS, EN and CE approval then? In most cases products are cross compliant.
It would, I think, be useful to have some examples of where regulatory alignment versus regulatory non-divergence actually makes a practical difference to someone, say in respect of agriculture and food.
Are you going back to impérial ?
Not really, politicians are concerned about the perception of the deal as much as the detail, the press were reporting that the DUP had been sold out and that perception is clearly unacceptable to them. Everyone will grandstand for a few days to prove they can't be pushed around, talks will hang by a thread, and then an agreement will be reached.
Yes but why settle for a black instant when you can have a full fat frothy double shot latte?
A THM question that I can find a straight answer to; I much perfer black instant, it tastes of coffee rather than an industrial milk derivative.
[url= https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/dec/05/under-fire-from-both-sides-david-davis-retreats-into-his-shell ]https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/dec/05/under-fire-from-both-sides-david-davis-retreats-into-his-shell[/url]
This is what our politics has become as a result of Brexit.
Desperate stuff.
[quote=cchris2lou ]Are you going back to impérial ?
I'm sure lots of Brexiteers would indeed like to go back to the days of the empire.
Davies latest bit of nonsense. Apparently the no regulatory divergence or whatever silly words he used would apply to the whole of the UK not just NI.
Now thats going to upset the Rabids because that means no lowering of standards thus no trade deal with the US amongst others.
He really is dim
Ahh Imperial I knew those BSW and AF spanners would come back into fashion.
I can start using terms like "a couple of thou" again...
Red herring - if we export to the EU markets we will have to match their standards what ever arrangement we trade under. Funny how a piece of Brexshit BS has now been hjqcked by remoaners
Do you ever sleep or is there a team of THMers monitoring this thread around the clock?
Six of us zippy !
We dip in between mewtings, when databases are updating or when travelling. Then share the fun 😉
Are you going back to impérial ?
They haven't gone away, you know?
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Red herring - if we export to the EU markets we will have to match their standards what ever arrangement we trade under.
Red herring - this lovely fact has nothing to do with anything it could possibly have been a response to on this page.
Funny how a piece of Brexshit BS has now been hjqcked by remoaners
Twaddle. Nonsense. Troll muttering.
Because Angry People in Local Newspapers go a bit swivel-eyed when the council tries to use metric.
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[i]"Some people say kids are taught in metres — but kids don’t go down there. It’s just us golden oldies.
We’ve fought and won two world wars and finally won our referendum to come out of the European Union.
But now we are producing pathway signs in kilometres."[/i]
😀
(this is completely irrelevant to Brexit of course)
[b][i]"This Irish stuff"[/i][/b] - good old IDS.
The media & a lot of Brexit MPs trying to at best denigrate at worst villify Ireland at the moment, as if we needed more Brexit whipped up xenophobia !
this is completely irrelevant to Brexit of course
Apart from the reference to two world wars and a referendum. He seems to have forgotten one world cup. Daft old sod.
Wonder how much more May can take?
Utter humiliation again for her yesterday, arranging a 'working lunch' with Juncker
Only to have her announcement of a deal cancelled, flying back home to wrestle with Foster...
By the time the Brexiters discard her after the leaving date, she will be a hollowed out husk !
No doubt stressed her massively
But imagine if she pulls this off against all the odds ....
The media & a lot of Brexit MPs trying to at best denigrate at worst villify Ireland at the moment
Bally uppity colonials getting ideas above their station?!
what is there to pull off ?
If she pulls it off......
She'll still be a joke, the election, aligning with the DUP, triggering A50 too early, letting her MPs constantly undermine her, appointing Johnson, fox, davis, her little Englander 2016 conference speech , ridiculous red lines, and so many other own goals , she's made everything harder! brexit's the toughest of jobs for a skilled leader, let alone our worst PM since.... Cameron 😉
and then she's got to actually discuss trade, aren't these just the pre-pre negotiations !
As I said a hollowed-out husk
Her chances of puling it off? Pretty negligable unless you set a very low bar. Already half the time is gone and we don't even have agreements on the preconditions for negotiations - and that agreement is a fair distance away as the basic paradoxes still are there.
ECJ and Irish border.
The first ever successful exit from the EU. Never been tried before. Never even been contemplated. Imagine....
What sauce to serve with hats?
It's not a blimmin moonshot THM! 😆
I'm sure we will leave. "Successful" will be a [i]very[/i] subjective term though.
Define "successful".
Define successful.
Jumping out of a plane, even if you are wearing a parachute, does not constitute a successful parachute jump. The success is measured by how hard you hit the ground.
Never even been contemplated.
I think you will find it has. Its just only the UK where it went ahead (although depending on your definition you could include Greenland).
Imagine....
there is no heaven?
Or are you trying to say that with nothing to compare it against (minus Greenland sort of) she might be able to claim she has done well.
What sauce to serve with hats?
Dunno. What do you like with yours? Bearing in mind how confident you were yesterday of it all going swimmingly.
Given that nothing THM has claimed would happen has come to pass whereas everything I and the other remainers have said will happen has happened...................
how can it not be successful ?
if you determine success by actually leaving the EU , then it is pretty simple . no trade deal , pay whatever you owe and set up borders .
Given that nothing THM has claimed would happen has come to pass whereas everything I and the other remainers have said will happen has happened...................
That’s either very brave or very foolish to state given that you have been arguing that there will be no deal, that no one of intelligence has been involved, that there are no behind the scenes negotiations, that no progress can be made, that bankers are flooding out of the uK, that the economy was going into a 4% recession etc
0/6 and counting
Are you still using WoS as a source for this intelligence (sic) that is being posted?
That THM answering me again?
teamhurtmore - Memberteamhurtmore said something stupid.
I'll bet he is claiming I have said things that I haven't and that none of the scenarios such as flight of bankers, end of inward investment, massive shortfalls in EU nurses etc are actually happening? Despite the fact they are exactly as I predicted.
whereas everything I and the other remainers have said will happen has happened...................
Donald Tusk[i] "As a historian I fear Brexit could be the beginning of the destruction of not only the EU but also Western political civilisation in its entirety,"[/i]
I must have slept through that bit happening, was it on the news?
'Stupid' is the wrong word, can you change it to 'atagonistic'?
not skilled enough with computers. thats what I see tho when THM posts thanks to someones sanity saving killfile
So David Davies said exactly what I said earlier in the thread, “Regulatory Alignment” can mean many different things including quite a vague “in general” sort of thing. Claims that what May was speaking of in Florence.
IMO Ireland have been told to collect the €13bn due from Apple and which the EU is suing them for not collecting as a condition them having a say in Brexit at this early stage. At least they are collecting the money from Apple. Long overdue.
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-42237312
triggering A50 too early
She left it as late as possible, any later runs into the May 2019 EU elections, would be bizarre to be electing MEPs and leaving the EU
so basically that word has no meaning , nothing concrete .
glad you cleared this up for us .
or we could just say that DD and co havent got a clue what they are trying to achieve .
Bollox Jamba - he may try to claim that in trying to be all things toall people knowing fully well he cannot even carry the whole tory party with him but it has a specific meaning.
He also lied when he said it would apply across the UK as the draft text specifically refers to NI
applying regulatory alignment across the UK is a absolute NO to the 50+ rabid leavers. Rees Mogg has already said as much IIRC
Long overdue.
Agreed.
But that's some mighty fine whataboutery.
Mash doing a good job here: http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/im-your-prime-minister-now-20171205140394
Davis said “regulatory alignment” was something for the whole of the UK. But he did not address one of the specific problems with the draft text of the Brexit deal released yesterday; that, in the event of there being “no deal”, it would commit Northern Ireland to shadowing EU regulation while leaving the rest of the UK to go its own way.
From the Grauniad
Making it up as you go along Davies?
