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its alright the Gillet Jambon have it covered
I want to know more about this "suppression of advanced technologies".
Especially since it is followed by "5G masts" and "Smart meters". Are those the suppressed technologies?
Geoengineering and Weather Manipulation? Tell me more.
PS. I think we could do with Dr. Lubowa in parliament right now.
I'm conflicted.
I'm against Criminal Elite Secret Societies but quite looking forward to 5G.
I'm confused about this Brady amendment.
I thought the backstop agreement was basically, "we don't know what to do so we'll defer the problem until we have time to think of something"? So, now they're saying they're not going to think of something because they're going to think of something else?
Have I missed something here?
its alright the Gillet Jambon have it covered
Jesus wept.
I was trying to find a better picture of that flyer and found another.
(... Poor wording aside, every single one of those issues is a domestic problem of our own making.)
every single one of those issues is a domestic problem of our own making.
Along with everything else the EU has become a scapegoat for.
'Poor Education Levels' needs to go on those flyers.
Somewhere near the top.
I saw the eu army making people frack agaunst their will at gunpoint last time I was up leith hill.
Re that flyer....
I have my own story of injustice... that is a bunch of ill informed, poorly educated morons actively trying to undermine my ability to make a living, screw up my country and inhibit my kids rights and chances of free travel in the future... **** them
Useful advice from the Mash for post Brexit no food meals
A post-Brexit lack of recognisable foodstuffs is a culinary challenge but just follow our simple recipes for a creative approach to not starving.
<p dir="ltr">Houseplant salad
Getting your greens when the supermarket shelves are bare needn’t be a challenge – just eat a cheese plant. Layer up a tasty, textured salad from the various potted plants you’ve barely kept alive for years. Add handfuls of weeds from the pavement for a fancy, cosmopolitan garnish.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Tenner tagliatelle
Got money to spend on food? It’s no use when there’s nothing to buy. Instead, try shredding your notes into thick tagliatelle-like strips, which you can fry up with some E45 for this luxuriously creamy Italian classic.</p>
<p dir="ltr">‘Rice’ and ‘spice’
Like every other human, you have some chunks of polystyrene packaging in the back of cupboard. Crumble it up into a rice-like substance and boil it. Then drain and stir in some ground-up pot pourri. This fragrant, chewy dish will almost feel like the old days, when Britain had food.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Domestic pet hotpot
An extreme measure, but if your family is suffering from a lack of protein, try this hearty winter warmer, which works especially well with hamsters. Sorry Snowy, but that’s what you get for having flesh.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Millionaire’s shortbread
The same old classic recipe, except that purchasing the flour, butter, sugar and chocolate will now cost the same as a five-bedroom house in Guildford.</p>
Have I missed something here?
Yes. The unicorns arent only sorting out the borders they are also sorting out the parliamentary vote.
Apparently EU will reopen negotiations if everyone votes for it since it shows maybot is in power and supported by everyone and so johnny foreigner will bend to her will.
Probably best to skip over the minor detail it hasnt worked so far and also that several tories have already said despite voting for it if they dont like what she comes back with what they want they will vote against it.
I cant see why anyone but the ERG and DUP would vote for it.
Hah! Right, cheers.
If only that pesky, obstructive, odious EU would hurry up and invent those unicorns for us.......they need us more than we need them, remember.
I’m looking forward to the £350m a week for the NHS too - it is just those evil Europeans that are denying us that as well.
Read the BBC comments if you want to be very very scared. Some of these loons cannot actually string a coherent sentence together, yet apparently they know all about what goes on in the world.
We are ****ed.
I'm sitting here in Austria trying to make head or tail of what's going on.
It seems to be a complete sh i t storm. I just got my Austrian drivers license today. I really have no intention to go back to live in the uk when such lunacy is in charge.
I’m sitting here in Austria trying to make head or tail of what’s going on.
Despite all the parliamentary language and procedures, it is very simple what is going on.
It’s a ****ing huge mistake and any grown up (remember THM’s ones?) can see the only course of action that is not massively self harming is for the UK to climb down, apologise, and beg to be allowed to continue as it was.
But we can’t do that because we’re afraid of a bunch of xenophobes, racists and backward looking halfwits who make a lot of noise, but actually would probably drop dead of a heart attack if it got to any fisticuffs.
So, rather than address the issue itself, we are making ourselves look like bellends by trying to get the EU to sell all its principles down the river just to accommodate us. A country that was always a pain in the arse and had already got masses of exceptions and opt-outs in place. And then kicked them in the balls.
Have I missed anything?
Oh yeah, the proles are being marched to their doom by a bunch of spivs who have promised their mates we’d be out by 1st April when the EU laws on tax avoidance come into play.
Do we even need to beg?
I was under the impression that revoking article 50, and saying "well that was silly, let's just carry on where we left off then" is technically enough.
disaster
Back to square one then! No change
Personally I’m afraid of losing my job, I work for a water treatment company who as a precaution of a No Brexit deal are opening up a European warehouse making my job redundant.
I hope these tossers like Jacob cream cracker and bojo feel our pain
I was under the impression that revoking article 50, and saying “well that was silly, let’s just carry on where we left off then” is technically enough.
It is but it would need someone to retract it.
Given our paralysed government.. It's difficult to see a mechanism where it could happen.
We're simply sleep walking into economic destitution as it stands.
I hope these tossers like Jacob cream cracker and bojo feel our pain
Sadly unless it ends up with full fledged riots (even then they will be on the first flight out) those ****ers will have hedged their bets.
Those two are arseholes but not idiots. They see profits from the disaster.
Even some of the proper idiots like IDS will be looked after (unless hopefully he does a Boris and cheats on his wife in which case his funds disappear).
So at best I think I can say Bojo wont get his dream of being PM(hopefully).
It is but it would need someone to retract it.
Ol’ Tess seemed pretty happy to trigger it without a clue how to sort it, can she not be equally as blazé about revoking it?
Grieve & Cooper amendments defeated. Were they our last hope of staying in or are there some rabbits in a hat somewhere?
The government is now whipping its MPs to vote against its own deal, so it can reopen an agreement the EU will not reopen. This, apparently, counts as success.
I hope these tossers like Jacob cream cracker and bojo feel our pain
Yeah, good luck with that.
There's still a chance she's trying to force remain. Maybe.
It is but it would need someone to retract it.
Some SNP MPs put forward a measure that would mean parliament could vote to instruct the government to revoke A50, if it goes to the wire with no deal in place… but no one else supported it, as far as I know, and it was left out of today's proceedings. It wasn't even to revoke A50, just to allow parliament to choose that if and when the shit is about to hit the fan… but MPs seem keen to bind their own hands so that when shit goes down, they can claim the couldn't stop it. All culpable devious ****s, avoiding doing their jobs beause of the referendum. That excuse won't wash long term with a large proportion of the UK public. SNP (and PC & the Green) looking head and shoulders above the old moribund UK parties. They all suggested actual achievable compromises between the Leave and Remain constituents… and now that they've been ignored and we have the inevitable empass, the only ones pushing for parliament (and our countries) to keep open the only possible routes out of the ever deeper hole we're digging for ourselves.
[note: I know that A50 can't be revoked… it is the notification of intent to withdraw from the EU treaties under A50 that can be withdrawn… but we have to use the inaccurate and misleading sloppy language of our useless journalists so that we all know that we're talking about the same thing… the ignorance and simplifications propagated by our media has f cked up our discourse about all of this, hasn't it]
Yeah, good luck with that.
There are other ways.
Ooh that was a surprise.
What was?
Ooh that was a surprise
It was largely thought in Parliament there was not a majority for no deal.
Not binding. Tory rebels acting hard when it doesn't count.
Even MPs giving themselves the chance to call for A50 period extension wasn't voted for by MPs in the end. Why would they want a chance to avoid disaster? "Not our fault". Very glad Labour whipped for this though; not supporting it is utter nutter territory…
https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1090345836545040386?s=21
Flint is morphing into the new Hoey. The rest have a long history of being unreliable nut jobs.
A surprise because it looked as though everything was going to go with the government.
Oh god… "replace the backstop with unspecified and not yet existing magical technology"… passed. **** idiots.
Back to square one then! No change
Apart from the end of the game is far closer.
Might look up what my tory MP went for and waste some more time asking him to get a backbone. Maybe if I claim if we dont leave the EU then he might be able to use right to be forgotten to cover up his past he might buy it.
Ffs idiots and fantasist trying to prove they have some relevance in to the eu. I'm expecting a big **** you from the eu shortly.
**** idiots.
Some idiots who believe hard brexit is a good idea to teach johnny foreigner a lesson.
Some idiots who think its moronic but that somehow the maybot will beat the extremists if given more time.
Some arseholes who want it to end in tears for most and profits for them.
Some religious zealots.
*** ** **** determined to * this country to ****, and hoping we'll blame the * ** on the other **** side. * these ** and their * games, played out at our **** expense.
On the Withdrawal with a change to backstop “arrangements” (Executive ‘success’)...
Tusk immediately said no. The deal is the deal. Take it or leave it.
So, half an hour on from the vote, have the EU told her to **** off and stop wasting everyone's time yet?
Tusk immediately said no. The deal is the deal. Take it or leave it.
Indeed. Perhaps Theresa can employ the tried and tested method of waiting a couple of weeks, then asking the same question, ad infinitum. Well, until March 29, anyhow.
We are now royally ****ed arent we?
I’m expecting a big **** you from the eu shortly.
Aaaaaaaargh. Engage Kevin Keegan mode....
I would love it, love it if Tusk said a straight “**** off, let’s see what you’ve got, Brexie boys“ and was then filmed wiping his arse on a Union Jack.
But two problems with this. Firstly I am worried about my job and the future. Secondly, it would give the fascists some ammo to sell to their knuckle-dragging followers.
So, half an hour on from the vote, have the EU told her to **** off and stop wasting everyone’s time yet?
See above.
Well no need to wait 2 weeks, erg have their answer sack her now.
Now??? We've been royally ****ed ever since the lunatics were allowed to take over the asylum!
Majic Grandad has said he’ll pop round for a natter, so that’s all good then...
Tusk immediately said no
We all know he will fold now that May can show she has full support (terms and conditions apply. Support may go down as well as up).
She just needs to explain to him the magical new technology they are going to use.
Anyone who disagrees is a Luddite.
Any tory who isnt a ERG lunatic and voted for this should be ashamed. Its clear its just booting it down the road and is setting us up for a hard brexit.
I use "tory" since anyone else voting for it is almost certainly a hard brexit loony.
The whole point of the exercise is to blame the nasty forenners for this farce. But it's principally a Tory shit sandwich, and the first and biggest bite has to be saved for her to savour.
So, half an hour on from the vote, have the EU told her to **** off and stop wasting everyone’s time yet?
Yes both the Irish PM and Guy V have stated there's no negociations on the backstop.
This was before this evenings wast of time.
Dear EU… we don't want the all UK Customs Union backstop THAT WE INSISTED ON, we want something else.
EU… okay, how about going back to the original NI Customs Union backstop that we suggested from the beginning.
Loop 'till UK MPs understand the choice they have to make.
Ferkin Johnson now on saying he supports something he’s spent a year trying to rip up.
WHAT an expletive deleted.
We are now royally **** arent we?
Yes.
There was a piece earlier by Blair saying how we should accept the politicians are specialists in the area and hence trust them more. Whilst I would like to believe him sadly the evidence doesnt really make them look better than the average person.
Simply doing a job doesnt imply competence at it.
I was watching the debate on and off.
Some yes are definitely far better than me and more are better than me although not really as much as I would like.
However sadly:
Some are morons. The disadvantage of their job selection being based around a popularity contest rather than skills demo and that popularity contest, in many cases, being to appeal to a few party members to get to a safe seat (unless they are really, really shit).
Some arent morons but only out for themselves and willing to screw the country for that job.
Some aren't morons but are ideological nutters whose beliefs beat reality so for all intents and purposes for certain subjects are morons.
We are now royally * arent we?
* ***
We are now royally * arent we?
* ***
/End of thread for me.
Don't worry this was all to be expected it was just on someone's desk.
It's done. The DUP have played the rest of the UK brilliantly.
You lot are in trouble.
Economic activity will shift, the UK will decline.
It'll be the equivalent of the street urchin with its nose pressed against the toy shop window.
It’s done. The DUP have played the rest of the UK brilliantly.
The one thing that cheers me up about it is whilst they have screwed the UK they have also screwed themselves. It will boost the prospects of NI joining Ireland.
Although I then get depressed since I suspect the ****ers will move to Britain when it happens.
Please don’t credit the DUP with anything. The Tories have ****ed this up all by themselves.
They can't do anything on their own when they don't have a majority of MPs.
They hold the balance of power. They are a single issue party, and unfortunately that issue is the Ireland question.
So yes, they can do anything.
It'll go right down to the wire of a binary crash out or remain.
There was never really any other option. Ok the vassal state I could cope with but I can't see our impotent parliament agreeing with that.
The heat has obviously not been turned up enough yet.
mattyfez
Member
It’ll go right down to the wire of a binary crash out or remain.
nah well get some minor concessions & go with Mays deal, itll be hailed as a victoy & everyone will hate it
To be fair I could cope with that, I'd trust 27 to make sensible rules rather than our shower of sorry excuses for MPs.
Hash tag taking back control, lol!
Will piss off the brexiters more than it will me. And I'll still be able to feed myself, which is a massive bonus.
Watching Newsnight the only person talking any sense, as usual, is Anne Soubry, pointing out, as if we needed it pointing out, the absolutely pitiful lack of leadership in both parties
They’re clearly both going to just fanny around until we crash out! Both paralysed by their absolute cowardice and their utter incompetence
nah well get some minor concessions & go with Mays deal, itll be hailed as a victoy & everyone will hate it
Dunno. Remember the extreme brexiteers really want a hard brexit so they can make the best profits or, for the idiots, find their dreams dont match reality but fool themselves into thinking it does anyway.
I see Boris is still playing the "they need us more than we need them card" as why the EU will renegotiate.
FFS!
is Emily maitlis a Nigel Mansell fan?
Chatting to some Brit OAP's over here in Spain and they are horrified to hear that despite being promised that "their free Spanish healthcare will not be effected whatever happens" they may now lose it in the event of a no-deal Brexit.
I pointed out to them that lots of Brit OAP's voted for Brexit, but that didn't seem to help.
Most of them use frequently and rely on the free healthcare they get here and a lot of them won't be able to afford private healthcare.
^^ Seeing that interview with Boris cheered me up a bit.😆
Boris's response "It takes 2 to tango". Well, uh, yes.
"dissonance
We all know he will fold now that May can show she has full support"
Remember when she thought having an election would give her a strong hand and they said "You do realise that everyone in the room is either a democratically elected head of state or a waiter?"
It’ll go right down to the wire of a binary crash out or remain.
No it won't. It'll be an extension of A50 and yet more delay tactics. It's all they've done for two and a half years, no reason to change a winning formula now.
Its a gambit to delay Brexit until after the European elections in May when its widely expected that the EU will get a kicknin from the European euro sceptics especially in france from the gilet jeunes imho
Chatting to some Brit OAP’s over here in Spain and they are horrified to hear that despite being promised that “their free Spanish healthcare will not be effected whatever happens” they may now lose it in the event of a no-deal Brexit.
What I’m hearing from my outlaws is that if you’ve got your Residente Permanente Your fine.
I’m with cougar with the delaying tactics thou , they’re desperately hoping something will come up and get them out the mess, just more plate spinning
ffs they agreed the backstop more than a year ago then immediately started reneging, no ones going to trust these shysters.
That, wicki, is why it's dangerous to play games with Macron, Merkel or any other non-extreme right leader at present. What could be better for them than a hard Brexit and Britain going to the dogs? Possibly remain, just possibly.