"I know plenty of retired people living in Asia and they pay for cover. Not a big deal."
As a matter of interest, does anyone know how much it costs for comprehensive(*) medical cover?
(*) I mean really comprehensive, not the sort that excludes pre-existing conditions, incurable illness etc and generally uses the NHS as a backup.
Well perhaps France is the new model?Macron/Phiippe promising tax cuts for the wealthy, public sector pay freezes, higher fag prices, and moves to cure France's addiction to debt.
France has a way cooler leader than we do. Sad but true. Can we ask him to come here?
Brexiters showing their true colours, honestly wtf has that phrase in their lexicon that they'd accidentally drop it in a conversation?
http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/uk_59638608e4b02e9bdb0e2c77
My gran...
Edit. ^^^^ that's not my gran.
Macron/Phiippe promising tax cuts for the wealthy, public sector pay freezes, higher fag prices, and moves to cure France's addiction to debt.
Is the UK with its private debt any better???
I can't see the problem. That kind of language was perfectly acceptable in 1952. And that's where they're taking us, isn't it?
It's political correctness gone mad. Not to worry though. Only 18 months now, and all that kind of thing will all have been just a bad dream
I can't see the problem. That kind of language was perfectly acceptable in 1952. And that's where they're taking us, isn't it?
Surely its further back than that? I mean [url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40556872 ]this guy[/url] like many of his ilk still have the empire mindset. More than enough reasons to pull the schools and universities they are educated at to the ground.
Moderators asked me to report more a while back.
Hmmmmm 🙄
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I can't see the problem. That kind of language was perfectly acceptable in 1952. And that's where they're taking us, isn't it?It's political correctness gone mad. Not to worry though. Only 18 months now, and all that kind of thing will all have been just a bad dream
Yeah, and kids be allowed to use the proper lyrics for eeny meeny as well too. Not that they'll dare to play games, what with the return of the birch (nevva did me any 'arm etc. etc.)
Apart from the economic holocaust a hard Brexit will cause, this is the thing that pisses me off most about Brexit. How utterly tosserish a lot of the 'taking back control' tub-thumping is.
Still, I still think it is either not going happen (less likely) or it will happen and will be so watered down it won't make any actual difference.
Then all the prats and blowhards can go **** themselves.
Apart from the economic holocaust a hard Brexit will cause, this is the thing that pisses me off most about Brexit. How utterly tosserish a lot of the 'taking back control' tub-thumping is.
What pisses me off, sf what it actually means. Does the average Express reader actually think THEY will be taking back control???
I don't think there's been much thinking going on at all from the Express and Mail reading fraternity
But when reality dawns on the senile old giffers who voted for it that their dream of a resurgent empire is just that, [url= http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/brexit-riots-would-be-shittest-riots-ever-20170710131459 ]expect trouble![/url]
Hard Brexit. The IMF published their revised forecast. It's pretty decent really considering they assumed not a single new trade deal of which in fact there will be many in the months following April 2019.
Anyone see Turnbull's comments today ? "we're Australians we get on with stuff" take note at the EU 😀
DrJ the majority I know retired in Asia do so as they don't have a lot of money and it's much cheaper to live there. They don't have major medical cover you describe, if they get really sick they will buy a flight to the UK and get treated here.
Brexiters showing their true colours, honestly wtf has that phrase in their lexicon that they'd accidentally drop it in a conversation?
Really, who says that and thinks it's ok / normal?
I once worked for a company owned by an Asian family. All of the board - and in fact, a large number of the employees - were of ****stani descent. I was in a meeting one day with a hot-shot new Sales Director who'd just been taken on, when he dropped "well, just to chuck another **** on the woodpile..." into conversation. He carried on talking regardless whilst the rest of the room exchanged awkward glances. That was the last time I saw him (I can only hope he was merely sacked).
Moderators asked me to report more a while back.
Hmmmmm
's true. Well, sort of. We (I) didn't suggest he reports "more" but rather he reports posts he finds objectionable. Third-party offence is challenging to moderate.
and kids be allowed to use the proper lyrics for eeny meeny as well too
The "proper" lyrics almost certainly aren't racist, that was a later corruption. We've discussed this before:
http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/a-new-low-for-the-professionally-outraged#post-8306322
[i]There's a variation of the rhyme which contains the word "****," but there's dozens of other variations too and there's nothing I'm aware of to suggest that this one was its "origin."[/i]
Hard Brexit. The IMF published their revised forecast. It's pretty decent really considering they assumed not a single new trade deal of which in fact there will be many in the months following April 2019.
Ok.
1) Have you got a link for that please? Just so we're working from the same source when discussing this.
2) What are these "many" trade deals? Who with?
3) Is there any indication that these trade deals will be better than remaining in the EU with the deals we already have, or is this just a "we might not be as severely ****ed as we thought" scenario?
in fact there will be many in the months following April 2019.Anyone see Turnbull's comments today ? "we're Australians we get on with stuff" take note at the EU
Jambafact !
Japan–Australia Economic Partnership Agreement
Took 7 years
China–Australia Free Trade Agreement
Took 9 years
Australia–United States Free Trade Agreement
5 years (first proposed after ww2 tho)
ASEAN-Australia-New Zealand Free Trade Agreement
Joined after 24 years
Etc etc
More to the point aren't you always saying that the rest of the world don't need trade deals is all WTO Nirvana 😉
It's either brazen lies or just delusion ?
European Medical Agency. BTW heard an interesting discussion on the radio a few days ago. The EMA is in the UK as we are Europe's leading Pharmaceutical centre of excellence. So moving the agency will be very difficult as the continent doesn't have the people and the majority of the key staff are British anyway.
Euro Clearing. Barclays chairmen pointed out that clearing is very much an economy of scale businesses. Trying to move euro clearing to Europe whilst it makes political sense will be unlikely to work economically as the other currencies / business volumes won't be there nor will the significant netting benefits (multiple currency trades with same counterparty).
rather he reports posts he finds objectionable. Third-party offence is challenging to moderate.
So I get bounced for a month for asking a question, and a threat of more banning because I said he may be thin skinned.
Yet dear old Jamba continues to troll, misrepresent, make stuff up with impunity.
Funny old world.
European Medical Agency. BTW heard an interesting discussion on the radio a few days ago. The EMA is in the UK as we are Europe's leading Pharmaceutical centre of excellence. So moving the agency will be very difficult as the continent doesn't have the people and the majority of the key staff are British anyway
Agreed we are currently a leader in pharmaceutical r&d, Brexit obviously set to change all that.
Unless you think we will be staying under the purview of the ECJ?
Perhaps someone should tell the ema a staff as I understand it they preparing to move to Strasbourg.
Kimbers I am merely reporting what he actually said, I watched a bit of the press conference. I'll get a link it was on Brexit Central 😉
Cougar May spoke to China, India, Japan, Australia and of course The Donald all of whom are keen to move quickly. Tariff free trade in cars with Japan please, they even drive on the correct side of the road. Hybrid / electric is the future and the Japanese lead, McClaren are pretty good too, supposedly Apple where interested in the tech / company for around $2bn. Get a JV going.
Will get the revised IMF link (and enough to have their app on my phone/ipad, they even apologised for being overly negative about the impacts during the campaign, not interfering politicly of course, no ... Consensus now is that a WTO Brexit may cause a period of lower growth assuming no new trade deals but we will still grow, so the cost is an opportunity one as such. of course we will never know for sure what the opportunity cost of being an EU member was given the far superior growth in the rest of the world
Yet dear old Jamba continues to troll, misrepresent, make stuff up with impunity.
Really I am never trolling, just posting that I think. As for making stuff up treat everything as "in my opinion". I don't abuse people personally or call them names, call that impunity if you like. I don't want to see anyone banned but after a bit the abuse get's rather tedious especially when people who don't even post email me to ask how I put up with it. There is a hell of a lot of "play the man not the ball" on here
Then don't say stuff like Hillary has had a stroke, when you have no proof. None zippo nada.
And don't play the victim either, that is pitiful. You know exactly what you do
. of course we will never know for sure what the opportunity cost of being an EU member was given the far superior growth in the rest of the world
Jamba, please stop bullshitting
Pick a country that's either not developing or a tax haven and has better growth than us
We're about 10th on that list then
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_real_GDP_growth_rate
So I get bounced for a month for asking a question, and a threat of more banning because I said he may be thin skinned.
#Pigfact
The "question" you asked was "are you just a little bit thick as mince?" directed at another forum user, which was clearly intended to be an insult however weaselly you phrase it.
You weren't banned for a month for "asking a question," you were banned for a month because you've been warned multiple times about making personal insults and so it's cumulative damage. This includes a previous ban which clearly made no difference, yet still you persist.
Yet dear old Jamba continues to troll, misrepresent, make stuff up with impunity.
It's not policy to censor opinion irrespective of how misguided that opinion may be, and for all Jamba's... contentious views I can't actually recall a time where he was offensive or abusive to another forum member.
Alternative facts are not a crime!
Cougar May spoke to China, India, Japan, Australia and of course The Donald all of whom are keen to move quickly.
I'm not convinced that you can directly extrapolate 'May spoke to a country representative who is keen to move quickly' into "there will be many [trade deals] in the months following April 2019." People talk to people all the time.
And as I said before - are these likely to be better than the deals we already have?
Tariff free trade in cars with Japan please
Um... we just got that like last week via the EU and yet with Brexit we're going to opt out of it? How's that work then?
If it's taken 40 years for Europe to negotiate a deal with Japan, how long is it likely to take a rainy European cul-de-sac to broker a similar deal (or indeed any deal at all)? You reckon our corner shop is going to have the same bargaining power as Tesco?
Will get the revised IMF link
Thank you.
Pigfact genius 😆
You may call it weasely, bit harsh from a mod who can weird the ban hammer.
I was going to edit the weird to wield but quite like the image of a weird ban hammer
And don't play the victim either, that is pitiful.
He wasn't playing the victim, he was replying to your accusation.
(In the spirit of the thread I suppose he should just accept he's lost, shut up and get on with it...)
Cougar May
I've just had to swallow some sick after misreading that sentence....
Oh get off it Cougar, that is Jamba sticking out his lower lip and whining like a pup.
You may call it weasely, bit harsh from a mod who can weird the ban hammer.
Do I weird the ban hammer, or does the ban hammer weird me?
Is that any more harsh than implying that I would abuse my position in order to censor discussion, hmm?
Warnings and bans are (broadly) conducted in private. If you're going to take it public in order to make disingenuous claims about how you were unfairly treated, then I'm equally going to respond in public. If you don't like that, eh, don't start flinging mud.
It was absolutely weaselly, you posed it as a question rather than a statement so that you could go "I was only asking a question" if pulled up on it. I know this for a fact because it's exactly the sort of linguistic bollocks I'd pull if I was trying to get away way it.
BAN YOURSELF
Didn't someone just say playing the victim is pathetic 😆
that is Jamba sticking out his lower lip and whining like a pup.
Aha, irony.
Cougar May
I've just had to swallow some sick after misreading that sentence....
Deja vu.
Isn't irony allowed?
May spoke to China, India, Japan, Australia and of course The Donald all of whom are keen to move quickly.
Did she tell you that, or did they?
Isn't irony allowed?
Yes. Ironically.
It's not policy to censor opinion irrespective of how misguided that opinion
It's not the opinion that irritates, it's things like stating there are 800 000 Brits living in other EU countries. I can't find find as figure as low as that published anywhere. Even the latest British government estimates which have been massaged as low as possible state 900 000 while the UN states 1 200 000.
Looking a France as a case in point the ONS gave 157 062 earlier this year. Going back to 2005 INSEE (the French statistics office) put the number at 128 000. Now the amusing thing is that at the time the British government (edit: via its embassy) estimated the true figure at around 500 000 because "there is no obligation to register in France". The 128 000 figure is based on those offcially registered in France because they are registered with the employment and health authorities and/or have a carte de séjour. The 500 000 estimate is entirely plausible but since the Brexit negociations meant minimising the number of Brits in Europe they only count people offiially resident in France rather than including those indulging in unregistered freedom of movement.
So Jambalaya takes an unrealistically low figure that suits his agenda then knocks off 10% before posting. Check my posting through this thread. You'll find I regularly correct the figures Jamba posts with a link to the source or a credit to the source.
Personally I find repeated misrepresentation of information more offensive than Molgrips calling me a prick (hi Molgrips just an example 🙂 ). Because it insults my intelligence, it takes me for a fool and it demonstrates I'm dealing with someone who won't play fair.
He not the only one doing it. In the context of Brexit it was the whole leave campaign, and now it's the elected government (and opposition too).
Nonetheless, it would be wrong to censor that at a moderatorial* level. Rather, it becomes self-policing - people call out 'fake news'. Welcome to debate. Is it not better to challenge BS with facts than to forcibly silence those who we believe are wrong? "It's a democracy so shut up..."
(* - is that a word?)
Exactly, not calling out the lies of the right wing press and serial and practiced bullshitters like Farage, Johnson, mogg etc are how we got into this mess.
Well perhaps warning people about misleading posts and a ban for repeatedly doing it might reduce the aggro. I got an instant ban for linking three of a poster's own threads to demonstrate his own attitudes were perhaps the source of his own worries. It was considered negative use of the forum. Maybe it was, I didn't contest the ban. But if linking someone's own posts is negative use of the forum I'm pretty sure repeatedly posting incorrect numbers and mistruths in an attempt to mislead is highly negative use of the forum.
Edit: in the real world politicians need to be more accountable. Bare faced lies leading to dismisal and a ban from positions in public life.
Indeed you can instantly fact check almost anything, yet we are constantly bombarded with lies and half truths,on here and in the real world
Eg today Daily Mail reporter asked May about Corbyn not condeming bullying of MPs, she agreed, despite corbs having put out numerous statements doing just that.
Um... we just got that like last week via the EU and yet with Brexit we're going to opt out of it? How's that work then?
No we didn't, neither did the EU, probably best if you study the detail of what was said.
Well perhaps warning people about misleading posts and a ban for repeatedly doing it might reduce the aggro.
It would be impossible, an awful lot of rubbish is posted, Jamba gets called out because he often has a minority view on here, he is no worse than many others.
