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jambalaya - Member
We are a small scale seller of weapons to Saudi.
I think that May is trying to rectify that asap
Fox sucking up to Duterte is evidence that brexit has put paid to any vestiges of principles we might once have had
Fox sucking up to Duterte is evidence that brexit has put paid to any vestiges of principles we might once have had
Any port in a storm? Guess 'we' are desperate for trade deals.
Duerte? But we share his values. Fine chap.
Ive got absolutely no doubt that Liam Fox shares his values
Thank god we are no longer part of the corrupt and undemocratic EU and definitely not cosying up to some of the word's most corrupt and undemocratic regimes out of desperation.
^^ word.
binners - MemberBecause its pretty self-evident to anyone with anything between their ears ...
As the months ahead go by this will become more and more apparent to even the most terminally dense
It must really irritate you to know that you are unable to get your own way ... even more so because of people you feel you are so intellectually superior to Old Wise One. 😐
mooman - Member
It must really irritate you to know that you are unable to get your own way ... even more so because of people you feel you are so intellectually superior to Old Wise One.
Judge a tree by its fruit.
Brexit has unleashed some pretty nasty xenophobia, with actual deaths resulting. And we have the spectacle of Liam Fox cuddling up with his new best buddy, Duterte. Sterling has slumped, so made a giant hole in the budgets of the NHS and MoD, and the government seem to be just ignoring the effects on the economy and hoping it will sort itself out.
Meanwhile on the positive side, perhaps you could enlighten us as to the delightful fruit this tree has brought us?
Or indeed just clarify what you mean by:
if what gets delivered isnt what was ordered; it gets cancelled ... and a new order is put in
Which had at least 3 people saying: what??
It must really irritate you to know that you are unable to get your own way ... even more so because of people you feel you are so intellectually superior to Old Wise One.
It's not half done yet dood.
It must really irritate you to know that you are unable to get your own way ... even more so because of people you feel you are so intellectually superior to Old Wise One.
I'd say it's more irritating to see those who voted for Brexit come on here and re-enforce the idea that they have no clue what they actually voted for .
Ah well it'll all come out in the wash, certainly a good chapter in future school textbooks about the gradual disintegration of the United Kingdom at the hands of unchecked nationalism.
It must really irritate you to know that you are unable to get your own way ... even more so because of people you feel you are so intellectually superior to Old Wise One
People voted for a lie that will harm us and wont deliver what they expected to happen. Why would anyone be pleased?
Step back from your skinny-latte`s and crystals balls of doom ... if what gets delivered isnt what was ordered; it gets cancelled ... and a new order is put in.
What the ****itybugger??
It's not bloody Amazon we're dealing with here....
Who gave the kindergarten a say in this?!
Who gave the [s]kindergarten[/s]nursery a say in this?!
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we'll have less of that thanks! 😉
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So Brexit will strengthen the EU's borders even if it doesn't strengthen the UK's. Perhaps.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39502316
So the same people condeming the horrific attacks in syria are in the next breath planning the best way to stop the poor victims of attacks like these from entering our country..
sickening hypocrits..
@tp why do the Gulf states like Saudi, Kuwait, Bahrain, Abu Dhabi, Dubai and North African states like Morocco, Algeria, Tunisa and Egypt take so few (possibly zero) refugees from Iraq and Syria ?
@tp why do the Gulf states like Saudi, Kuwait, Bahrain, Abu Dhabi, Dubai and North African states like Morocco, Algeria, Tunisa and Egypt take so few (possibly zero) refugees from Iraq and Syria ?
[url= http://www.huffingtonpost.com/anhvinh-doanvo/europes-crisis-refugees_b_8175924.html ]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/anhvinh-doanvo/europes-crisis-refugees_b_8175924.html[/url]
EU Parliament / Democracy. Yup they had a vote and talked about "red lines" but the EU Parliament will have absolutely no contact with the UK. All they will do is vote on the deal presented to them by the EU Comission. Isn't that exactly what Sir Keith, Lib Dems and the SNP have been compaining about so bitterly with regard the UK Government ?
@tp why do the Gulf states like Saudi, Kuwait, Bahrain, Abu Dhabi, Dubai and North African states like Morocco, Algeria, Tunisa and Egypt take so few (possibly zero) refugees from Iraq and Syria ?
Turkey
Lebanon
Jordan
Saudi
UAE
Iraq
Kuwait
Egypt
Algeria
Quatar
LibiaAll take more than the UK.
According to:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugees_of_the_Syrian_Civil_War
To be fair we have committed a huge amount of aid to refugee camps, second only to the US. The question is whether it is better to keep them closer to home or not? Our government has felt it is.
the EU Parliament will have absolutely no contact with the UK
They would if people wrote to them.
jambalaya - Member
EU Parliament / Democracy. Yup they had a vote and talked about "red lines" but the EU Parliament will have absolutely no contact with the UK.
Except of course some of the EU parliament are from the UK including your own Dear Leader.
All they will do is vote on the deal presented to them by the EU Comission. Isn't that exactly what Sir Keith, Lib Dems and the SNP have been compaining about so bitterly with regard the UK Government ?
Not quite. They, very sensibly, were asked what they wanted from the deal and answered. Whereas our own parliament have been told to stay out of it by May and her 3 Brexmigos while being bullied all the while by the rabid Brexy press.
But hey, it's been a good week for remain as the Brexies march from faux pas to cockup.
Life is good.
Guess the one benefit of brexit is that farage will no longer be able to attend the EU parliament, and won't be able to embarrass us.. an utter arsehole of a man, what he is still doing there, I've no idea..
@tp why do the Gulf states like Saudi, Kuwait, Bahrain, Abu Dhabi, Dubai and North African states like Morocco, Algeria, Tunisa and Egypt take so few (possibly zero) refugees from Iraq and Syria ?
I'm not convinced I want to measure our level of humanity against Saudi or some of those others to be fair.
@tp why do the Gulf states like Saudi, Kuwait, Bahrain, Abu Dhabi, Dubai and North African states like Morocco, Algeria, Tunisa and Egypt take so few (possibly zero) refugees from Iraq and Syria ?
Dunno, but I'm sure Theresa brought up the subject on her trip to see the Saudis, and they will be changing their ways forthwith, just as soon as they have quit bombing Yemen.
Seaso Farage is representing the people who elected him. That's his job until 2019. Them he'll be drawing his very generous EU pension.
That's his job until 2019. Them he'll be drawing his very generous EU pension.
dont be silly a highly principled brexie like farige would be honour bound to refuse such payments
@mrmo hopefully the EMA's 25 year lease in Canary Wharf has an expensive break clause or ideally none at all. Employees at EU institutions like EMA benefit from super low taxes. No loss IMO.
another roaring success for the brexiters
the dumbing down of the UK continues apace
[url= http://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/idUKKBN1771XM ]The €322m/year European Medicines Agency (EMA) and its ~900 staff prepare to leave London...[/url]
On what basis @kimbers, as a "highly principled Brexie" he's contractually bound to receive them and so he will.
For all the gibes at him here and in Brussels he has almost single handedly delivered the Referendum and Brexit. Phenominal really.
Staggers me how many European politicians thought we would not actually leave/trigger A50 and how many think we will rejoin. The EU's (public) responce to Brexit is even more EU integration which even the Remainers said we didn't want.
Kimbers mrmo already posted that
Ooh we are cosying up to Russia now 😕
I'm a remainder. I want it.The EU's (public) responce to Brexit is even more EU integration which even the Remainers said we didn't want.
http://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/idUKKBN1771XM
My partner works in pharma and says loss of the EMA is a very serious blow to the UK's industry, will beyond the immediate loss of 900 (properly paying tax contributing) jobs.
*ing Brexie ** who can't add 2+2. Makes me effing angry. Sit tight in your poxie little ghettos as the walls go up around you and your kids opportunities are blighted (at least, the ones you've bothered to educate - mostly you haven't have you?), idiots.
Sorry must have got out of the wrong side of bed this morning! Hello all!
Thanks to igm for the optimism, really helps.
The EU's (public) responce to Brexit is even more EU integration which even the Remainers said we didn't want.
We didn't I think, but if forced to choose between that and walled into Wangland with the quitters in charge - which seems to be the alternative - I'd go for the integration and FOM any day.
My partner works in pharma and says loss of the EMA is a very serious blow to the UK's industry, will beyond the immediate loss of 900 (properly paying tax contributing) jobs.
its OK because jambs and his hero farige got the oldies out to vote and theyve all shafted the young remain voters and they now have fakecontrol of their smaller, weaker, less influential Britain, phenomenal, indeed.
jambalaya - Member
Kimbers mrmo already posted that
let me guess, you still have no response to it?
Jamba knows that this is all starting to collapse just like the forecasts said. But just like housing booms or dotcom booms you can't say anything or it'll just come crashing down around your ears.
The boy ain't daft.
Me? I want a swift collapse that gives us time to say "us? Leaving? No, must have the wrong country" before we're committed to the carnage.
Remember the boiled frogs and burning platforms beloved of 90s management training courses?
No loss IMO.
So what's the positive spin on this one?
For all the gibes at him here and in Brussels he has almost single handedly delivered the Referendum and Brexit. Phenominal really.
You've got to be joking?!
Tory Eurosceptics got nothing to do with it then?
My partner works in pharma and says loss of the EMA is a very serious blow to the UK's industry, will beyond the immediate loss of 900 (properly paying tax contributing) jobs.
That can't be true! jamba says it'll be fine!!
[quote=nickjb ] The EU's (public) responce to Brexit is even more EU integration which even the Remainers said we didn't want.I'm a remainder. I want it.
Me too
Employees at EU institutions like EMA benefit from super low taxes. No loss IMO.
I think that brilliantly sums up the ignorance of Brexiters
Completely ignores the loss of reputation for the UK science and pharma industries.
More than that it will harm our own access to new medicines, the Ema has worked closely with the NHS regarding pricing and access for drugs.
Now all these functions will have to be performed by our own Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency which will be forced to expand to cover them demand, however with the loss of the unified European market regulations will take longer to approve, 6 months to a year longer in similar countries like Canada, suspension etc, ,(turns out testing new drugs is complicated stuff) we are ,3% of global drug sales rEU is 22% so obviously mrha we will be a lower priority for them.
Good news for the EU country that manages to secure it though, jambs may find it hard to believe but plenty of countries are vying to have all those tax dodging lawyers, scientists, medics and experts contributing to their country