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Danny. No. I don’t give a monkeys left testicle about the non story. I have no “lie to parrot”. Sorry to disappoint
I'm not disappointed - why would I be when I've clearly won this round? (Throwing hands up and exclaiming non-story doesn't answer the question - the reason you have done this is because you know what was going on, but refuse to acknowledge it because it doesn't fit in with your narrative).
So the Tories contempt for voters - a government that argued for remain, accepts the decision of those who disagreed and has now committed to delivering their promise. Odd defition of contemptNow if they had said, “sorry we were only pretending and never intended to fulfil the propmise especially since you plebs are too thick to see through the lies. The whole things off. Tough.” Then you might be on to something
That's a non-sequitur and an obvious one at that. Unconvincing.
Every announcement seems full of contradictions.
Apparently a transition period has to be set out early to be useful for business.
But it can only be confirmed once we have our "unique deal" which will be at the last minute.
WTF?
I also liked the bit where DAvis said MPs can vote on the final Brexit deal..... after Brexit has already happened !?!!?
A lot of folk seem to think it already has happened Kimbers
Congratulations Danny, your chocolate watch is in the post
HoratioHufnagel - Member
Every announcement seems full of contradictions.Apparently a transition period has to be set out early to be useful for business.
But it can only be confirmed once we have our "unique deal" which will be at the last minute.WTF?
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WTF indeed. I suspect this might be symptomatic of the fact that no one has the first ****ing idea how to actually make this pointless fiasco happen.
Brexit, conceived by cynics, voted for by idiots, implemented by halfwits. Bag of shite.
teamhurtmore - Member
Congratulations Danny, your chocolate watch is in the postPOSTED 16 SECONDS AGO # REPORT-POST
Awwww. Thanks [i]mate[/i].
You try so hard that to receive such an accolade from someone I almost want to believe in after all their effort just makes me so proud.
Like everything else promised by Brexiteers, it'll be hollow.
Always happy to oblige danny
dannyhBrexit, conceived by cynics, voted for by idiots, implemented by halfwits. Bag of shite
Couldn't have put it better myself.
teamhurtmore - Member
Always happy to oblige dannyPOSTED 10 MINUTES AGO # REPORT-POST
You're wonderful.
It's very difficult to admit you are wrong, so big man-hugs for you, my friend.
Respect.
What would happen if it was shown that Putin tried to influence Brexit?
Nothing I suppose as Tories could never admit they've been played
Newsnight tonight looks into Aaron Banks...
https://www.opendemocracy.net/uk/brexitinc/adam-ramsay/how-did-arron-banks-afford-brexit
And don't forget the Brexit/trump/Ukraine bots
https://www.byline.com/column/67/article/1906
Why would you imagine Russia was not involved. States have messed around in each other’s affairs since time immemorial. We are past masters at it
They even manage to convince people that Brexshit is a one party issue in order to keep the government unstable.
Like £350m, people fall for it !!!
Nazdarovya !
Brexit is a one party issue while one party is in power.
It doesn’t matter which.
The others get to sit back and laugh.
Welcome to Brexitland politics.
More enemies of the Peele have been identified
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The Mail had to go and do it's own dirty work rather than follow up a press release from a Brexiteer Tory. But saves the MP any more bother.
LOL! you do wonder what they're worried about...
I’m blaming Dan, Tom and John directly. Pernicious cretins shouldnt be able to hide behind the Daily Mail name.
See? That proves THM was right, the MP was only doing what any good shit-digging bile-filled eye-swivelling journalist would do. 😆
Speaking of papers, did anyone post the follow up letters in the Metro in response to "Dennis"?
Here's the original as [url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/eu-referendum-are-you-in-or-out/page/1017#post-8796606 ]posted by Turner Guy two days ago[/url]:
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Here are the replies:
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I do wonder if James realises that his two Irish coworkers are also "from the EU"?
And how would his construction business [i]actually[/i] cope if they lost 95.7% of their labourers in one fell swoop?
Starting to look like a Daily Heil sponsored witch-hunt.
There are several anecdotes about Dacre's bullying of DM employees, including shouting the C word at people. I wonder how long it will be before someone decides to call him out on his harassment of staff?
I do wonder if James realises that his two Irish coworkers are also "from the EU"?
To be fair, the rights & responsibilities of his Irish co-workers are covered under the Common Travel Area established in 1923 where us lot (probably/possibly) have extra rights over and above those of EU citizens.
teamhurtmore - MemberNow if they had said, “sorry we were only pretending and never intended to fulfill the promise especially since you plebs are too thick to see through the lies. The whole things off. Tough.”
Sounds like a dream scenario THM 😆
I agree that this is the consensus view here 😉
No comment on that DM article THM?
Do the innocent questions of an MP still seem so innocent now they've had their grubby mitts on them?
What questions? There are no questions, it's all just the remoaner treason.
I give little credence to stuff that is written in the Wail. It’s at the worst end of Brexshit BS. Is has little relevance to what is actually happening so I have little interest in the story.
The fact that the Wail has to take a non-story and splash their rebuttal/reaction over the front page tells us everything
Unsurprisingly, it obscures the real news which is rather unexciting but slightly positive. The real news not the froth is what I refer to focus on. Sorry about that.
Real news like the CBI sales index taking a nosedive?
https://twitter.com/FerroTV/status/923490042965786624
[url= http://www.constructionnews.co.uk/data/construction-in-recession-after-largest-output-fall-in-five-years/10024663.article?blocktitle=News&contentID=14653 ]This seems slightly positive, oh, maybe not.[/url]
The fact that the Wail has to take a non-story and splash their rebuttal/reaction over the front page tells us everything
Strange sometimes the more somebody tells you to look the other way the more you look at stuff
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Remember the tory party are made up of 100,000 people, mail circulation 1.5 million. So a good chance they make up a resonable amount of the membership so the bile they spout is very critical to the direction of Brexit and the way things are going.
As they said about the film Seven, some people have trouble thinking outside the box.
Wood and trees?
The key thing about yesterday’s economic data is (1) the economy had proved resilient to the BS going on and (2) the BoE will most probably raise rates in Nov. Nothing new with weakness in construction industry. The economy is slowing the only question is by how much.
Feel free to focus on irrelevant story. As I said before the real news is in a lull before we get to the next round of talks. Hence the need to create new froth to sell papers.
You are very correct about the box but would suggest that woods and trees is more appropriate
The Wail must be loving all the new readers 😉
Yep wood and tree's
Government in serious trouble, divided and a lame negotiating team
EU have the upper hand
UK has a slowing economy which is in damage limitation/escalation depending on who you are
TM is playing the captain on the titanic role
missed anything?
As for more mail readers, reading a page from a screen shot and laughing at their outrage doesn't get them a reader or any more ad revenue...
but apart from that a lurch to McCarthyism is a bad thing but well received among the SEL's that make up the members of the tory party which pushes things in the make up of the party that control Brexit negotiations.
Only takes one tree, to make a thousand matches
Only takes one match, to burn a thousand trees
I've just sent a letter to Mr Heaton-Harris, requesting the details of which MPs are a member of the secretive European Research Group, plus any minutes and transcripts of messages in the WhatsApp group.
If I'm challenged, I'll respond that I'm writing a book.
the naked gun "nothing to see here" picture is very apt as it follows 1 car crash after another after another.... 😀
Lurch to Mcarthyisn - Healdine writers need to get a grip on reality
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And the latest irrelevant story is our Foreign Secretary lying to the Poles.
Poles or Proles?
I don't think anyone can write a definitive list of who BoJo isn't telling porkies to
More responses to James and Dennis saying they (and everyone they know) voted Leave to get rid of EU nationals:
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And the latest irrelevant story is our Foreign Secretary lying to the Poles
Thats unfair after all he might not be lying to them. Instead he might have been lying to parliament an hour or so earlier when he said something contradictory.
Or given the mess the government are in he might have just change government strategy on the fly in that time.
The only way he isn't lying is if he realises that brexit will collapse and the status quo ante will prevail 🙂
But I've not seen anything to support such a level of awareness.
Those newspaper comments, as well as all the vox pops they do on the news, just confirm the overwhelming impression that every single person who voted for Brexit, while maybe not necessarily a racist, is definitely absolutely and completely mental!
I've taken Morriseys advice of late, and sort of switched off to the news now, as its universally terrible, and instead I've joined Hurty in cackling into the abyss instead. Seeing as we're being led down to the road to disaster by people who are clearly completely unhinged, who couldn't give a flying **** about impending catastrophe, might as well enjoy the ride, eh?....
If Brexit teaches us anything, it’s look out for yourself and the devil take the other guy. That’s the entire Brexy ideology in one easy bite.
Anyone disagree?
Anyone disagree?
Well obviously since your hypotheses is - to use a technical term - arsenal about tit.
What Brexit has shown us is that minority elites will try to ride roughshod over the wishes of the majority (of voters) in order to protect their minority interests
That’s entirely in line with my hypothesis THM.
Minority elites can also say the devil take the other guy.
You remember too of course the good people of Hartlepool I think it was glorying in GDP losses because it would hurt the rich but they had nothing to lose?
Brexit has taught us [b]all* [/b]not to care about the
other guy.
* there will be the odd exception to prove the rule
Not the majority of voters, the small majority of people who voted.
What Brexit has shown us is that minority elites will try to ride roughshod over the wishes of the majority (of voters) in order to protect their minority interests
Not sure it's particularly about protecting their "minority interests".
The political elite in this country are used to the more paternal role that our representative democracy expects of them. They are used to taking decisions on behalf of the voters and doing what they believe is best for the country.
So it's probably a bit of a shock to the system when the "children" rebel and say they want something the majority of government, including opposition parties and civil service, were pretty certain was not in the best interests of the country.
I guess a "parent" has two options there: enforce their will to protect the child even if it makes them unpopular, or decide the child needs to be free to make their own mistakes.
Discussion =so fo Brexit in terms of elites is stupidminority elites will try to ride roughshod over the wishes of the majority
On one side the IMF, all the major political parties on the other side, all the press and Boris,Gove and Farage
you could easily, if you wanted to be childish and dishonest, characterise just one side as the "elite".
I rather feel it shows that influential minorities - the press in the main and folk like Aaron banks - are able to manipulate the process to serve their ends by getting the majority to vote for self harm, propped up by outright lies. Its not the sort of thing I wish to defend as an beautiful example of democracy in action
David Davis tells a parliamentary committee that Mrs May and the rest of the cabinet have not read the Whitehall reports on the impact of Brexit. Apparently they've only read the summaries.
Wouldn't want to get bogged down in any detail eh? Not like it is important or anything. 😯
What Brexit has shown us is that minority elites will try to ride roughshod over the wishes of the majority (of voters) in order to protect their minority interests
That's pretty dumb, even from you
What Brexit has shown us is that minority elites will try to ride roughshod over the wishes of the majority (of voters) in order to protect their minority interests
Also shown that a bunch of minority elites will never waste an opportunity to shaft the population at large, whip up xenophobia and racism, lie, extort etc.
Obviously CA, wikileaks, breitbart, putin, etc can't have been tampering with the election because we are British and we do the best elections in the world...
The British government’s attempt to lobby individual EU leaders in the run-up to the recent crunch EU summit, where member states were to judge the progress of the negotiations, actively damaged Theresa May’s hopes of a better outcome, the Guardian has learned.A secret plan had been drawn up under which the EU leaders would have made the surprise and highly symbolic move of stating in their conclusions on the day of the European council meeting that they would take into account Britain’s positions as they announced their intention to scope out their ideas on a post-Brexit transition period and trading relationship.
Source and your thoughts TJ?
I added the source. Its just more predictable incompetence from Maybot and the 3 amigos. Everything they do turns to shite
3 Brexmigos please TJ
Anybody think the negotiations will go the distance without the UK being caught blackmailing/bunging/smashing up the negotiating rules?
So how many of the brexiteers are amongst the 40 being hinted at of sexual misconduct.
And will May really fire anyone with her majority as it is? DUP funding falling apart, NI direct rule approaching, More chaos and apparently they are meant to be negotiating this thing called Brexit???
The Brexit department has refused to release key details about the 58 secret studies into how leaving the EU will impact the economy, saying officials need to make policy in a “safe space”.Seema Malhotra, a Labour MP on the Brexit committee, had asked to know the scope, terms of reference and state of completion of the work on 58 sectors of the economy, but the department refused to release the details under freedom of information laws.
-- https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/oct/30/government-refuses-to-release-details-of-studies-into-economic-impact-of-brexit
Yay democracy! #takingbackcontrol 😐
That's pretty dumb, even from you
Why thank you Zokes. I was always taught that it's important to tailor your message appropriately for a given audience. I am glad i succeeded there. It's a pleasure BTW.
😀
#projectfear. It's all sunlit uplands, just you wait and see.
The Bank of England believes that up to 75,000 jobs could be lost in financial services following Britain's departure from the European Union.
I understand senior figures at the Bank are using the number as a "reasonable scenario", particularly if there is no specific UK-EU financial services deal.
I believe the coke and hookers industry is also forecasting a rough few years.
Wow David Davis admitting that EU will get the better of the UK in the withdrawal deal !
Seeing is up for hard Brexit? Or just being uncharacteristically honest
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Time to get the bus repainted....
Though it's missing the costs of leaving a little with the FT saying about 5,000 more border workers are needed.
Davies admits to half a billion pounds spent of brexit already - I have counted over a billion budgeted for by various depts
British households are each more than £600 a year worse off following the vote to leave the European Union, according to one of the UK’s leading economic forecasting bodies.The National Institute of Economic and Social Research (NIESR) said it is “almost certain” the leave vote has damaged living standards and hit the growth potential of the economy. The thinktank also scaled back its expectations for growth in the UK for the next three years.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/01/brexit-vote-cost-niesr-economic-growth
A billion here, a billion there, soon we're talking about serious money.
TBF if brexit could happen and be reasonably successful then a billion here or there in the arrangement would be no big deal. The real problem is that brexit is an insoluble nightmare with no way forwards. Either those in charge of it still haven't realised that yet, or they have and prefer to kick the can endlessly down the road in the hope that something turns up or it becomes someone else's problem.
Neither of these alternatives is very palatable IMO.
Either those in charge of it still haven't realised that yet, or they have and prefer to kick the can endlessly down the road in the hope that something turns up or it becomes someone else's problem.
Oh they know, why do you think those 58 resorts are being suppressed
Oh they know, why do you think those 58 resorts are being suppressed
Because the Germans stole the towels.
Brexit is going to be an unmitigated disaster for the vast majority of us, but not all. As with the banking crisis, some will do very nicely out of it. Since that debacle, the rich have got considerably richer, while the majority have, at best, seen their incomes and living standards stagnate, and mainly fall. All while the 'crisis' has been used to slash public spending.
Tha couldn't possibly be about to happen again, could it? Surely not?
Never let a good crisis go to waste. And can anyone honestly see Brexit not becoming a fully blown crisis in the immediate future? As deadlines loom and the directionless dithering continues.
I'm now completely convinced that crashing out without a deal is their desired outcome, and that the resulting chaos will then be used as a cover to force through god only knows what!
Tha couldn't possibly be about to happen again, could it? Surely not?
What the lets take billions off the NHS and spend it on Brexit instead plan???
Who would be so stupid
Has anyone worked out what £600 per household is yet?
I reckon (seriously) that it’s about £350m per week.
Can someone check my maths?
Irony much?
Who would be so stupid
I think the UK electorate would accept the challenge
#trollingthm
😆Because the Germans stole the towels.
I actually don't think the 58 reports are being suppressed because they are negative. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure they are negative. But that's not why they are being suppressed. Rather, the reason is just that this is the nature of govt and the UK civil service, information is always suppressed in principle unless there are stronger forces to the contrary.
*munches popcorn*
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41829107
Yep, "taking back control" indeed. I wonder where the money came from? I suspect that Mr Putin knows.
there is a long list and I hope many of them discover Karma
I am Ling...
I haven't read [u]all[/u] 1022 pages, but I'd like to think UK cyclists would support Brexit, in general.
Being forced to drive on the right by the EU will cause massive carnage among cyclists. We don't want that!
Plus, as an immigrant to the UK, and doing my best for Britain to cast-off the hopeless (evil) EU, it's hard to believe that cycling in the proud country that created the Chopper would do anything but create a warm, fuzzy feeling of pro-Brexit bounciness.
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Hope all the cyclists tinkle their bells for Brexit, here!
- Ling