It's only a matter of time...
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Mefty - I mean Parliament imposes conditions on government at the time it authorises A50. Government not allowed to negotiate outside these conditions without returning to parliament.
So you hamper a negotiating team that already has a limited time to negotiate a deal, that's really smart! THe Court Case is a vanity project, won't have any significant effect.
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[url= http://www.****/wires/ap/article-3900592/UK-High-Court-rule-suit-challenging-Brexit.html ]daily fail haters[s]readers[/s] rejoice[/url]
really is there an irony in the fail bringing good news to so many who dont like the wrag?
ps i only read the headline so in the interest of sensationalizing ....never bothered to read any further
So you hamper a [s]negotiating team[/s] Bunch of moronic, right wing nutjobs that already has a limited time to [s]negotiate a deal[/s] run amock trashing the countries reputation, and economy , that's actually really smart!
FTFY
I had a gloomy thought:
Anyone want to suggest who's going to be the first to die?
Actually and factually and unequivocally attributed to Brexit?
A Muslim? A politician? A Brexiter rioting?
So you hamper a [s]negotiating team[/s]david davies crack squad of lunatics that already has a[s] limited time [/s] a snowballs chance in hell to negotiate decent a deal
Actually and factually and unequivocally attributed to Brexit?A Muslim? A politician? A Brexiter rioting?
Jo Cox?
Jo Cox?
(He is) more of a right wing nutter than it was due to Brexit.
Edit.
I think the number of Leave voters who fit this description are quite small.
and the margin of the vote was tiny, you only need a few people to change their mind and if you see the Economists polls enough people are regreting their vote to overturn the majority
I had a gloomy thought:Anyone want to suggest who's going to be the first to die?
Actually and factually and unequivocally attributed to Brexit?
A Muslim? A politician? A Brexiter rioting?
oddly i was watching something last night about britains great bridges
turns out ye olde bristolians caused a bit of a riot because they weren't happy about a bridge
we need a REVOLUTION!!!! in this country a proper people versus the governemt ruck
like when we blocked them petrol tankers in
Ironically, having a massive riot would be a very French way of dealing with things 😆
can't wait to see all these ageing Brexit baby boomers taking to the streets... before stopping in somewhere for a glass of wine.
If the Brexit referendum gets ignored - do migrants here think it will be a good or bad thing for them?
I am pretty convinced we will see things getting a lot more right wing and anti immigrant as a result if the result is not honoured.
But maybe that is the bigger plan ... tin foil hat at the ready!!
(He is) more of a right wing nutter than it was due to Brexit.
nah I reckon he was radicalised by all the anti immigrant rhetoric used by vote leave
to be fair though, riots in Brexit heartlands would cause millions of pounds of improvements.
How about we stop moaning and embrace Brexit?
The condition being that if Brexit it's a democratic wonderland of plenty & riches, the social groups that voted "out" get vastly more of the benefits than those that chose "Remain"?
Likewise, if it's a s---tstorm of broken bulls--t, those same groups are penalised to the cost of making it bearable for those that voted "remain"?
I'd go for that, if only for the S&G's. 🙂
mikey74 - Member
£350m a week, faceless bureaucrats, EU laws screwing British trade and business
S****!So they are idiots/morons, then?
Is it cold up there on your lofty perch?
If you constantly denigrate a section of society how can you possibly hope to understand it? UKIP understood it very well, they came with a simple, easily understood message and people flocked to it. £350m a week was accurate, faceless bureaucrats was accurate...adherence to EU law does cost money and time. In these things, they were told the truth, or at least a piece of it.
Remain didn't come up with a comparable, simplistic argument.
The fact that 'Doctor' Liam Fox isn't happy, is making me very, very happy in an inversely proportional sort of way
😀
£350m a week was accurate, faceless bureaucrats was accurate.
No they weren't: They were stated wrong at the time and have been proved false since, as well as being retracted by the Brexit campaigners.
UKIP understood it very well, they came with a simple, easily understood message
Banks credits the success of Leave.EU to their hiring of Goddard Gunster and their subsequent adoption of "an American-style media approach". Banks said, "What [Goddard Gunster] said early on was 'facts don’t work' and that's it.
Mr Banks. A true Gibraltararian English, tax paying, patriot.
£350m a week was accurate
No it bloody well wasn't. Nigel **** face Farage disowned in the very morning of the result.
I watched him do it on the TV. I saw his chin wobbling as he explained to Susanna Reid that it wasn't his claim so he didn't feel like he had to stand by it
The condition being that if Brexit it's a democratic wonderland of plenty & riches, the social groups that voted "out" get vastly more of the benefits than those that chose "Remain"?Likewise, if it's a s---tstorm of broken bulls--t, those same groups are penalised to the cost of making it bearable for those that voted "remain"?
Crack open the ballots, reconcile the voting slips against the register & if you voted "leave" you get a diferent tax code to pay for it all?
Crack open the ballots, reconcile the voting slips against the register & if you voted "leave" you get a diferent tax code to pay for it all?
By no means! Not individuals... social groupings, perhaps regional groupings, too. 😀
How about Nige just has to buy everyones beer, every time anyone goes to the pub? A pint for every big fat lie he told
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UKIP understood it very well, they came with a simple, easily understood message
So did some very nasty regimes in the 1930s. Just because it sells doesn't make it a good idea.
adherence to EU law does cost money and time. In these things, they were told the truth, or at least a piece of it.
A part of the truth is not the truth.
Yes, we give the EU money. BUT WE GET SOMETHING IN RETURN!
That part was overlooked wasn't it?
£350m a week was accurate
This was accurate. That's what we pay. I know we get the rebate and I know there are other figures which reduce this down to £180m, but the figure that we actually pay is correct.
No-one backed away from the figure, they backed away from the "£350m - let's fund our NHS instead pledge"
Most of you seem to forget that I'm a devout Remainer, I campaigned in Bath and Bristol to Remain and went door-to-door for months prior to the referendum. Bath and Bristol voted to Remain.
I agree that people were only given a snippet of the truth, but the grain of truth was all that was required for them to cast their vote. nothing that's been said or done since will have convinced many of them to change it. I saw this face to face, had it spat at me, was threatened in certain parts of Bristol. I think I'm fairly qualified to make a reasoned appraisal of the situation, probably more so than most on here.
£350m a week was accurate
Even Jamba readily admits that figure is nonsense and refuses to use it (and to his credit I think he only used it once).
So if the government appeal to the Supreme Court fails do they go to the European Court 😀
Remain didn't come up with a comparable, simplistic argument.
And we even had Salmond on our side - and even he couldnt out BS the BSers!!
(Apologies to Chris TT)
And you can call it a betrayal well it looks like that to me
And you can call it bad behaviour or a waste of time and money
And I've never been in favour of police brutality
But when the brexiteer comes a-riotin'
You give him one for me, officer, give him one for me.
hard to believe one man's hubris has caused such a shambolic mess. 😯
they backed away from the "£350m - let's fund our NHS instead pledge"
That's the only pledge they made 😆
Remain didn't come up with a comparable, simplistic argument.
Because it's not that simple. Which is why the leave campaign used scare tactics instead of facts.
Klunk - Member
hard to believe one man's hubris has caused such a shambolic mess.
Two men.
Farage started it, Cameron (in his desperation to get re-elected made the referendum a manifesto pledge) finished it/us.
Because it's not that simple. Which is why the leave campaign used scare tactics instead of facts.
I wholeheartedly agree, which is why such a complex issue should never have been given over to a public vote. One is easy to communicate, the other is not.
I never heard the 350 number from a brexiteer. I heard it repeated ad nauseum by remainers.
Classic case of using a debatable fact to trick your opponent into spreading the message you want out there.
Not that many remainers/leavers would have changed their mind either way if 180m had been used instead.
Which is why the leave campaign used scare tactics instead of facts.
As did Remain to be fair.
They also backtracked on the the VAT free fuel didn't they
and here is 6 more
which is why such a complex issue should never have been given over to a public vote.
At least we agree on something 
I never heard the 350 number from a brexiteer.
I never heard the 350 number from a brexiteer. I heard it repeated ad nauseum by remainers.
This is a joke, right?
If not - go and watch the Gove v Islam interview on CH4. Gove is categorical in the lies - even stating on direct questioning - that there was an actual cash flow of that amount. It was bare-faced lying. No ifs, no buts.
I never heard the 350 number from a brexiteer.
Missed this then?
