Leave votersWhat's about to improve? Genuine question. Don't give me any nonsense about making our own decisions. What will a UK government do to improve life? Actual actions please, not just the ability to do them.
The arguments for and against are over.
*dusts off birth certificates, emails french consulate*
Is it too late to register/apply for my 10 and 12 year olds?
Believe and we will achieve!
Jingoistic nonsense
Achieve what exactly? Actual examples. Not "it'll be better". Actual tangible examples. What exactly were you voting for?
Believe and we will achieve!
Yehah, lets Make AMERICA Great again 🙂 🙂 wave the flag do the dance sing the song.
How the **** do you plan to make things better
The arguments for and against are over.
Not when I genuinely don't understand what this achieves
Well, **** my old boots - remain supporters continuing to predict doom, gloom and financial meltdown? Who would have guessed?
Keep going chaps, it's clearly worked so far! 😆
@flanagal
No seriously, short term pain, long term pain, followed by more pain.
In 20 years, when we're all making plastic dog shit for the Chinese market for £5 a day whilst choking on fumes we might see full (forced) employment - but this idea that Britain is somehow some economic powerhouse just waiting to be freed is nonsense.
What's about to improve? Genuine question. Don't give me any nonsense about making our own decisions. What will a UK government do to improve life? Actual actions please, not just the ability to do them.
We can get rid of all that bloody foreign owned manufacturing and replace them with proud British empty buildings.
The arguments for and against are over.
They are ernie, now it's time for the substance that was so lacking in the campaign. Every leave politician on the TV in the last 5 hrs has been smug and happy but when pushed has no idea beyond their jingoistic slogans about taking control and making britian great again. [b]49%[/b] of the population is really keen to know
I would have thought that it will be fairly easy for Corbyn and Mcdonnell to embrace the will of the British people. After all it coincides with their own personal views until less than a year ago.
True enough, but the Labour rank and file didn't vote Brexit to reject neoliberal imperialism (or whatever). They just don't like darkies.
Yep. Feels like time to leave a doomed country.
I will find it difficult to forgive the idiots who brought us to this.
The key thing is that there needs to be a swift plan on taking Britain forward. Start negotiating the trade deals and let's move forward.
You can sit with your head in your hands OR you can believe that Britain as the 5th largest economy can prevail.
If you move back to France they can choose for themselves at 18, Julian.
Well, **** my old boots - remain supporters continuing to predict doom, gloom and financial meltdown
Aye, you're right
http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=GBP&to=EUR
Well Ben, you have legitimate reasons for another crack at independence now. Look on the bright side.
Yes, we'll get our independence - but I'm truly sad for the rest of you.
Yeah, come on leavers: tell us, without using the words Britain, make, great, back, take, or independence, what will now happen to make things better.
@Ninfan post again in 2 hours when the markets open about "doom and gloom" and I'll remind you about this in 6 months, and 12 months and 2 years from now and 3 years from now and we'll see whose right, every single economic expert in the world or you?
Yes, because analysis of short term market trends always leads accurate prediction of the longer term effect of events 🙄
I'm feeling somewhat embarrassed to be British (English) this morning.
What a narrow minded, xenophobic, selfish and ignorant little jumped up nation we are.
Had the 5th largest economy, had.
Had when we were in the EU.
We're still in the EU.
Are they the same ones who didn't see the crash coming in 2008?every single economic expert in the world or you?
Markets love certainty and the status quo and that's why they have slumped. Especially, considering remain thought they had it in the bag.
Scot referendum is now null and void, whole thing was predicated on being in the EU.
spot on ninfan BUT the UK just signed up for a minimum of 2 years of complete uncertainty. Which would be all resonably assements mean very little international investment in that time. Most UK based and owned businesses will not be able to plan due to the uncertainty so that will impact on investment and stability.
On the plus side the currency has dropped so exporters will be happy
just a shame we import more
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Pushing up CPI/RPI/Inflation in the short to ----- term
Once it's all sorted out 2-5-10 Years? (Many interviewed today were not keen to go into any of this leave stuff too hastily) then the UK can certainly take it's place in the world and stride forward, somewhere around 2025.
I'm sure the UK will protect it's own workers though, just maybe not their jobs.
see martin mcguinness calling for a border poll too.
People of the uk, I wish you the best of luck with Ian Duncan Smith, David Osborne, Gove, Nigel Farrage and Boris Johnson. You guys voted the Tories in and now looks like out of the EU.
Please don't complain when money stops coming into your communities, mountain bike trails are no longer funded and the money previously meant for Europe will now be given to Bankers and tax cuts for the rich.
Thankfully, I left the uk before this unbelievably stupid decision was taken.
Ernie is correct. The arguments for and against are most certainly over. That we are unprepared for the next phase is a tad unfortunate, especially given the inauspicious start. But hey ho, short term noise and all that.
Time for our leaders to step up and show us what they are made of.......
....oh eck...looks around..."leaders"........
Scot referendum is now null and void, whole thing was predicated on being in the EU
No it wasn't
Schedule 5 section 7 paragraph one of the Scotland act specifically states that the issue of EU membership is entirely an issue reserved for UK parliament.
What the Scottish referendum [b]was[/b] predicated on, however, was that it would be a once in a generation, perhaps even a once in a lifetime, event.
At least the sun is shining, the world still spins on its axis, my dogs are still pleased to see me.
Time for a run and to escape reality for an hour
I expect the arguing to be fuelled not only by the way the vote went, but by the fact certain people haven't been to bed since Wednesday night 😀
That and my minions are currently busy with the eraser in cornwall and exeter
Well Ben, you have legitimate reasons for another crack at independence now. Look on the bright side.
Can you wait until I'm sorted and over the boarder before you cast off? **** me, I guess in my heart of hearts the [s]British[/s] English & Welsh public would nause things up as they have an excellent track record for poor judgement but that was still a surprise.
It's going to be really interesting to see where we go from here. Very few of our current crop of politicians actually want this and those that did wouldn't be trusted looking after the stationary cupboard.
Desperate need for some leadership..Camerons a dead duck, Boris a nutjob, Corbyn uncompromising and no one on the horizon.
Sturgeons the only credible one, shame the weathers so grim or my bags would be packed.
That's a shame you feel that way.What a narrow minded, xenophobic, selfish and ignorant little jumped up nation we are.
Amazing how no one in the leave campaign can give a real example of what will improve. They'll sit back expecting the politicians to follow through on a set of non existent promises.
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Haha. That's the funniest thing I have heard.Sturgeons the only credible one
This situation calls for a Miliband.
No...not that one, the other one who kinda looks like matey out of Prison Break.
That's a shame you feel that way.
Listenting to some of the jingoistic hysteria being whipped up about immigration and the opression of the UK by foriengers by the people interviewed on the BBC it is a shame but it's well founded.
The remain guys were head in hands trying to explain facts on these issues. Then one dozy old tory shoe horned in "and of course the rise of the Germans"
Most UK based and owned businesses will not be able to plan due to the uncertainty so that will impact on investment and stability.
Yes, and this will mean they won't sign off the kind of projects I work on, which puts my job under threat.
Control is an illusion.
Between currency and market losses I'm the value of a nice new car poorer this morning, and that despite going into the Brexit pound and equity light, and I don't even live in the UK. It doesn't matter to me, I doubt I'll spend it all before I die.
One in fourteen jobs in the UK is in financial services, check out the share prices of those companies if you want an idea of how much pain they are feeling this morning.
Scot referendum is now null and void, whole thing was predicated on being in the EU
No it wasn'tSchedule 5 section 7 paragraph one of the Scotland act specifically states that the issue of EU membership is entirely an issue reserved for UK parliament.
What the Scottish referendum was predicated on, however, was that it would be a once in a generation, perhaps even a once in a lifetime, event.
yes it was: a state seceding from the union would not have been allowed into the old EU, so out would have been all out: what odds on that situation being reversed now?
So let's see what "taking back control" looks like.
(We're ****ed, aren't we 🙁 )
I await the results of the referendums in other member states !
@Flanagaj it's a myth no one saw 2008 coming, everyone in economics, banking and finance saw 2008 coming in 2007 - those institutions that could save themselves did and those who couldn't fell they can move with a few key strokes I seconds - but it was the public that suffered, the public didn't see it coming and what could they do if they did? You can't sell your job and buy a more secure one in a different country the same day.
The same thing is happening now the Asian market has seen the crash already and have abandoned us, London has seen it too and in 90 mins will abandon us, as will the Americans. They'll be out of the U.K. In minutes and yeah they might lose a bit, but that's life, for us the pain will last much longer.
interesting times, lets see just how far the Pound is going to tank and how high inflation will go?
And curious to see who politicians and media are going to blame now?
Time to send off for the Irish Passport.
