On behalf of other makems, I wish to make it clear that not all of us are that thick. Some get to share the collective brain occasionally.
I do think it would need something significant like Nissan announcing their relocation to get it into people’s heads what this is going to mean.
I do think it would need something significant like Nissan announcing their relocation to get it into people’s heads what this is going to mean.
Nissan warned of uncertainty if leave won yet Sunderland was one of the largest majorities for leave.
a price needs to be paid, Brexit needs to hurt, it needs to **** up peoples lives, sorry remainer folk (me included) but this thing has got to be painful.
Otherwise the Daily Mail, Jacob, Boris, Tim Wetherspoon et al will perpetuate the bollocks, it has to be laid bare for what it is.
We need to get to the point where there is no one left to blame...
WTO bring it on.
Whats happened to THM?
Boarding bob - IIRC there is a way of blocking PMs from people
Is that the brexit strategy? To bribe every multinational company to stay by stealing money from the public purse to the detriment of public services?
Well that and massive tax cuts for the city and any large donors... plus you can always buy support from the magic money tree. Don’t worry we can always borrow more, no one will stop us we are not Greece
there will be open “partnerships” for public services. Sold to the highest bidder, run for the lowest cost and squeezed for the highest profit. Usa stylee
Sold to the highest bidder, run for the lowest cost and squeezed for the highest profit. Usa stylee
Its the hard right idea of a mixed economy. Lemon socialism.
Socialise the costs and privatise the profits.
Boarding bob – IIRC there is a way of blocking PMs from people
Profile - Settings - Message Privacy and then add who you want to block.
THM, stop sending me PMs.
Wow, I’d always thought he was a bit weird, but even by his Mitty standards, that’s properly tragic.
a price needs to be paid, Brexit needs to hurt, it needs to **** up peoples lives, sorry remainer folk (me included) but this thing has got to be painful.
I think you have told us before that your are fairy well insulated from all of this. The stick never works.
Boarding bob – IIRC there is a way of blocking PMs from people
Done, cheers. (and you Drac)
I just re read my last post, I owe you an apology hot fiat, I didn't mean to refer to you directly, I was referring to the people of Sunderland in general. Sorry.
You're welcome. I've asked for a feature to be implemented to hopefully stop banned members from sending private messages.
@mattyfez absolutely no apology needed. We really are a town of knuckle dragging morons. I thoroughly despair at the stupidity.
Wow, I’d always thought he was a bit weird, but even by his Mitty standards, that’s properly tragic
He sent me a few when he was banned/on hiatus. All deleted. Weird chap
Q: What and which car parts do you think UK is making for BMW?
Drac : "Minis and Rolls Royce engines."
Binners "… and right on cue one of our resident brexiteers pops on to disprove any theory that they’re all clueless and go about their business unencumbered by anything discomforting to their fantasies … such as the real worldl.
You’ve noticed these around, right…..? Guess where they’re made? Clue…. not Dusseldorf…."
Rolls-Royce eschews British-built V12 engines
The 2014 Mini Cooper Is The Future Of BMW
^^^ Unless your source is much more accurate then the above car experts I rather trust these two articles.
As for Jaguar Land Rover ...
Financial times ... not sure if you can access it.
According to FT, the simple parts are UK sourced (looks low tech to me) while the rest of the important parts are manufactured in Germany, Czech Republic, Hungary, Ireland, France and Poland.
😀
Yeah I use ones from this year.
I got the creepy THM PM treatment too claiming he'd found a better No Homers forum that I wasn't invited to- I just told him to **** off, then he moved on to just casually dropping in "I know where you work" so thanks for the guidance on blocking. I feel sorry for the guy but I don't need to be dealing with that sort of thing.
People who's live are worse than ever want change, They saw Blair's Labour and now they are seeing Cameron/May's tory party and nothing is getting better so the government is not the answer for them.
May as well give Brexit a go as it can't be any worse can it...
What is of interest though, is when the fudge comes, as it surely will, how will the people react? I have no idea, it could be anything from an apathetic shrug to all out insurrection.
I don't see any mystery here. Most "people who voted for Brexit" will rect by looking for the next person or organisation to blame and a few someone's will emerge to blame the new "reason". You can even take a punt at these.
A stunningly simple example is the WTO ... why do we have to follow THEIR rules... why do they get to screw up our economy...
Why can't 'the government' find them a job... etc. ?
Why didn't leaving the EU magically replace our fish....?
Why has the government put prices up on basics?
Why is the EU treating us like we are no longer members?
THM got banned again? what for this time?
Send him a PM and ask.
THM got banned again? what for this time?
My guess? the continual trolling and the abusive posts
I'm a bit sad about that because this place can be a bit echo chambery at times...... but that said his constant trolling was very tiresome, even if occasionally some of the detail he provided was worth reading, even if you didn't agree with it.
But continuing by pm.... that is weird. In the 'STW is a bit like the pub' analogy, once you've decided to go home because the nuisance has got a bit much, if he then followed you out into the road and continued to argue with you, pretty soon someone would give him a real world slap.
5Live is doing brexit again on the Nicky Campbell phonein. It's bloody hilarious. Radio will never be the same again after this is all sorted.
Hearing about THM and his pm's makes me all nostalgic for fred/elfin....hang on!!!
My money is on a pay-as-you-go Brexit. Not enough details sorted by crunch time so we 'leave' but 'temporarily' stay in EU while shit is sorted. We continue to pay our contribution pro-rata but have no voting rights.
A Zombie Norway.
Would that be possible?
"I KNOW WHAT I VOTED FOR......I VOTED TO LEAVE"
It never fails to astound me that there are so many idiots out there
That 5 Live 'debate' was comedy gold. It seems the conclusion is that we should just tell Michelle Barnier where to stick it and then we waltz off into the sunset to re-establish the glory days of empire. SO LET'S JUST GET ON WITH IT!!!!
What planet do these people live on?
What planet do these people live on?
Many people just turn up for work, get paid, go home and spend that money. They don't look beyond those horizons and so the massive complexity of separating us from decades of integration with the EU and then establishing a way of dealing with the rest of the world don't exist. On face value I'd expect they might equate 'leaving the EU' to something like leaving a job, a house or a partner. You just say you're going and then off you skip, heading for pastures new and a fresh new start. Simple.
FWIW I'm not saying they're "thick", it's just not something that they concern themselves with. Same as many people aren't bothered about the latest sports news.
SO LET’S JUST GET ON WITH IT!!!!
I almost wish they would. I think I'm in agreement with whoever it was above who said this needs to play out and it needs to hurt. This issue around Europe will never be settled until the idiots see the other side. At the very least it should poison the reputation of the tories for a long time and keep them out of government. Interesting that it's 10 years since the financial crisis. We're still suffering the effects of that now and think we'll still be suffering the effects of brexit in 10 years time. This time though the people won't have the bankers or foreigners to blame.
This time though the people won’t have the bankers or foreigners to blame.
They'll just blame the EU of course. For decades.
They'll try, but this time it won't wash as it'll be very simple for the rest of us to say 'but this is what you voted for'. Assuming this forum survives another 10 years, I strongly suspect we'll be here on page 10,000 saying exactly this 🙂
I've already told all the brexiteers at work not to moan when it all goes tits up and they either get made redundant or have their taxes put up to pay for the massive debts that will be accrued from dealing with the fallout.
At the very least it should poison the reputation of the tories for a long time and keep them out of government.
What, in favour of a Labour opposition who aren't opposing Brexit, despite the impact it's going to have on living standards, GDP, tax take and ability to fund public services, worker's rights, environmental protections etc? I won't forgive that absolute shower for hanging back and hoping to capitalise on the fallout.
This explains the labour position quite well I think
What would you have them do? Oppose it and kill any chances of being elected, fully support it and kill any chances of being elected, or try to sit on the fence until events swing the scales to one side or the other? I reckon the labour party are playing it just right, and evidence of the last election would seem to support that.
It's ok, we'll be the 51st state of the USA before long...
51st state
As if that's bad thing, I'd trade dreary England for sunny Californian weather and rampant gun violence. 😀
Many people just turn up for work, get paid, go home and spend that money. They don’t look beyond those horizons and so the massive complexity of separating us from decades of integration with the EU and then establishing a way of dealing with the rest of the world don’t exist. On face value I’d expect they might equate ‘leaving the EU’ to something like leaving a job, a house or a partner. You just say you’re going and then off you skip, heading for pastures new and a fresh new start. Simple.
FWIW I’m not saying they’re “thick”, it’s just not something that they concern themselves with. Same as many people aren’t bothered about the latest sports news.
Maybe not 'thick', but that's a text book definition of 'ignorant' for me.
A bit of 'becoming an adult' for me was the lesson that if you are ignorant about something it is best to keep your mouth shut and hope to sidle out of the room at your first convenience. And certainly not vote one way or another about something you haven't got the first clue about. But then, ask a stupid question........
51st state
As if that’s bad thing, I’d trade dreary England for sunny Californian weather and rampant gun violence.
Good - then Scotland and wales can stay in the EU and little England can be kept for the little Englanders
The above clearly illustrate a point that unless you have an industry that you can practice or hone your skills or knowledge on, you will not be able to compete.
Take for example, the UK car industry where UK is only manufacturing low end stuff while those requiring high technological skills are maintained by the EU side. UK get the left over when it comes to having a place to hone their skills. Yes, look at my previous Financial Times link and look at the components UK car industry are manufacturing. Those are low end stuff that even 3rd world can make.
Your children future? What future if your children cannot even have a place to be trained and to apply their knowledge when all those highly skills sectors have gone to EU. Do you think your children can simply apply to get the job within the limited large organisation that control all the technology?
You are better off having own industry that might be 2nd to others but at least your children will have a place to be trained or greater chances to hone their skills at home.
Short-sightedness is an understatement in the EU system.
All hail the killfile. 🙌
^^^ Irrelevant concept. 😀
I too think it has to hurt. And the more the better. People have to be made aware of the consequences of their actions. And that includes the nation of the United Kingdom. It will be my children’s generation that’ will do the sufferOMG
My industry has been asked to stockpile medicines. A drug I am working on NOW will not have the UK agency as primary reviewer, as we will be post March 2019 by the time review is done, so the rapporteur has been switched. Big pharma is setting aside about 100M EACH as contingency based on who knows what agreements, and leaving the EMA.
Meanwhile I’m sat in a sunny holiday rental thinking about a foreign business consultancy, whilst drawing a final salary pension and changing nationality!
Goodness knows what will happen.