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I’d wager the Wetherspoons guy is rich, thick and racist

I don't think for one minute he's thick. He's just pandering to his customers.


 
Posted : 17/09/2018 10:30 pm
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I dont drink in his shitholes and a mate of mine got barred for ripping up his pro Brexit beer mats

Oh the irony - You couldnt make it up😂


 
Posted : 17/09/2018 10:53 pm
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Oh the wetherspoons guy is thick - make no mistake about that


 
Posted : 17/09/2018 11:12 pm
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Vince is a Muppet but 'erotic spasm' is brilliant

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45553411


 
Posted : 18/09/2018 8:27 am
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Oh the wetherspoons guy is thick – make no mistake about that

On what are you basing that?

I have a very good friend, happens to be blonde and female.. that put's on a blonde female act.

When I met her she was a single mum in a squat... now she is worth a lot of millions...

I'd guess the Wetherspoon's guy is certainly financially savvy... and the only thing interests him is if he personally can benefit financially...

He sells old beer and cheap food, this apparently makes him a top level economist worthy of TV time.

This (him) is why its a load of bollocks and lies.

Sorry just because you are rich does not make you intelligent or well informed.

He sells old beer and cheap food and people (voters) lap it up.

What he say's in an interview is not necessarily (almost certainly isn't) what he believes it is what he is saying in an interview for his own ends.

 this apparently makes him a top level economist worthy of TV time.

Most of the brexit supporters don't want to hear what economists have to say.... nor do you really need to be a top level economist to work out this isn't good for the UK's financial health.. even as the economy dives the Brexit mob will be ignoring it...  or more accurately looking for the next reason to blame.


 
Posted : 18/09/2018 9:27 am
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TJ of course he isn’t thick, there is no point in calling Leavers thick,


 
Posted : 18/09/2018 9:34 am
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I could write pages of comments and responses by leavers i have interacted with that demonstrate their misinformed, Daily Mail fed "thickness"

I have talked to people in my local community who want to get rid of immigrants yet thrre are literally none (bar the odd eastern European) in that community.

A mate of mine who doesnt believe the exchange rate makes his food and diesal more expensive (a pounds a pound)

A farmer who thinks he will get rid of all the "red tape" around his stock sales and is now shitting his pants as Micheal Gove is going to take his subsidies away.

Call them what you like but thick covers it.


 
Posted : 18/09/2018 9:54 am
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I have a very good friend, happens to be blonde and female.. that put’s on a blonde female act.

When I met her she was a single mum in a squat… now she is worth a lot of millions…

A writer, perchance?  🧙‍♀️


 
Posted : 18/09/2018 10:19 am
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I don't think that many thicko's manage to build businesses that size from the ground up. Do you know why its called Weatherspoons, by the way? It was named after one of his teachers who said he was thick, and that he'd never amount to anything. So I'm guessing some blokes on an internet forum calling him thick isn't going to bother him too much.

I suspect that he just sees Brexit as an opportunity to make even more money (jettisoning 'red tape' and workers rights post-Brexit), hence him supporting it. Same goes for Rees Mogg and the rest of them. Its all about changing the political, financial and economic climate to best advantage themselves and their mates. Pure self-interest, and **** everyone else. How very Tory.

The people who haven't realised that glaringly self-evident fact, voted to leave and are now about to get shafted by these lot?

Yep... as thick as pigshit! And deserve everything they're about to get. Just a shame the rest of us are going to cop it too.


 
Posted : 18/09/2018 12:15 pm
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Lots of very smart people voted for Brexit. To pretend otherwise is pointless, if not dangerous.

Now, having said that, let's look at one of the "hard Brexit at all costs" MPs talking us through his thinking about Ireland…

https://twitter.com/morningireland/status/1041961392318898176?s=21

Decide for yourselves whether he is stupid, or just doesn't give a shit.


 
Posted : 18/09/2018 12:26 pm
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A lot of the Hard Brexit supporting MP's, the prime example being Peter Bone, have exposed themselves as so terminally dense and totally lacking in the most basic, rudimentary understanding of how the modern globalised economy works that they shouldn't be allowed to run a stall at a church fete, never mind being directly involved with running the country!

If nothing else, its a truly damning indictment of the very expensive private education system in this country. How can you be gifted the most expensive education money can buy, yet end up that stupid? Quite an achievement


 
Posted : 18/09/2018 12:34 pm
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Vox pop on the news last night, an elderly chap was insisting that "we voted out, we should shut up and get in with it" no mention of what precisely "it" is though.

Moreover his reasons for wanting out? We can bring back the coal industry (he was clearly retired, perhaps he wants his children to go back down the pit?) and get rid of foreigners. Neither of which will be solved by voting Brexit obviously. But he wasn't challenged or asked to explain, just daft knee jerk voting for issues entirely unrelated to the referendum. God help us.


 
Posted : 18/09/2018 12:39 pm
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“we voted out, we should shut up and get in with it”

https://twitter.com/thattimwalker/status/1041805263362244608?s=21


 
Posted : 18/09/2018 12:46 pm
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Being a total prick is now something to aspire to rather than avoid.


 
Posted : 18/09/2018 1:01 pm
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I can't wait to see how the gammons react to the proposal today to remove the cap on non-EU migrants in response to the upcoming dearth of EU ones?

So... more brown people who talk funny, then? I'm sure that's exactly what they voted for


 
Posted : 18/09/2018 1:03 pm
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Mmmmmmmmmm..... chlorine chicken and smog

Given the self-serving shysters listed in that article, how could you be hopelessly naive enough to believe they have the interests of anyone but themselves in mind in this whole process?


 
Posted : 18/09/2018 1:40 pm
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He sells old beer and cheap food, this apparently makes him a top level economist worthy of TV time.

Pretty sure that's been proved to be a myth about the beer.


 
Posted : 18/09/2018 1:50 pm
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Lots of very smart people voted for Brexit. To pretend otherwise is pointless, if not dangerous.

Exactly.  The danger comes from what those intelligent leavers want to achieve from leaving (personal gain, loss of rights to workers, more taking from less privileged etc,.) and to them the game of it all.

Not many intelligent people who actually give a shit about the majority of people living in the country would have voted leave.


 
Posted : 18/09/2018 1:50 pm
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So Eu migrants contribute £2300 more to the economy than British born citizen.

Non Eu end up costing £800.

Maybe I need to ask for my money back ?


 
Posted : 18/09/2018 1:55 pm
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A writer, perchance?

Sadly no ... and not THAT many millions... though as a random connection one of my ex's used to be JK's publicist.


 
Posted : 18/09/2018 2:17 pm
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Exactly.  The danger comes from what those intelligent leavers want to achieve from leaving (personal gain, loss of rights to workers, more taking from less privileged etc,.) and to them the game of it all.

More accurately the danger is in believing them.


 
Posted : 18/09/2018 2:19 pm
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edit: WRT to EU immigrants - you'd imagine it wouldn't take much figuring out. either pay for the medical and schooling costs associated with growing your own workforce, or import someone else's at zero cost to you, and have them pay tax. even better if they go home before they become elderly - then you save money at both ends. 🙄


 
Posted : 18/09/2018 2:21 pm
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edit: WRT to EU immigrants – you’d imagine it wouldn’t take much figuring out

This applies pretty much across Brexit.

You can say the same for any religion.... which is how many of the voters view Brexit.  For many it seems to be about simply ignoring reality.

Take say flat earthers.... they can ignore fact after fact .. they can ignore their own eyes and come up with ever more exotic reasons why the earth might look curved...and how it's a conspiracy and some high priests to give them the reasons they want to believe.   Whether these high priests actually believe themselves or not is irrelevant.


 
Posted : 18/09/2018 2:34 pm
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They’re breaking cover……..

Truly terrifying. It's astonishing that when all is said and done, the end result will be that a majority of people in this country voted to be more like the US than Europe. Turkeys really do vote for christmas don't they?


 
Posted : 18/09/2018 2:52 pm
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Seeing as for a lot of the people who voted for Brexit their last significant point of reference seems to be the second world war, it's hardly surprising they fail to appreciate 70 odd years of hard-won social progress.

They might do once the post-war settlement has been completely gleefully torn up by these shower of ****s and we're all effectively had our status reduced back to pre-1939 serfs and cannon-fodder again. Back to doffing our caps to Lord Rees Mogg for fear of being beaten for impertinence


 
Posted : 18/09/2018 2:59 pm
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Should companies be cancelling Christmas shut downs, or any other coordinated staff down time, and plan to close for the weeks following our current Leave date instead? This thought prompted by the Mini plant news… seems wise to me.


 
Posted : 18/09/2018 3:03 pm
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Think positive, holidays are a lot cheaper in April than august.


 
Posted : 18/09/2018 3:38 pm
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Should companies be cancelling Christmas shut downs, or any other coordinated staff down time, and plan to close for the weeks following our current Leave date instead?

Looks like BMW are thinking just that

I'm sure everyone else who actually makes anything will be thinking the same. I know I would be.

I'm sure the Daily Mail and the Brexiteers will soon be berating them for failing to believe, and no doubt tell them they should be looking for the opportunities present in the sunlit uplands of their vacuous Brexit stupidity


 
Posted : 18/09/2018 4:08 pm
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Looks like BMW are thinking just that

What and which car parts do you think UK is making for BMW?


 
Posted : 18/09/2018 4:33 pm
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the end result will be that a majority of people in this country voted to be more like the US than Europe

We've been steadily adopting US ideas since the GIs came over with chewing gum and nylon stockings. Bloody sad.


 
Posted : 18/09/2018 4:40 pm
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What and which car parts do you think UK is making for BMW?

Minis and Rolls Royce engines.


 
Posted : 18/09/2018 4:41 pm
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What and which car parts do you think UK is making for BMW?

... and right on cue one of our resident brexiteers pops on to disprove any theory that they're all clueless and go about their business unencumbered by anything discomforting to their fantasies ... such as the real worldl.

You've noticed these around, right.....? Guess where they're made? Clue.... not Dusseldorf....


 
Posted : 18/09/2018 4:47 pm
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Radio 5 Live have just had a woman on from Sunderland who owns a nailbar, has a husband who works at Nissan, and who both voted brexit. In summary:

- She doesn't know how the EU affects her, but believes we need a change as the country is in 'disrepair', and if you don't vote for it when you get the chance, change will never come.

- The country is broken because money stays in London, too many people are coming in, and there's not enough services to cope with them

- She thinks the EU pass laws which negatively affect us, but doesn't know what the are.

- A lot of the supplies for her business come from Europe, she hasn't really thought about how brexit might affect that, but assumes/hopes she'll be able to get the same supplies from a UK supplier.

- She's not worried about her husband's job because in the time it takes Nissan to move their business, we'll probably have a trade deal sorted by then.

- She says she has no idea what might happen as a result of brexit but that 'it's a price worth paying'.

So there you go. A couple of valid points there abour regional funding/investment, underfunding of public services which have bugger all to do with brexit, and some ill-informed head-in-the-sandery. And I bet she was one of the more intelligent ones. I really do despair.


 
Posted : 18/09/2018 4:54 pm
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Radio 5 Live have just had a woman on from Sunderland who owns a nailbar, has a husband who works at Nissan, and who both voted brexit. In summary:

Yeah, I heard her too.

”...my husband works for Nissan. Yeah, he voted to leave too - he thinks it’s all just scaremongering...”

EDIT: I wouldn’t often wish unemployment on somebody, but my sympathy cup wouldn’t exactly overflow for that couple

Jesus wept...


 
Posted : 18/09/2018 5:02 pm
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You ought to listen to some of the rabid **** idiots who phone in to LBC-Nigel Farage show, every single one is ripe for a good slapping till they break down and say sorry


 
Posted : 18/09/2018 5:09 pm
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What I can't get my head around is the thought process that makes them think that the Tory party, probably then with one of the hardline Brexit headbangers at the helm, will use being unshackled from EU regulations as a perfect opportunity to improve the lives of people in Sunderland

I mean... seriously... WTF is going on in your head to reach that conclusion? Have you somehow missed the news, and everything that's gone on around you for the last 40 years?


 
Posted : 18/09/2018 5:30 pm
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What I can’t get my head around is the thought process that makes them think that the Tory party....

I can only assume that the people of Sunderland and their ilk are hoping to repeat history by voting in a socialist to provide them with the workers paradise they crave, but only after they have defeated the huns by supporting an upper class tory fascist and his imperialist fantasies.


 
Posted : 18/09/2018 6:58 pm
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Wired to a ****in beetroot.

Even the old, unionist daily mailers amongst the guys on the shop floor at work see through this pish.


 
Posted : 18/09/2018 7:15 pm
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We have JLR going to a 3 day week. Something we've not seen since the 70s???

BMW shutting a factory for a month

Where's THM to tell us the scaremongering is hyperbole???


 
Posted : 18/09/2018 7:45 pm
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BMW shutting a factory for a month

Where’s THM to tell us the scaremongering is hyperbole???

Car workers are not bankers and hence of no interest.


 
Posted : 18/09/2018 7:52 pm
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However messy it gets, just remember: it's not as bad as some people misreported that someone who's no longer even in politics once said it might be.


 
Posted : 18/09/2018 7:53 pm
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BMW shutting a factory for a month

TBH they’re bringing their summer shutdown from July to April, then it’s probably let’s see what happens next


 
Posted : 18/09/2018 8:11 pm
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Let’s see what happens next?

The cornerstone of any successful national economic strategy

Maybe that needs writing down the side of a bus?


 
Posted : 18/09/2018 8:29 pm
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BMW should get that woman from Sunderland and her husband in for some brexit planning consultancy. I'm sure it'll be fine in the end. Just like Donald Trump, you just have to hope there are 'adults in the room'. What is of interest though, is when the fudge comes, as it surely will, how will the people react? I have no idea, it could be anything from an apathetic shrug to all out insurrection. I'm sure Theresa May will be very upset at the though of Sunderland in flames.


 
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