Oh so you didn’t get past the bullet point?
Don’t know why any of you are still taking THM seriously. The chances of anyone with any economic chops misunderstanding the govt’s top secret economic analysis of brexit so egregiously is pretty slim.
Not at all, at least the bullet points.
The real issue is ACCEPTING ...
The whole thing reminds me of an arguments with a young child... like trying to explain the family pet is dead but they continue to argue .. what if we take it to the vet, perhaps it's just sleeping ...
I am puzzled that economic analysis that is widely available on the web and which we have all (mid)read is labelled top secret. Still fits the rest of the train of thought in the same post
Yesterday I was speaking to a friend who said where he works was looking to drop annual vacation to 14 days and was very surprised to see the current legislation showing the legal min of 28 days.
Of course once we're out of the EU we can overturn that and have some new employment laws that'll mean 14 days leave is a luxury.
I am puzzled that economic analysis that is widely available on the web and which we have all (mid)read is labelled top secret.
Well if that's any indication of the attention you've given it it explains a lot. "Official - Sensitive" is a long way from Top Secret.
Yesterday I was speaking to a friend who said where he works was looking to drop annual vacation to 14 days and was very surprised to see the current legislation showing the legal min of 28 days.
Get everyone to work 2 weeks more and 2.4% improvement in GDP, so reducing the economic impact by 30%! Probably buried in one of the DEXEU white papers somewhere...
Indeed pretty silly to call it Top Secret and to misquote it’s conclusions when it’s available for all
French Minister for Europe quashing suggestions that Macrons likely to offer big concessions to the UK on R4 this morning
EU were never gonna let UK collect customs etc for them, so its back to border chaos
so if chequers is dead, what bext?
Exactly as Varoufakis warned. The Eu tactic is to say one thing and then immediately deny it. It helps to ensure that no meaningful negotiations take place. See Barnier post few pages back
better get ready
Not really the 'leak' as reported to The Times of elements of his speech next month from an anonymous source just said that he didnt wanta no deal & wanted a close relationship with the EU
likewise Barnier said "a partnership with Britain such as has never been with any other third country" and everyone got excited
but he also said at the same time "It cannot be built to the detriment of who we are. The internal market, the home market, is indeed our most important asset ... We respect all the red lines of the United Kingdom. They do not want to abide by the rules of the court of justice, they do not want to follow our legal framework, they do not want to pay, they do not want freedom of movement. All of these are the cornerstones of the single market and the EU. So we have to preserve and protect what makes us.”
which is pretty much what theyve said from day 1!
look beyond the headline THM
I did which is why I wasnt taken in by it. The coincidence was interesting ie the timing but the bluff was also a risk. See my post.
Get ready
Get ready
For what? The gun we are holding to our own head to go off and hope to be consoled by Barnier having to have his suit dry cleaned?
Trouble is are we holding the gun blazing saddles or Budd Dwyer style
misquote it’s conclusions
Which bit were you quoting THM?
Barnier said “a partnership with Britain such as has never been with any other third country”
Barnier said “a partnership with Britain such as has never been with any other third world country”
FTFY.
And at no point when bluffing do you shout look at this bluff it's going to work...
Still the odd person on here that thinks Brexit's a good idea eh?!! Well, I guess the owners of the newspapers that don't pay their full share of tax still think its a good idea.
https://www.shoutoutuk.org/2017/11/14/at-what-point-do-we-admit-brexit-was-about-tax-evasion/
Hopefully at no point. You expect thickos and racists to understand the ins and outs of corporate taxation?!?
You expect thickos and racists to understand the ins and outs of corporate taxation?!?
Keep it simpme then, this lot are not paying their fair share of tax.
Who the thIckos? Why should they pay as much as the metropolitan elites? You are a so hard on these poor people. Whatever happened to empathy with comrades?
I expect you to answer a straightforward question about your source when you claimed to quote Govt research which on the face of it refutes your claim.
At least, I expected you to, originally. It seems increasingly clear that you can't.
No it doesn’t. How many pieces of broken record do you need
We’re headed for another emotional Sunday “STFU” if this doesn’t stop now.
Does a labour membership card* come with that? Lifetime or just five years?
*constituency - don’t want any ovetcounting of Jezzas success with new members
no doomsday news from press conference?
Try the other thread, when you’ve calmed down.
I’m calm, relaxed and prepared. You? Just a pity alpine rain killed the ride though
choice between le figaro’s coverage of macron’s pension reforms, peston’s WTF, Poverty Safari (why did they vote perhaps?) or STW and your deadly wit?
Did we do '1/3 of British businesses say they are being negatively affected by Brexit' ?
Did we do ‘1/3 of British businesses say they are being negatively affected by Brexit’ ?
Typical bitching and whining from them. They just need to get behind it.
Did we do ‘1/3 of British businesses say they are being negatively affected by Brexit’ ?
I have confidential papers that say they just haven’t prepared properly. I’d link to them but y’know... *taps nose.*
So is it 'let's call the whole thing off' or BRINO/vassal state ?
Our glorious leaders don't seem to be doing anything other than dad dancing in Africa at the moment...
As a dad I object to that dancing comment MattyF.
Those are just the dreadful traitorous businesses that are stopping our glorious govt from negotiating successfully. We'll be better off without them.
Still the odd person on here that thinks Brexit’s a good idea eh?!! Well, I guess the owners of the newspapers that don’t pay their full share of tax still think its a good idea.
https://www.shoutoutuk.org/2017/11/14/at-what-point-do-we-admit-brexit-was-about-tax-evasion/
Always illuminating to see how much bollocks is written on the internet, but this is right up there. I particularly enjoyed the paragraph that says George Osborne introduced the CFC regime in 2013 to help multinationals avoid tax. This is a curious conclusion to reach when it was introduced in the 1980s and it is a anti avoidance regime designed to stop companies hording money offshore. The delicious irony is that the single thing that caused the regime its biggest problems was the ECJ decision in the Cadbury Schweppes case.
As a dad I object to that dancing comment
I do apologise for stereotyping you IGM, I'm confident that you have some sick moves or throw some solid shapes ..
Or is it sick shapes and solid moves .. I can never tell.
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Cor, don't know why THM was absent for a while but the rest seems to have upset him. Whole load of built up tension being released ATM and a bit like when my son has so much to tell me that he can't get the words out quick enough.
throw some solid shapes
Well yes of course, if you’re defecating in disgust... 😂
Well yes of course, if you’re defecating in disgust…
Actually where has the self-soiled one disappeared to?
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Seems to be the case but with added bonus option of crash out with no deal.
The 4th choice is<span style="font-size: 0.8rem;"> basic Canada style fta but that doesn't resolver Irish border issues & nowhere near benefits we have now regards frictionless trade for manufacturing etc</span>
Who the thIckos? Why should they pay as much as the metropolitan elites? You are a so hard on these poor people. Whatever happened to empathy with comrades?
No it’s the one you cannot find on the web.
So not thicko's? More a bunch of people who beleive what they want to hear and are not concerned that their source say's don't worry, I/we have a fantastic plan only you just need to trust us...
I was thinking they made a movie but then I realised I was just thinking of Titanic... "sure we have the lifeboats ... we could show you but you know they are stored away".... "what iceberg?" ... and of course the "no of course we are not going to sink, keep playing"....
A while back I got an email from a Big Hitter saying I should stop implying THM was a teacher at a second rate private school, as he was in fact something BIG in THE CITY and was really quite IMPORTANT.
I’d link to them but y’know… *taps nose.*
Ah the Grimsby Times has exclusive rights.
he was in fact something BIG in THE CITY and was really quite IMPORTANT.
A sort of glorified betting shop manager, then...
A sort of glorified betting shop manager, then…
Don't be too hasty, looking at the style of grammar, it could have been a message from the Donald.
Although it's out of character for him to email rather than tweet..
Well let’s hope they don’t believe what is being peddled here in past couple of days
1. There will be a 10% drop in GDP
2. Kids will no longer be able to work overseas
3 Brexit is all about ensuring corporates can dodge tax
4. All the bankers have gone/banks have not prepared for the loss of passporting rights
5 the U.K. is bribing African states
i think we know (1) whose scared (2) why they’re scared and (3) who can read and interpret basic facts. And they call leavers thickos?!?
where’s private Fraser when you need him
1. There will be a 10% drop in GDP
You really are not very good at detecting sarcasm, are you. Either that or you're wilfully misrepresenting what's been said in order to have an argument.
I wrote that "fact", I made it up as an example of how easy it was to present any old shit as fact without providing sources (which is what you were doing and somewhat ironically just did again).
5 the U.K. is bribing African states
That was one of mine too, you've just spun what I said completely out of context in order to attack it. Again.
Are you so stuck for arguments that you've got to twist peoples' words all the time? If you're going to debate something, at least keep it honest. Otherwise it's just an exercise in tedium and we might as well just respond to your posts with "no they didn't" every time.
