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@ninfan. Despite several months of exchanges on this site, I’m still not sure if you’re a hard-right provacuer or if you’re then classic contrarian, calling out what you see as hypocrisy amongst a fairly leftist leaning forum community.

Or whether you’re simply bored.


 
Posted : 09/06/2018 1:25 am
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Unfortunately, these are not the criteria for handling complex negotiations with the EU. For them, the UK ****ting around with backstops is just not cricket. They don’t really deal in backstops. What they really need to hear is that the UK is going to have four slips and a gully, and a forward short leg. Or, given our increasingly defensive needs, everyone on the boundary, including a third man and a deep fine leg.

All we appear to have right now is silly point


 
Posted : 09/06/2018 4:26 am
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Don't worry, it'll soon be our chance to bat (2 mins on in case video starts at the start)


 
Posted : 09/06/2018 8:07 am
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This just keeps getting weirder.

https://twitter.com/DamianCollins/status/1005479652427796480

Something’s clearly up. Arron_banks and andywigmore now say they do want to give evidence to CommonsCMS on Tuesday because of story that’s about to come out about some emails - which I don’t have a copy of btw. Must be significant, to make them change their minds again

(I think at this point even the weirdness of the STW forum "formatting" has been surpassed).


 
Posted : 09/06/2018 8:27 pm
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Well there is a great Trump Smokescreen about to hit


 
Posted : 09/06/2018 8:42 pm
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It's Meuller time in the UK ?

https://twitter.com/ShippersUnbound/status/1005498543740727301?s=19

That donation via the DUP, you just know it came from vlad one way or another


 
Posted : 09/06/2018 9:11 pm
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Posted : 09/06/2018 10:25 pm
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So Mail on Sunday editor not dicking about, DM readers gonna get a shock when he replaces Dacre in September

https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1005555363087831041?s=19


 
Posted : 09/06/2018 11:35 pm
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DM readers gonna get a shock when he replaces Dacre in September

Wonder what is the overlap between the two?  From my extremely expert opinion, aka vague recollection of doing a paper round many years back, I thought most of the all week people had the sunday paper as well. Then a few with just the Saturday or Sunday papers.

The summary the Guardian (or Observer if you are being picky) doesnt look particularly good although for anyone who was already slightly skeptical about those "rebels" standing up against the "elites" not overly surprising. Question is would it dent the belief of those who have been invested in Brexit for a while or not. I suspect not since there does seem a happiness with foreign elites so long as they are properly authoritarian and dont mess around with any vague pretences towards democracy. I do wonder how those ranting about the EUSSR can manage to reconcile it though. Surely cognitive dissonance has its limits?


 
Posted : 10/06/2018 12:30 am
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So turns out Isabel oakeshott sat on these emails for 2 years, knew that Banks lied about russian contacts when she wrote his biography with him,

But after her email was 'hacked' she's gone for the Pete Townsend defence .... She's writing a book about russian electoral interference 🤔🤔


 
Posted : 10/06/2018 10:40 am
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The tides turning now. The media is shifting their stance. Chuckling at that prat THM constantly criticising us for refusing to respect "the will of the people".


 
Posted : 10/06/2018 3:44 pm
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May should bleat on about how she is willing to respect the "will of the people" but not the will of the kremlin.

A big juicy get out carrot is in front of her.

Be patriotic , blame Russia and rip up article 50.


 
Posted : 10/06/2018 3:52 pm
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May should bleat on about how she is willing to respect the “will of the people” but not the will of the kremlin.

A big juicy get out carrot is in front of her.

Be patriotic , blame Russia and rip up article 50.

I wouldn't count on it.


 
Posted : 10/06/2018 4:08 pm
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The commons votes on Tuesday should be an absolute car crash in light of this, I read that farage is under investigation by the EU for fraud and has had his EU pension frozen too..


 
Posted : 10/06/2018 6:39 pm
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Realistically it'll make no difference at all to the Commons votes on Tuesday.


 
Posted : 10/06/2018 6:51 pm
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The government might lose the "customs union" amendment (for what it's worth...a minister has to come and report on progress...) and the "meaningful vote" one, but that's probably it....sadly.  Labour are going to abstain on the single market one, in favour of their meaningless load of tosh which may not even get voted on!


 
Posted : 10/06/2018 6:59 pm
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All those trade deals are looking promising in the light of trump seeming to want to start a trade war with the rest of the world


 
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Posted : 10/06/2018 9:53 pm
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Probably not Brexit related in any way…

https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1006195566488023041


 
Posted : 11/06/2018 6:07 pm
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Oh…

https://twitter.com/jolyonmaugham/status/1006197201180286976


 
Posted : 11/06/2018 6:16 pm
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But blue passports though


 
Posted : 11/06/2018 6:16 pm
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For balance, some good news… if we can convince the EU we're serious, not saboteurs… (they might well view this as more cakeism though… I really don't know).

UK to apply to stay in European standards system after Brexit

https://amp.ft.com/content/94ef2bb0-6b31-11e8-b6eb-4acfcfb08c11


 
Posted : 11/06/2018 6:35 pm
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Back to Landrover…

As many of us have said… get rid of immigrant workers, and the country stands to lose not just their jobs (and spending and taxation) but also lots of other jobs that depend on their work…

https://twitter.com/rehaklubomir/status/1002074338386903040


 
Posted : 11/06/2018 6:47 pm
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Solihull Brexit results

68 484 leave

53 466 remain

I wonder how many of the 1000 workers being laid off voted Briexit.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/jaguar-land-rover-cutting-1000-14528136


 
Posted : 11/06/2018 6:55 pm
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Last post for a while… I promise…

https://twitter.com/sturdyalex/status/1005795569896390657


 
Posted : 11/06/2018 7:06 pm
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Bloke I know worked at Solihull for years says they were always going to do it - points at what happened at Cadburys despite years of promises they wouldn't there too.


 
Posted : 11/06/2018 7:12 pm
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A guy that drinks in my pub said...

Well, there that settles it then. 😂


 
Posted : 11/06/2018 7:33 pm
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Have you thought about painting that statement on the side of a bus?


 
Posted : 11/06/2018 9:14 pm
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How did he know ninny? Was he on the board,or prescient,or a figment of someone's imagination ?


 
Posted : 11/06/2018 9:21 pm
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All the more reason to paint it on a bus

Some better artists available though


 
Posted : 11/06/2018 9:23 pm
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Cor, even ninfan doesn’t seem convinced!


 
Posted : 12/06/2018 11:12 am
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Today's votes.

What exactly are they voting on?

Are these proper votes that Enola has to obey or mere suggestions that don't reflect the will of the people and are to be ignored.


 
Posted : 12/06/2018 11:19 am
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The main ones just seek to prevent the government ruling out a shared customs area, and to allow parliament to send the gov back to the negotating table in the result of a bad or no deal. There is also a sensible EEA measure, but Corbyn has already killed that one.


 
Posted : 12/06/2018 11:23 am
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What exactly are they voting on?

When the legislation enabling Brexit got debated in the Lords, the Peers inserted a number of amendments which would make a hard Brexit much less likely. Now the legislation comes back to the Commons and MPs vote on whether to overturn these amendments.


 
Posted : 12/06/2018 11:25 am
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https://news.sky.com/story/live-tory-mp-resigns-from-government-over-brexit-11402270

I hope a few others show some integrity too.


 
Posted : 12/06/2018 11:31 am
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I hope a few others show some integrity too.

Theres more chance of me marrying Kylie


 
Posted : 12/06/2018 11:38 am
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By the sounds of it, May is getting pretty desperate. Apparently the present line from number 10 is 'vote with me, or you'll end up with Boris as PM'

Which goes to show that despite being the most shambolic government ever to have been in office, that the previous line of 'vote with me, or you'll end up with Jeremy Corbyn as PM' simply isn't credible in anyones book

And this is being highlighted by the man himself whipping his MP's to abstain on key votes over the next 2 days, therefore spurning the chance to defeat the government, and missing the opportunity of presenting a more credible Brexit policy than the present muddled nonsense coming from the labour front bench


 
Posted : 12/06/2018 12:17 pm
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Can't quite believe how useless Corbyn is. With all what is going on, he should be on the attack on all fronts. But no.


 
Posted : 12/06/2018 1:09 pm
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Corbyn has spent his entire career, such as it is, denouncing the EU.

The Tory's are busy delivering what he's always wanted, so he's no intention of doing anything to stop them


 
Posted : 12/06/2018 1:15 pm
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I truly despair at the opposition to this government.


 
Posted : 12/06/2018 1:31 pm
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Corbyn is too blinded by ideology to seek a pragmatic solution.


 
Posted : 12/06/2018 1:54 pm
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https://news.sky.com/story/live-tory-mp-resigns-from-government-over-brexit-11402270

Whispers of a revolt, leadership challenge and more to follow Lee with numbers up in the air at the moment


 
Posted : 12/06/2018 2:09 pm
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Leadership challenge leads to replacing awful with bat shit crazy. No winners in that scenario


 
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