whats the problem?
its perfectly legal, and we have had years of exporting to the grid , where the grid has benefited greatly.
all we are doing is storing the energy we generate, and reduce the drain on the national grid.
part of this has involved our financial investment, our outlay.
£7500 solar panels - our money
£14000 EV car
£6500 Tesla battery
we did this for environmental issues, long term reduction / being subjected to increasing electricity costs.
Could have bought a diesel car and continued to pollute the local environment.
could have bought any manner of things that wouldn't have had a direct impact on the local environment, but didn't.
could have bought a flash bike , and Audi to drive to trail centres , but didn't.
its about choice sometimes.
not a pisstake....
Once they find away to stabilise magnesium in a battery, lithium ion is dead in the water and the petrol engine will follow the day after.
Magnesium is very energy dense and readily available.
It’s just a matter of time.
Interesting few phrases you use “avoidance” ? we are informed by our supplier of the possibility of a TRIAD so react accordingly as it cost our firm £600,000 a few years back for 1/2 hour we ignored.
I understood it to be us helping out NG on not overloading the grid or we got shafted but your implication is its just a pure money grab?
There has been at least 1 TRIAD peak this year at 7pm which is past what I would consider usual commute time, I get that a huge swathe of the population works 9-5 so can cope with middle of the night charging
Avoidance is the correct term but it's in no way dodgy as in tax avoidance, any energy manager worth his salt will be undertaking triad avoidance and the financial benefit is large versus the effort. It isn't really doing the grid any favours though, the charge is there to discourage usage at that time and fund investment in the infrastructure required to deliver maximum demand, so avoidance leads to underfunding national Grid if you only cut load on triad days and it isn't representative of your peak load at peak time. This is why they are reviewing the charging mechanism and currently in court fighting to get triad export revenue removed. From next year it looks like you won't be allowed to use diesel generators for TRIAD avoidance, so that will force industry to adapt to better cutting load or boost grids income.
That 7pm triad call was a pain to say the least but will no doubt be more common in the future
Thanks for that greentricky.
I'm just an engineering manager who has to deal with the day to day TRIAD stuff but I am increasingly drawn into the energy management side of stuff. This TRIAD period we have managed to drop from our full demand of 1.4Mw to 24kw for the TRIAD duration, last year it was 105kw.
Yep your right the 7pm call was a pain as though our plant is set up for 24/7 running we usually only have staff on site 6am-6pm the rest of the time its a miller & engineer on call.
The added complication is with 4 TRIADS called in 1 week each covering 2 hours in a time when we have few staff available this means we loose our 8hrs planned maintenance stop on a Thursday given a 160hr a week run time. this impacts on efficiency of the plant so actually puts a greater load on at all other times.