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Cant get away from this guy at the moment. Has 9 songs in the top 10, fastest selling album ever, been at number one for weeks...

Hes ok I guess, better than some of the other dross out there, but really???? Is this the best the music industry has to offer. Its just so bland..

What am I missing?


 
Posted : 10/03/2017 7:15 pm
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Not to my taste tbh. Mass publicity and the sheep will follow.


 
Posted : 10/03/2017 7:17 pm
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You're not missing anything.
He is bland bland bland.... which is probably why he sells so much music?


 
Posted : 10/03/2017 7:17 pm
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My God!
He has 14 of the top 15 songs!
He must be making a mint.


 
Posted : 10/03/2017 7:23 pm
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Coldplay havent released anything this month, so their fans are buying something similarly dull.


 
Posted : 10/03/2017 7:28 pm
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Gawd bless 6 Music.


 
Posted : 10/03/2017 7:28 pm
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Amen to that.


 
Posted : 10/03/2017 7:28 pm
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(A) he may well be the 'best the music industry has to offer'...but there is a world of music out there that doesn't try and fit into this world

(B) it's nice and safe. A friend told me the other day that he saw a pension age woman and her husband pick up the cd in sainsburys, and pop it in their trolley...no ceremony, no excitement, like it was a can of beans.

This kind of sums it up.

My niece filmed a video with him a year or two ago, says he was great. TBH I'd rather it was him clogging up the charts (easy enough to avoid) than many others...


 
Posted : 10/03/2017 7:29 pm
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but mostly downloads and it's not like he's selling millions of each track. Not my thing but at least he's become a famous pop star the long way rather than the cowell way


 
Posted : 10/03/2017 7:30 pm
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Pretty impressive video of the Telly Tubbies dancing to one of his tracks doing the rounds on Facebook, just to help you get some perspective.


 
Posted : 10/03/2017 7:32 pm
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Was chatting to a fairly well informed mate (his father in law has a life time achievement Brit award) last night about ES and he'd seen him a couple of times with his daughter and thought he was quite an impressive live performer


 
Posted : 10/03/2017 7:46 pm
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Is this the best the music industry has to offer.

Probably not, but he's currently the most popular.

Much the same as the Latest Harry Potter book wasn't the best the literary world had to offer, but it outsold everything else last year.

(Edit: I've seen him live and it was brilliant, his recorded stuff doesn't really impress, but his live performance, And the use of repeat etc, is very impressive.IMO)


 
Posted : 10/03/2017 7:53 pm
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People love average, unchallenging stuff. Not sure how you've been unable to avoid him, he hasn't inflicted himself on my world at all.


 
Posted : 10/03/2017 8:14 pm
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I am glad to say I have never listened to one of his songs. Have managed to dodge everthing One Erection have done too.


 
Posted : 10/03/2017 8:18 pm
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I can't hate the guy. He's not to my taste, but call him bland, yeah fair enough but he's a pop start who can actually sing, can actually play music and he writes his own stuff.

He's the credible pop star us 'real music' fans have been bemoaning the absence of for years.


 
Posted : 10/03/2017 8:26 pm
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Music for people who don't like music.
It's the sort of thing people can put on in the car, not really listen to, not have to concentrate on and reassure themselves that, hey, they still know about music.


 
Posted : 10/03/2017 8:26 pm
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Abysmal dirge. that class A team song actually made me want to OD on class A's just to ensure I never heard it again.

Bland beyond all belief.


 
Posted : 10/03/2017 8:28 pm
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I'm forced to listen to Radio One while traveling in the team car, and they played the entire album track by track when it came out, and it was really tedious, there's no light and shade, every track sounds just like every other track, and his songwriting is really very simplistic, pretty much student-level writing.
Predictably, there were people tweeting in going on about how they were feeling his words down to their soul, but there were a few, thankfully saying how unbelievably dull and samey it was.
Thankfully there are people like Laura Marling, who I saw last night, who [i]really[/i] can write meaningful lyrics and music to match, and she's only just turned 27, with her sixth album just released today.


 
Posted : 10/03/2017 8:30 pm
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^ I like the songs, can't stand the affected accent...


 
Posted : 10/03/2017 8:36 pm
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I couldn't name one of his songs or even recognise it if I heard it.
Am I culturally worse off? I'm going to take a punt and guess not? It's probably a bit like Coldplay but slightly more earnest and bedwettery?
I have seen pics of him though, he has that look of not quite believing he's still getting away with it.


 
Posted : 10/03/2017 8:38 pm
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Is he that busy ? It looks like he's never missed a meal!


 
Posted : 10/03/2017 8:42 pm
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Music for people who don't like music.
It's the sort of thing people can put on in the car, not really listen to, not have to concentrate on and reassure themselves that, hey, they still know about music.

This is the sort of "I'm superior" claptrap that people always spout about any music that's popular.

Why do you consider it "better" if you have to really concentrate on music to enjoy it ?

And everyone "knows about music" they just prefer stuff that appeals to them, and not necessarily you.

As someone else above said, he writes his own stuff, he plays his own instruments, he plays live (very well) and he can sing.

people who reckon they are always "right" about music will always get their g strings wound too tight and slag off anything popular though, I don't know why I'm surprised.


 
Posted : 10/03/2017 9:02 pm
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You're not missing anything.
He is bland bland bland.... which is probably why he sells so much music?

This + 100000000000000000

And he squeaks when he walks.


 
Posted : 10/03/2017 9:05 pm
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"As someone else above said, he writes his own stuff, he plays his own instruments, he plays live (very well) and he can sing."

In which case, superb. Should be more like him.

(I've never knowingly heard anything by him, mind ewe.)


 
Posted : 10/03/2017 9:06 pm
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I've got a complete blind spot about Ed Sheeran. I just don't get his popularity. But I think there are two factors at work - best-in-class social media management, and he's renowned for engaging with the fans.


 
Posted : 10/03/2017 9:09 pm
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my local village co-op even had an pop stand with his CD for sale, cannot say I've ever seen one for another artist

on the radio they were on about how aggressively its being marketed at a very quiet time of year music wise,

pat on the back all round for the marketing men, they've just played the streaming.sales game very well, and clearly its a broken system


 
Posted : 10/03/2017 9:12 pm
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I am glad to say I have never listened to one of his songs.

So how do you know if you like him or not then?

Can't say I'm a fan but a few of his songs are cheerful enough. Reports suggest he is a decent bloke so good luck to him.

I'm stuck in the 90's so will probably just keep listening to Ill Communication, 36 Chambers, Parklife and Going for Gold.

Saying all that, I've seen Coldplay live twice and thought they were great so what do I know?


 
Posted : 10/03/2017 9:18 pm
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This is the sort of "I'm superior" claptrap that people always spout about any music that's popular.

Why do you consider it "better" if you have to really concentrate on music to enjoy it ?

And everyone "knows about music" they just prefer stuff that appeals to them, and not necessarily you.

As someone else above said, he writes his own stuff, he plays his own instruments, he plays live (very well) and he can sing.

people who reckon they are always "right" about music will always get their g strings wound too tight and slag off anything popular though, I don't know why I'm surprised


This^ x1000
I'm not an ES fan, but don't get the hate. Like anything creative, music is subjective and there is almost an infinite amount of choice. Don't like a song on the radio/TV? Retune or turn it off ๐Ÿ™„


 
Posted : 10/03/2017 9:24 pm
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Well that's an opinion worth having ๐Ÿ˜†


 
Posted : 10/03/2017 9:31 pm
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My kids love him and so I get to listen to his stuff quite a lot. I actually think he's pretty good!

My 11 year old showed me this from 5 years ago before he was really big - most impressive one man band I've seen in a while!


 
Posted : 10/03/2017 9:43 pm
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Middle aged men in 'ooh, what is that rubbish that kids listen to these days' shocker...


 
Posted : 10/03/2017 9:59 pm
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this thread is akin to people wandering round the tate saying 'huh what's so impressive, i could do that'

but the fact is most can't play guitar even half well or sing and certainly can't write songs let alone gig long enough or hard enough or put it all together to make a career out or it let alone get a record into the charts

I have a degree in Jazz arranging and composing and I'm the biggest picky tossbag when it comes to composing and performance but there is a difference between personal taste and appreciation of craft

and yes I suspect he has a bloody good manager - and yes Laura Marling is awesome


 
Posted : 10/03/2017 10:05 pm
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e said, he writes his own stuff, he plays his own instruments, he plays live (very well) and he can sing.

Which is all perfectly true.
It's also perfectly true that he's just very beige, and I don't need music to be 'challenging' in order to be interesting, I just like to hear music where there's light and shade, not all one bland monotone, which I'm afraid his album is, and I heard the whole bloody thing, one track after another, so I do know whereof I speak.


 
Posted : 10/03/2017 10:07 pm
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Tell you what, after multiple top selling albums, playing to a packed Wembley stadium and (allegedly) enjoying some horizontal jogging with Taylor Swift, I bet being criticised by a bunch of forty something fellas who have nothing better to do on a Friday night than post on an Internet forum must be a real kick on the teeth for the poor ginger singer.


 
Posted : 10/03/2017 10:21 pm
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Hexakerly, we don't care much about him .. he don't care much about us.

Win.

Win.


 
Posted : 10/03/2017 10:35 pm
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Same analytics as brexit and trump I guess. Get used to more of this weirdness.


 
Posted : 10/03/2017 10:47 pm
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edhornby

I have a degree in Jazz arranging and composing

NICE!

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[quote=tpbiker ]Cant get away from this guy at the moment. Has 9 songs in the top 10, fastest selling album ever, been at number one for weeks...
Hes ok I guess, better than some of the other dross out there, but really???? Is this the best the music industry has to offer. Its just so bland..
What am I missing?

What you're missing is that streaming has broken the charts and it's no longer any sort of measure of the popularity of an act, let alone how good they are (if it ever was, but at least it used to be a measure of something relevant). Of course what hasn't changed is that the acts which do well in the charts are the ones which appeal to teenage girls, so unlikely to appeal to a load of middle aged blokes - the only difference being the power of said teenaged girls to drive songs up the charts by having them on repeat (when listeners with more varied and sophisticated tastes are unlikely to do that with the the songs they like).


 
Posted : 10/03/2017 11:08 pm
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Hmm, given I could only think of a couple of current Sheeran, out of curiosity I checked what the ones at the top of the chart are. I can now understand where the hate is coming from - the only one which stood out is Galway Girl, and that stood out for all the wrong reasons - how the **** is that #2?

The ones I could think of I actually quite like - but then I'm happy enough listening to a variety of mainstream pop. The problem is the lack of variety with ed on repeat.


 
Posted : 10/03/2017 11:22 pm
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......streaming has broken the charts and it's no longer any sort of measure of the popularity of an act....

You are going to have to explain that to me.

How is logging how many times the public choose to stream a song not a measure of how popular that the song is with the public?


 
Posted : 10/03/2017 11:25 pm
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I covered that in the post - because rather than being a measure of how popular it is amongst a wide variety of people, which is a good definition of popularity, it's measuring which songs are on repeat with the more limited set of listeners who play songs on repeat.


 
Posted : 10/03/2017 11:30 pm
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I think he's good, and any one who doesn't agree is wrong. Fact.

I still don't like coldplay though....


 
Posted : 10/03/2017 11:34 pm
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I really like the idea of Ed, he seems a solid bloke. But his music isn't for me. But there again there is no way I'm the target audience


 
Posted : 10/03/2017 11:35 pm
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Dunno about Ed all a bit MOR for me, but he has shown what a farce the charts have become and are a complete irrelevance. Thank god streaming didn't count when Westlife were around, as they'd have been number 1 all year!


 
Posted : 10/03/2017 11:35 pm
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How is logging how many times the public choose to stream a song not a measure of how popular that the song is with the public?

It's an interesting point, but doesn't differentiate between what was traditionally seen as being the single (an advert for the album), and the album in itself.
Do we get rid of the single, album or both charts?
No1 or not, I think he's not too bad in the world of pop, but in the world of music there is far better stuff out there.


 
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