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AFAIK there will be no enforcement, only the risk of being “found out”.

I think really egregious breaches- like, you are traced as a superspreader- might get to be a celebrity/warning case but yeah, it's really not designed to be enforced.

No idea if that'll work. There's a lot of people throwing poo frankly but I don't know if, statistically, that matters. Equally enforcing it might cause people to kick back more. It probably does help people with work, with cancelling things etc.


 
Posted : 20/11/2020 3:55 pm
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Given the friction down in the tweed valley I would expect the police will have a wee stop setup down there this weekend.

Only time in 25 years+ of driving that I've ever been pulled over was when leaving Innerleithen and the police were pulling folk in to the wee layby area down near the river. I'd be amazed if they're not setup there tomorrow


 
Posted : 20/11/2020 4:23 pm
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It’ll be interesting to see how they try and enforce a border closure. Checkpoints on the M6/M74 and A1? Is this the SNP preparing for independence?

I have to travel up for an 'exempt' activity in a week or so. Wondering how likely it is I'll have to explain myself to a friendly officer.


 
Posted : 20/11/2020 4:39 pm
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You'll be fine, there ain't enough cops around as it is, never mind police the roads.


 
Posted : 20/11/2020 5:05 pm
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Only a bried mention on BBC scotland and none on the main page and no MP or conservative has spoken out

Think FundellyMundelly Junior resigned from his front bench post over it. Which probably describes exactly what you say about the lack of reaction.


 
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Jumped off the dale at the Ayr bath’s once .. more than 40 years ago you’ll note that “once”😁

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ja, I think a few of us did. Only time I tried it again was up ek dales! brutal! 😆


 
Posted : 21/11/2020 3:07 am
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Given the friction down in the tweed valley I would expect the police will have a wee stop setup down there this weekend.

I did say yesterday to a friend that the Valley should be quiet over the weekend, but we'll see...


 
Posted : 21/11/2020 9:36 am
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Aye, I reckon it's a cert the polis Will be there.


 
Posted : 21/11/2020 9:41 am
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Care to elaborate on "friction" in the Tweed Valley?

I'm sure th 5 mile outside your local authority rule has nothing to do with Nicola Sturgeon living right on the edge of Glasgow 😉


 
Posted : 21/11/2020 9:59 am
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Care to elaborate on “friction” in the Tweed Valley?

Locals being locals, but they do have some valid points.
There's a fair bit of noise on local discussion groups about how busy the usual places have been with people who're obviously not local. It doesn't take a genius to realise large groups with northern English or western central belt accents, are most likely not local, and then there is the apparent inability to count past 6.


 
Posted : 21/11/2020 12:28 pm
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Must be working, Thornielee was a ghost forest this morning


 
Posted : 21/11/2020 3:08 pm
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Suggestions for a day in Aberdeen, 8th December?

I have to travel down for an early morning MRI, so I'll have from about 10am until 6pm to kill time. If reasonable weather I'll just go walk about, but other than a fastfood crawl is there anywhere sheltered to kill time sensibly? Cinemas all look to be closed which would be a normal choice.

Ta.


 
Posted : 21/11/2020 4:46 pm
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Been to Annan and back today, M6 was quiet but not dead.

No police presence or any signs saying keep out you dirty disease ridden clarty bas$rds.

Just essential travel only markers on the gantry.

I was in Scotland about 45min.


 
Posted : 21/11/2020 5:35 pm
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Get the train down to Stonehaven, (about 20 minutes) then walk up to Dunnoter via the war memorial. Then food in the Marine and train back.


 
Posted : 21/11/2020 5:49 pm
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Just noticed DFS is open, in tier 4.

Must be for those essential emergency sofas.


 
Posted : 21/11/2020 5:51 pm
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Cheers Duckman, but did that in January in a similar situation. Also got the bus to Banchory to go up Scolty Woods.

If its reasonable weather going walking isn't the issue, even just along the coast, Don or Dee. The issue I what to do if its a day of dirt other than a cafe crawl. Saying that I do have waterproofs!


 
Posted : 21/11/2020 5:58 pm
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Just noticed DFS is open, in tier 4.

Did they have a sale on?


 
Posted : 21/11/2020 7:49 pm
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I have been behaving and staying in or close to my own LA of South Lanarkshire, though living a couple of miles from GCC, East Ren and North Ayrshire, going a few miles into these areas to ride, or on a ride remains compliant and justifiable to my self.

I was just looking at a map there and discovered that, towards the south end of South Lanarkshire, the gem that is Drumlanrig is just under 5 miles from the LA boundary...

It feels wrong to drive an hour and a bit in current times, but it’s totally legit.. WWSTW do I wonder ..??


 
Posted : 21/11/2020 9:27 pm
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Rule #1 still applies


 
Posted : 21/11/2020 9:30 pm
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Colin, yes, that is very much my thought too, whilst totally within the rules it doesn’t feel right somehow !


 
Posted : 21/11/2020 9:35 pm
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Ach, it's easy for me to say. Even if we went to Tier 4 I could, in theory, ride Torridon, head up to Durness etc. It would feel like taking the piss though.


 
Posted : 21/11/2020 9:40 pm
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Colin, yes, that is very much my thought too, whilst totally within the rules it doesn’t feel right somehow !

Did I miss something? Has 5 miles from home gone out the window? (Please make it so)


 
Posted : 21/11/2020 9:43 pm
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You can travel up to 5 miles outside your LA for exercise. That could be to start/end exercise. It's plainly aimed at those living in the larger towns and conurbations, offering a degree of flexibility and thereby reducing overcrowding at more popular spots in these towns.


 
Posted : 21/11/2020 9:45 pm
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^^^ as Scotroutes says, and primarily designed to help those in dense urban conurbations. As with most laws there are loopholes, one of which I am seeing here, but, as previously also said, Rule #1 ought to prevail.


 
Posted : 21/11/2020 9:49 pm
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Yup, totally missed that. TBH it doesn't bring much temptation my way, think they only place it brings within the limit is somewhere I wouldn't bother with at the moment anyway


 
Posted : 21/11/2020 10:02 pm
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I don't see it as dickish at all for you to ride Drumlanrig. I get that druid's Aviemore is way different to where I am (and I don't approve) but folk here take the piss all day long. You won't put any one at risk if you are sensible.


 
Posted : 21/11/2020 10:13 pm
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I canny be arsed driving an hour for drumlanrig when it's not during restrictions! 😆


 
Posted : 21/11/2020 10:16 pm
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^^^^ I know what you mean but after months of Whitelee, Chaterherault and Blantyre, even Cathkin is becoming an attractive idea... (it isn’t really.. 😀)


 
Posted : 21/11/2020 10:18 pm
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Why that's just silly talk😆


 
Posted : 21/11/2020 10:49 pm
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Try living here, the closest you get to adventure biking is a ride through the bottom end of Stevenston or Bourtreehill.

Hunners of roads to ride if Carmageddon is your thing though.


 
Posted : 22/11/2020 2:40 am
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Drove from Glasgow to Yorkshire last night (transiting through as the only flights we could get for an essential journey were via Scottish airports). No sign of any enforcement on either side of the border but roads pretty quiet.


 
Posted : 22/11/2020 8:56 am
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mentioned I was jealous of folk living in the area

He's from down that way


 
Posted : 22/11/2020 7:53 pm
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In which case I stand corrected, and reported myself for being a bell-end


 
Posted : 22/11/2020 7:59 pm
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Shame I missed that. I'd have deleted the whole post as being contrary to the aims of the group anyway.


 
Posted : 22/11/2020 9:23 pm
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A specific question and looking for thoughts, as can’t see guidance online yet.

We live in South Lanarkshire and are hoping to have a few days, just the 4 of us, at an Air BnB in St Andrews between Christmas and New Year. It’s booked and fully refundable for another 3 weeks. I’m expecting we will be, at home, in L3 at best, or still L4 and destination area a little lower.

Currently it would be a no, which is fine and happy to stick with that, but messaging seems to be a relaxation in travel, primarily to facilitate seeing family, which would not be our purpose as it’s just our immediate household anyway.

It would be nice to get away, and it’s one of our boys 18th, hence the planned wee break.

Feel a bit torn on this one, gut feel is wait and see another few weeks but keen for some thoughts.


 
Posted : 25/11/2020 8:39 am
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Wait and see.


 
Posted : 25/11/2020 12:33 pm
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If it was me I'd still plan on going!
Alright traveling between L3 & L4 areas is not advisable, but once you get there I'm assuming you'd pretty much be self-contained.
That's what we did in October, given it was the Isle of Lewis so social distancing wasn't too much of an issue.


 
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A specific question and looking for thoughts, as can’t see guidance online yet.

We live in South Lanarkshire and are hoping to have a few days, just the 4 of us, at an Air BnB in St Andrews between Christmas and New Year. It’s booked and fully refundable for another 3 weeks. I’m expecting we will be, at home, in L3 at best, or still L4 and destination area a little lower.

Currently it would be a no, which is fine and happy to stick with that, but messaging seems to be a relaxation in travel, primarily to facilitate seeing family, which would not be our purpose as it’s just our immediate household anyway.

It would be nice to get away, and it’s one of our boys 18th, hence the planned wee break.

Feel a bit torn on this one, gut feel is wait and see another few weeks but keen for some thoughts.

I don't personally agree with the whole christmas thing, but I understand people will do it anyhow, so I understand the reasoning to give people some guidance..

But they are lifting travel restrictions, so **** it, get yerself off on holiday, go for it and enjoy. Yer boy will only be 18 once.


 
Posted : 25/11/2020 1:43 pm
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Well, he'll be 18 for 365 days...


 
Posted : 25/11/2020 1:51 pm
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^^^ hahaha 🙂 Indeed he will, but it would be 'nice' to get away, though by no means essential. Think will hold off calling it for a couple of weeks..


 
Posted : 25/11/2020 3:24 pm
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I would like to press the button on a ski season pass for *somewhere*. At one point or another I have held one for Cairngorm, Glencoe, Glenshee and Nevis.

Nevis are already out of the running this season, closed until further notice, and Cairngorm seem to have degenerated into such a basket case that they actively discourage their own customers from ever returning. For me, Lecht is just too far away.

I live in Perth & Kinross, and Glenshee is wholly within 5 miles of the PKC/Aberdeenshire boundary. Under the current guidelines I think skiing at Glenshee will be OK.

Normally I just have the "Will there be enough snow?" question to over think. Now I have the "Will I be allowed to travel?" one to ponder too. Is anyone else overthinking the same stuff?


 
Posted : 27/11/2020 12:16 pm
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Last year was apparently magic for snow, so this year will be terrible. Would this not be the year just to suck up the extra cost in day passes? Plus if it is open, Glenshee will be heaving due to the lack of competition and it is a special kind of hell then.


 
Posted : 27/11/2020 12:29 pm
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Last year was magic for howling westerlies every weekend until mid-March. Nevis was trial by ordeal, and even when "open", most of the lifts were closed. The tail end of March and April was great. Settled weather, great snow, no crowds. I watched it all via webcam...


 
Posted : 27/11/2020 12:33 pm
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A season ticket for Gondola Bike uplift at Nevis range may be a more realistic option!


 
Posted : 27/11/2020 3:16 pm
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Same way I viewed it TW, with the added pain of MWIS forecasting calm days.


 
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