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Yeah, I genuinely don't judge or care what others do, just feel more comfortable in myself doing whatever we're told, path of least resistance!
Just wondering at what point I stop being a martyr and start riding with buddies again, the only male company I've enjoyed recently had been my three year old son, his sense of humour is at an appropriate level but he's bloody slow on the hills ☹
Good on you, I’ve been much the same and have now got to the point where I’m not even bothered about what others do any more.
+1 I’m currently sat in a pub in Bolton. You’d find it hard to believe that they’ve just gone into tier 3.
One of my sons pals has been sent home from school in Auchterarder for 14 days after one of her classmates tested positive. Unwell on Thursday, tested on Sunday, went to school Monday & Tuesday, +ve result Tuesday PM all class mates sent home on Wednesday morning. No sanction for going in Monday / Tuesday - ****ing crazy!
but he’s bloody slow on the hills
I remember those days. Enjoy them while you can. My now 16 year old is a skinny hipped racing snake that the only way I can keep up with is on my ebike 😀
Feels that by obeying the rules I’m in a slightly foolish minority, but I can’t be bothered with the mental gymnastics required to justify my breaking the rules…
I guess I'm lucky in that, locally at least, most of the folk I know are still following the guidelines, 90% of the time at least. That makes it easier. Still doesn't stop me getting annoyed at other folk (mostly tourists) who seem to have forgotten we still have a pandemic to deal with. In many ways though, I can't really blame them - mixed messages, the lower figures during summer, lockdown fatigue all play a part.
I've been too busy working, stuff round the house and entertaining a 2 year old.
Since march I've seen one mate a few times for a blast round beecraigs and Callender estate with kids up front and balance bikes. Two other mates have been met in the street in passing.
I popped down to Glentress once, luckily I have the Pentlands on my doorstep.
I'm beginning to feel like a martyr and denying myself.
So I'm out to ride tomorrow morning and it's forecast for heavy rain and wind.
The cafe’s in Glasgow aren’t shut and isn’t it even the same healthboard?
Nope, Helensburgh is in Highland. Either that or my parents are just making up any excuse to avoid me these days
Helensburgh is in Argyll and Bute, so part of the Highland Health Board region.
I live right at the north west end of south Lanarkshire, about 2 miles from East Ren, and similar from Glasgow CC and 5 miles from north Ayrshire.
I have been trying for the past month to keep it local and riding busy roads and paths around Bothwell Castle and Chaterherault full of people and dogs...
Today I popped the bike on the back of the car and drove 5 miles into East Ren, to Whitelee Visitor Centre and rode 24 miles of deserted gravel, my ‘normal’ local ride area.
Risk wise it felt like the safest ride I have done for many weeks..
Driving to gravel, heavens to murgatroyd! 😆😆😆
Thing is nobeer, it’s a lovely huge big open space, full of fresh air, very few people, stunning views over to Arran and the Craig. Proper relaxing and good for the heid 👍
24 miles and a couple of hours, think I saw 3 bikes, a runner and a dog...
Oh, and mudguards too, just to really wind you up .. 😜
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Not my point, I thought gravel was all about riding from the door! 😆
I only dislike mudguards on proper MTBs, and only the rear ones. Anyway, those look like half arsed mudguards! Get something decent on that thing! 😆
Not my point, I thought gravel was all about riding from the door!
He has a motorbike for that.
I know, and I would normally ride the wee 5 mile stretch, however, late afternoon, low sun, heading mainly uphill and west, at Friday work finish time was not something I fancied. Too many casualty passes at that time of day on the moor road..
He has a motorbike for that.
Aye, but it was raining...
Anyway, those look like half arsed mudguards
You must have a huge arse nobeer 🤣. Mine was nice and dry at the end...
I'm no the one needing a motor to assist, and driving 5 miles to hike! 🤣
... and heart disease isn’t contagious so you’ll be fine... 😀
Lol!
Was isolating this week for a mere 36 hours, was brutal, 14 days must be horrendous.
So all central belt to be tier 3. Pubs open before Christmas? Can’t see it
Was isolating this week for a mere 36 hours, was brutal, 14 days must be horrendous.
I had to do the long isolation bit back in April. It was OK, but was at a time when there were more restrictions anyway which maybe made it easier to bear.
Aye, I think I'll get everything in that I need to redo the utility room, then if we do end up isolating for a proper spell, I can make use of the dead time!
Managed to insulate the van this time right enough 😃
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-54682086
That's a great idea, Bish, but the problem with a truce is that both sides have to observe it. Are you going to negotiate with the virus so that it stops transmitting itself on Christmas Day? Otherwise it's a bit like good old Tommy Atkins laying his weapons down for the day whilst Fritz motors through to Paris.
I read that bishop's proposal. A terribly thought out idea for the reasons you alude to.
Luckily wee nic won't be putting up with any of that nonsense..
Saw some of the comments on Kaye Adams live feed on Facey this morning.
Christmas as usual for us etc.
Also heard reports of large house gatherings around the Old Firm match.
I really do despair of people's mentality/attitude around the current situation!
Edit.
As for folks being unable to grasp the new 5 tier strategy that starts at 0, come on!
It's Bishop Keenen that needs a kick up the arse, not Bishop Brennan, what a holy roaster.
Am I right in assuming the daily infection rate is accurate across the weekend, unlike the death numbers which have a catch up on a tuesdayish?
usually a dip in the case numbers at the weekend catch up in tuesday.
Hospital admissions seem fairly consistent.
I think death numbers, just happen when they happen, not sure if there's a weekend effect.
No, there's definitely a confirmed dip in death numbers due to registration of deaths and weekend opening, or lack of.
I'm just trying to work out why SGov seem confident that rise is slowing...
Probably is slowing. But it's relative I guess. Edinburgh seems to be doing well. glasgow and lanarkshire not so well. Best waiting till friday, so you get the weekend effect out of the road mind.
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I also think the pubs shutting is starting to have an effect on hospital numbers.
first dot, is my guess about the effect when household restrictions started having an effect, second is pub I think starting to show through.
I'm comparing last time to this time here. I also suspect without restrictions numbers might have been higher too, so restrictions might be having more of an effect that the direct comparison looks like here. (reasoning, just the fact from going to spring to summer, and summer into autumn I suspect.)
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am I right in thinking the central belt, i.e Peebles, is still a no go area for non locals. I'm in Aberdeen and planning this weekend riding adventures
It is advised not to - you are travelling to an area that is officially high risk. Reverse, those in central belt areas are being encouraged not to travel outside.
I have to say, I wouldn't come south at the moment from Aberdeen. Head rural and local surely?
cheers, that's what I thought. Just looking to ride different areas before I'm stuck back in the city and surrounding trails again thanks to the local pub crawl super spreaders
It is advised not to – you are travelling to an area that is officially high risk.
Incorrect. Peebles is in the Borders which is one of the lowest risk and least affected parts of Scotland.
Aye, Peebles ain't in the central belt, go for it.
...just hold your breath between the Forth Road Bridge and Penicuik 😀
It was good to see the rules being so well adhered to on Sunday, as I rode back into town the stream of cars with bikes on the back and on roofs heading south to Peebles way was , well, large. At the Bilston lights there was 11 in a row FFS !
Incorrect. Peebles is in the Borders which is one of the lowest risk and least affected parts of Scotland.
My apologies. I stand corrected. Fill yer boots!
stream of cars with bikes on the back and on roofs heading south to Peebles way was , well, large
Mad, isn't it? Here I am, doing what I'm told and riding the Pentlands on my own or with a single pal while I have a mate from Edinburgh who named his Strava ride on Saturday "Inners with Chris, Ross and Scott". He's a good mate and I'm probably going to have a word at some point soon. Household to household contact is the bad thing here, so to go out with four people into a different health board that definitely doesn't want you in their healthcare system when you've been very clearly told not to just seems stupid. But seemingly every bugger is doing it and I'm in the minority for keeping local and not riding in groups.
Hmmm, Peebles is probably a honeypot for all those not sticking with the rules. I can wait till after winter. Very much sticking to the rules and the spirit of them so we can get out of this mess sooner
I was at Glentress on Sunday with a friend and I've never seen the car parks so busy out with Tweedlove etc. Did seem to be a few big groups out but mostly it seemed to be families.
I was quite amazed frankly but not overly surprised. To be fair I too had actually made an upcock and gone to Carnwath (well almost) and back via Dolphinton etc so had actually gone into S Lanarkshire naughty me. Genuinely didn't realise until afterwards.
when you’ve been very clearly told not to
but the wording hasn't actually been as strong as that this time round, has it?
https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-local-measures/pages/central-belt/
people living in the five health board areas are advised not to travel outside the health board area they live in, unless they need to;
How clear do you want it?
To be honest, I'm of the opinion that outdoor activities are fair game, there's literally heehaw else to do, so a bit of meeting a few mates for a trek or hike is fair game if you ask me, and in that context the travelling is really irrelevant.
The government have deemed schools and certain workplaces and areas of the economy, as priority and rightly so. Personally, I'm deeming my mental health and fitness as priority, so I'll travel for outdoor exercise as I see fit.
I should have done the same last time. It not that difficult to avoid the places everyone goes, so easy to be fairly distant.
Trekked up meikle bin at the weekend, seen about 15 people over the course of the 10km, outwith 4 of us who were out. So it's hardly a dangerous situation.
Plus we are going into winter, so you'll see less and less people out.
How clear do you want it?
A definition of "need" would be good.
Life threatening need? Mental health need? Physical health need?
Personally, I’m deeming my mental health and fitness as priority, so I’ll travel for outdoor exercise as I see fit.
Priority over what? Spreading the virus further afield and potentially killing someone?
Are there genuinely no places to exercise local to you that requires travel further afield?
Also, and not particularly aimed at postwr above but..This whole 'my mental health needs considered' line is becoming tiresome tbh. It's to often being used as an excuse for 'I'm bored and not enjoying myself as much as I'd like to.' As someone whom suffers from mental health issues, I appreciate the difficulty of these times as much as the next man, but 'I need to travel across 3 countries to go cycling at gt with my mates or my mental health will suffer' is just nonsense...a piss poor justification for breaking the rules.
To be honest, I’m of the opinion that outdoor activities are fair game, there’s literally heehaw else to do, so a bit of meeting a few mates for a trek or hike is fair game if you ask me, and in that context the travelling is really irrelevant.
Interesting.
I'm ok with some travel, but it's the seeing people bit that seems the big risk.
I have been up at Glentress and dismayed by the number of cars, and the rubbish parking. Can't all be locals, as there are enough cars some days for for ALL the locals.
Two things I think are happening 1. people don't realise that Peebles is over the county border 2. Forestry Scotland haven't closed the trails as they did last time, so, you know.
matt_outandabout
I’m ok with some travel, but it’s the seeing people bit that seems the big risk.
indoor is the big risk tbf.
Plus go and have a walk down sauchiehall street the morra anyhow.... Any spread that's happening isn't happening in the hills. Just avoid the places that are jammed.
Plus if you've ever seen my fat arse walking up a hill, I'm naturally distanced well behind any companions. 😆
tpbiker
a piss poor justification for breaking the rules.
There are no travel restrictions. only recommendations.
Seems quite a few risks there Seosamh.
Travelling outside your own healthboard area
You might be alright meeting your mates outside so long as they're all from the one household.
Did you all travel to Meikle Bin individually ?
In fairness we're all going to find it harder to comply over the winter. No guising at Halloween has hit me a bit although the neighbours look a bit surprised when an unshaven man in his late 50s turns up at the door dressed as Harry Potter
Forestry Scotland haven’t closed the trails as they did last time, so, you know.
Why would they? The alternative is more people in less space. Better to use the the quiet areas we have to allow folk to space out.
I have to say a fortnight ago we did travel - but both times avoided contact where we could, so no busy car parks, no busy routes, no cafe, no public loos, no stopping when travelling etc. I am comfortable in the forest / river / wilds.
I am not in a busy trail centre cafe or line of cyclists around me. I am not meeting groups of people.
I am back to discovering all the 'local'* lanes, tracks and spaces I haven't explored yet. I may extend my 'local' to other empty places, again with no stopping, meeting, cafe, loo or other engagement with local community or other visitors.
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.* we live 2 miles from the border with a 'high' central belt health board, and it seems that the 10 miles drive to park in an empty place and explore lanes and empty tracks in Perthshire (we saw two walkers and about 7 cars the whole 40km ride) was a reasonable 'local'. YMMV depending on where you stay.
Travelling outside your own healthboard area
As above, I live almost on the border. I can travel back into the 'red zone' if you like. Or I can head to the relative calm of space in the 'wrong' healthboard.
Micro-geographies are important here - in Stirlingshire our outbreaks are in a few places (Cowie, Fallin, Drymen, Stirling City Centre). They are not Crianlarich and Killin, and at the moment not Dunblane.
Might be, but tbh, i'm doing bugger all else apart from working from home(self employed), and going to the shops every now and then, so meeting one or 2 people every other week or so doesn't particularly seem a massive risk to me. Literally the only indoor contact I have with people is in the supermarket or a shop these days. and I'm masked up there. (actually I went to the swimming the other week for the first time since february.)
Which tbh, from my experience, literally loads of people I know now have it, they've all caught it from indoor settings, pubs, workplaces etc. (well best guess, as you can never be entirely sure).
So perhaps a small risk, but there is a risk/reward balance there people need to take for themselves.
My personal circumstances mean I'm massively distanced from people anyhow. So..
ps different cars aye, outwith bubbles..
I was just saying !
Anyway, what was interesting was my socially distanced beer with a friend who is in A&E at ERI who’s point was all we need is a few people spannering themselves, then some locals helping then the infection is off and running somewhere else. Hence the state local’ recommendation, I scoffed at that and then he said he’d had 3 people in from Glentress the other weekend so it’s happening out there. Anyway, we can all make our own decisions.
how clear do you want it
New strategy, page 59, no matter what level you're at, travel for outdoor exercise is classed as essential travel by the looks of it.
New strategy, page 59, no matter what level you’re at, travel for outdoor exercise is classed as essential travel by the looks of it.
What are the pedants going to moan about now!
Yup, if yer gauny grass yer mates, better be quick! 😆
You can have Peebles back in the Lothians if you want. It's got an EH postcode.
As above, I live almost on the border. I can travel back into the ‘red zone’ if you like. Or I can head to the relative calm of space in the ‘wrong’ healthboard.
As I do in aberdeen city.
Not supposed to have been going into the shire but living on an island of city land surrounded by shire It was a bit hard. Ie unless I trudged across fields there was no way for me to get to the city facilities without entering the shire.....
Even more funny was finding out that the stone bridge at the bottom of the road was the ancient plague gate to the city where the farmer chiels would patrol and keep the city folk in their place.
excellent -- am off to Oban for a walk and a bowl of mussels....
Goodness, that’s a change, Mugdock here I come .. 😁
Common sense prevails
^^^^ you know the problem with common sense though ?....... it’s not very common..
Mugdock here I come
I thought the ongoing advice was to avoid activities that might require medical assistance?
Ah but stabbing is just a flesh wound
I thought the ongoing advice was to avoid activities that might require medical assistance?
Aye, worth seeing if sanny will loan you that e-cumbent, even you couldnae go OTB on that Iain 😆
You wanna bet ? ... 😂
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I have a bolthole in Innerleithen but live 50 miles away near Dollar. I went down once to change a leaking dishwasher after the 'stay in your health board' advice and never even took the bike out for uplift.
Watching strava, instasham and TF it is amazing at the number of people still coming down into the borders for a ride.
There are even YT videos of multiple blokes all riding Inners/GT/Thronilee etc together over the weekend - I note some with North East England accents and channel names....
What are the pedants going to moan about now!
Pedantry is alive and well yet Bob!
Matt watched a YouTube video on here with some dude from Geordieland at Yair.
The one that gets me is folks, plainly from 2 different households, out for a walk posting cheek by jowl selfies on Facey.
Really have to resist commenting!
The one that gets me is folks, plainly from 2 different households, out for a walk posting cheek by jowl selfies on Facey.
Really have to resist commenting!
Aye but it is only a global pandemic, not nearly as important as living your best instagram life and making sure everybody sees you doing it.
The selfie thing grinds my gears too. Get the **** away from each other!
Thanks for the link nobeer, it's nice to know that I can have a bit of variety again from next week. My point still stands about my mate riding in groups of four households but it'll be good to get out somewhere different. The Pentlands don't hold up well in winter.
Definitely looks like positive tests are levelling off now, fingers crossed, probably a direct result of the restrictions that began a few weeks ago. Possibly not enough of a drop to be reliable, but it also looks like the percentage of positive tests is dropping off too.