Apparently I'm being paranoid but colleague in office "smokes" one occassionally. I know there hasn't been any tests carried out as yet? I don't want to get hooked on any Nicotine vapour?
Signed, paranoid (stop looking at me) hora
It can make you paranoid apparently 😉
It's about as dangerous as inhaling steam from a kettle!
A discarded one gave a friend of mine a flat tire on his motorbike recently...
Does he hold it delicately in his hand, toying with it and keep putting it in his mouth and sucking it? He fancies you.
do you have any proof of that woody? link maybe?
There was a +200 post thread on this subject a while ago 😉 Did nobody tell you? Are people avoiding you? ......
Linky??
Who you calling paranoid??? STOP TALKING ABOUT ME!!!!
That would be pretty dangerous Woody, inhaling something in the region of 100 degrees plus wont be nice.
My friends GF is a GP, shes been to a couple of talks about them, and they still have the carcinogens that cause cancer, and the nicotine still keeps you addicted, there's just not the tar content. Not sure about the passive health risks though. I would of thought you'd be fine.
They're treated the same as normal cigarettes in our office - ie you can only smoke them in the smoking shelter.
[i]you can only smoke them in the smoking shelter.[/i]
I like that - so even people giving up smoking can stink like an ashtray 🙂
This looks like its worth a read (for someone who is interested, ie. not me)
biggest risk is fire from the cheap ones...a colleagues efag set fire to the office.......
as the charger hadn't been Pat tested for use at work and the incident cost over a 100k... that person isn't with us any more.....
[i]“I smoke. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your ****in' mouth.”[/i]
A colleague of mine had his blow up too.
I think I remember the EU or WHO trying to ban them because they're not regulated so you could be inhaling anything.
That would be pretty dangerous Woody, inhaling something in the region of 100 degrees plus wont be nice. - See more at: http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/e-cigs-any-passive-health-issues#post-5535854
I assumed Hora wasn't THAT close but he doesn't say if its a male or female colleague, so you might have a point !
Real or e-cigs, you seem to have forgotten the first rule of smoking......
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Real or e-cigs, you seem to have forgotten the first rule of smoking.....
I'm an addict but I'm completely in denial and want to pretend that I'm a head-strong person of my own? 😉
You should get an E-Bike, it might stop your serial bike swapping..
....and they still have the carcinogens that cause cancer
Which ones are those then ??
And in what amounts.
I think they need to do a bit more research
Which ones are those then ??And in what amounts.
I think they need to do a bit more research
Exactly but better we treat them as suspect carcinogens until its proven or not.
Exactly but better we treat them as suspect carcinogens until its proven or not.
The independent research has already been done
I meant your friend of a friends girlfriend should do some more research, (or you should before repeating what they say ?)
....and they still have the carcinogens that cause cancer
But they are balanced out by the carcinogens that don't cause cancer.
Exactly but better we treat them as suspect carcinogens until its proven or not.
On that basis, wouldn't that apply to absolutely everything?
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BAN EVERYTHING!!!!!! QUICK!!!!!!!! [/b]
Are there any health implications of using one first hand? I need a new hobby.
But they are balanced out by the carcinogens that don't cause cancer.
Yeah, if only they had thought to use that type of carcinogen in proper cigarettes eh 😉
Would have so much better 
It shows how feeble they are at least.
If you are giving up, give up. Stop being so weak.
If you are giving up, give up. Stop being so weak.
You should have stayed for the full hour of your "learn addiction counselling" course.
People smoke because they enjoy it. Only reason to give up is the health implications. So plenty people will stay on the ecigs indefinitely.ScottChegg - Member
It shows how feeble they are at least.If you are giving up, give up. Stop being so weak.
plenty people will stay on the ecigs indefinitely.
Yup, don't see any reason why not.
I've been on the e-cigs and off the real cigarettes for just short of five years.
They're treated the same as normal cigarettes in our office - ie you can only smoke them in the smoking shelter.
I wish this was the norm everywhere tbh.
For potential heath issues, which may be proven to not exist, I've not done any research.
Primarily though so e-cig's aren't normalised and picked up by kids.
I'm all for free choice (So long as that doesn't directly affect others e.g. passive smoking in enclosed public places) but that level of ostracization of smokers and hopefully ECigs might help keep some kids from starting.
I can't imagine many smokers actually wanting to encourage their kids to start either, and if they're normalised into society that can happen much easier IMHO.
you can actually smoke ecigs without anybody noticing you are doing it btw. take a smoke, then take another breath of fresh air before you inhale and no vapour comes out.
The independent research has already been doneI meant your friend of a friends girlfriend should do some more research, (or you should before repeating what they say ?)
Maybe you should read it again:
My friends GF is a [b]GP[/b], shes [b]been to a couple of talks about them[/b], and they [b]still have the carcinogens that cause cancer[/b], and the nicotine still keeps you addicted, there's just not the tar content. Not sure about the passive health risks though. I would of thought you'd be fine.
Although, more research does need to be done.
Maybe you should read it again:
No. I read it just fine thanks.
They are referring to the FDA tests I would imagine.
The ones that showed that there were less carcinogens in E-cigs than there are in nicotine gum, and patches.
Amounts so small they cannot be accurately measured.
So to say they contain carcinogens is technically correct, but not to quantify what that means disingenuous to say the least.
Oh well, don't I feel sheepish, here's me thinking "why would a doctor lie to me?" (except to spare my feelings of course) I bow down to your knowledge and humbly beg your forgiveness.
That's fine. Maybe the talk they attended was biased ?
Maybe they weren't listening properly ?
Who knows ?
Maybe they simply ignored the research as it didn't deliver the answers they wanted? 😉
Those pesky doctors, always trying to tell you what they think is wrong, not what you [i]know[/i] is wrong. 😉
I gave up smoking over 10 years ago, but last year I did have a try on an ecig at the works xmas party, it was alright, i might have another go if I fancy it again.
I think its shameful that the anti smoking brigade are continuing to bully people, who are meeting them more than halfway by switching to a relatively benign method of taking their nicoteen.
that is all it is.the anti smoking brigade are continuing to bully people
Sweepy we are only jealous.
dabble most GP's are just as bad as the rest of us. They are only human.
I suspect the tobacco industry would be quite active in lobbying against ecigs, they look to be the biggest danger to their empires they have faced.
And it's not like the tobacco industry would ever stoop to misleading research and pushing false information. Doctors can be just as naive as anybody else when schmoosed at conferences and fed misleading information.
+1 and theres taxation opportunities. So I imagine E-Cigs will be banned then 'approved' along with sudden heaps of tax added...
