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Anyone had to deal with this?

Was cleaning the bike after a ride outside when I saw a car that has been around a lot recently pull up in the street. Female occupant with kids in the back as usual. A guy then comes out of one of the residences nearby and goes over all friendly etc, female driver then shakes his hand through the window. Nothing odd there. Except it was obvious that she had just handed him a few notes. He then goes to see the kids in the back for a few seconds then goes back to the driver and discreetly hands her a small clingfilm wrap the walks back into his residence. The driver didn't say anything or even smile, just started at her phone the whole time then drove off.

Obviously a drug deal. Was so obvious it was unreal!

If other people want to experiment etc then that's up to them but dealing in broad daylight right in front of me is not on. Now normally I'd report it to the police but it would be very obvious that it was me who did it and I don't want to attract trouble to myself, especially as it's obvious I have bikes on the premises etc. So what do I do? just ignore it?


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 3:43 pm
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Write to the Daily Mail?


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 3:48 pm
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why would it be obvious it was you? The police don't have to act on it immediately, may be just another tip-off.

And in any case - if you don't want it to happen then take action, and if you aren't going to do that yourself then you need the police involved. If you aren't bothered - then don't bother.

Sometimes citizenship requires that you have to do things that aren't easy or comfortable, whether it's standing up to a racist on a bus or giving evidence in court despite having been 'threatened' by the defendant's mates previously. Your call.


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 3:49 pm
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Your last question is good advice.


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 3:50 pm
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Interrupted a deal taking place outside our Scout hut a couple of months ago. Pretty obvious what the (very distinctive) van and pedestrian had met to do.

I sent an email to the local community policing team telling them what I'd seen. I suspect round here they will already know who is dealing anyway, but they may decide to keep an eye out for that vehicle a bit more.

I'm happy I did the right thing. Consenting adults in private is fine, but not outside my Scout hut, thank you.


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 4:07 pm
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Wow. Why not get Julian to sic Timothy on them whilst Georgina goes to get the ginger beer.

Happening all the time round here.


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 4:17 pm
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Happening all the time round here.

Northern hell hole ?


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 4:19 pm
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Ring the lame 101 number. Better than nothing. No one will know anything.


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 4:19 pm
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What drug do you reckon it was? Do you have lots of people calling at the address?


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 4:23 pm
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The bloke 2 doors up from me was a small time dealer on occasion. I reported him to the Police, as he had sold to a 15yo Son of my mate. They werent interested - 'no evidence, hearsay, no report from the buyers Dad etc', then they said cannabis dealers are not their top priority at the moment.
I've lost faith/respect in the Police in the last 5 years, for that example, and also not following up my burglary, where I had a good idea who had done it, yet they woudlnt go round the house, even though the scrote was on parole.


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 4:26 pm
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Cannabis by the looks of it, dark and organic. Not up on what's currently available (Uni was a looong time ago..).

MoreCash - that's my feeling too, keep it out of plain sight and it's none of my business but doing it right in front of me is not on. Will look into the Community policing Team option, might use one of my odd email addresses too 😛


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 4:27 pm
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Perhaps start campaigning for legalisation so they don't have to buy like that?


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 4:37 pm
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Go buy some, smoke it and chill out?


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 4:43 pm
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Perhaps start campaigning for legalisation so they don't have to buy like that?

I'm all for that. But in the meantime

citizenship requires that you have to do things that aren't easy or comfortable,


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 4:43 pm
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I saw one going on a few weeks ago car pulls up lad on bike gets drugs etc, I was up on scaffolding and they didn't see me, I rang the 101 number I even told them it would of been caught on a neighbour's cctv. Not heard anything back though I suspect the police can't be bothered. Ring it in, it becomes a statistic which they eventually have to deal with.


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 4:47 pm
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If they were causing trouble, getting the towns finest scutters on your doorstep causing trouble then reporting it would be a good idea. However this sounds reasonably discreet (because randomly driving to an obscure car park at 11PM is normal behaviour ?) and you mention no problem with the neighbour so I'd just let it lie.

Put it this way, where I'm from you'd be thankful the whole so-solid-crew weren't rocking up and sitting on his front garden passing a spliff around. Then robbing your bikes to pay for it.


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 5:11 pm
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Well it looks like that's 50% of your Saturday night sorted.

You just need the hookers now


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 5:18 pm
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Smoke and hookers doesn't really have the same ring too it though, unless your idea of a good time is a conversation about existentialism followed by 8 chocolate bars.


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 6:53 pm
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Depends where you put the chocolate bars. Fairly sure there a joke about Kit-Kats and four fingers that could work here.


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 7:14 pm
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not outside my Scout hut  

Your Bear Grylls and I claim my £5.00 .


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 7:19 pm
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You need both something useful to give the police like addresses and reg plates. If they are growing on an industrial scale them they will probably be tracking and building evidence to take everyone out of the dealing chain but if it's a home grower then probably not. Either way they don't discuss prosecution. But not bothering is the wrong answer IMO


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 7:20 pm
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The way I see it you can go one of two ways....

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Posted : 06/08/2016 7:26 pm
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Northern hell hole ?

Do they not do drugs down south?


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 7:28 pm
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Not my home but part of my brother's pre-viewing checklist was "ask the drug dealers downstairs to be a bit subtle". TBH they've never been much bother, funnily enough they don't like attention- some punter left their works in the stair but he was, er, disciplined.


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 7:30 pm
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Not up on what's currently available (Uni was a looong time ago..

Did you cane a bit at "uni", then...?


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 7:31 pm
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Your Bear Grylls and I claim my £5.00 .

Hand that fiver back. I'm more popular.


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 8:20 pm
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No caning (or any use at all actually!) but it was about so you gain knowledge anyway!
The reluctance to report is due to events where I grew up. Had 3 local dealers in a rural area that got involved in a bit of a turf war. No's 1 and 2 decided to burn each other's digs down one night (the same night by coincidence) and it left no 3 bricking it! Lots of threats against locals were made so I tend to stay out of such stuff unless it's directly affecting me now. Dealing right in front of me crosses that line, especially when there's kids around the immediate vicinity.

Have emailed the local Community Policing Team with details of car and people, may or may not help but at least I've done my bit.


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 10:44 pm
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I've done my bit.

Indeed. You be sure to wink and finger shoot yourself when you next pass a mirror, eh...


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 11:39 pm
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West Yorkshire plod don't give a stuff, they've been given CCTV with car and people clearly identified.

So far nowt, guess there's time. Personally I'm not bothered about most recreational substances but they have their place. These kids are getting in cars and driving. Bad enough the golf****ers going down the 19th hole and driving home after a pint too many. Having a bunch of stoned teenagers driving in a Corsa that looks like an accident in the Halfords modding department is not what I fancy having to dodge on local roads.

Dealing to kids is a problem. Hope it comes out well.


 
Posted : 07/08/2016 12:51 am
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Call the 101 and report that you think you saw a man with a gun going into the house shouting angrily.

Watch with a few beers on your doorstep report back here.


 
Posted : 07/08/2016 4:27 am
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low level dealing is not an issue the police care about.


 
Posted : 07/08/2016 5:57 am
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My mate lives in a block of 4 flats. He owns his the others are housing assosciation. Dealers moved in , comings and goings at all times day and night. Violence and abusive behaviour directed at existing tennants and locals.
Mate finds class a drugs in the car park, informs local plod. Nothing happens , he only works part time so has time on his hands . Makes own record of reg numbers , has screen shots etc. Local plod still did nothing.

Had to go to county level to get things done , but was part of a bigger bust as the family had a trawler business as well. Local plod is no longer on the force.


 
Posted : 07/08/2016 6:34 am
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Surely the standard STW advice of nipping round and having a polite word is the way to do it, no?


 
Posted : 07/08/2016 7:47 am
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What does

'I don't want to attract trouble to myself, especially as it's obvious I have bikes on the premises'

got to do with drug dealing? 🙄


 
Posted : 07/08/2016 8:02 am
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Maybe drop the people in the car a link to an educational [url= https://www.acast.com/saywhytodrugs/cannabis ]podcast?[/url]


 
Posted : 07/08/2016 8:22 am
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Standard stuff round here unfortunately 🙁

Gone really downhill where I live and it's obvious what they are upto.


 
Posted : 07/08/2016 8:25 am
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Report it with the reg.

As for 'ignore it' crowd. No.


 
Posted : 07/08/2016 8:34 am
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What does

'I don't want to attract trouble to myself, especially as it's obvious I have bikes on the premises'

got to do with drug dealing?

Never lived anywhere rough? I would suspect it's a worry that what happened to my neighbour when I lived in a Leeds Tower Block, he'd complained to the kids hanging about on the stairs and ended up with his door kicked in, flat trashed, including some bodily fluids and solids modern art work in the living room.

Some people are unpleasant and willing to actually do things rather thank post comedy pictures on bike forums about hoofing in the slats or something 🙂


 
Posted : 07/08/2016 8:40 am
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You know there is a market and that the police are not interested so get into the business yourself. Make a few quids.


 
Posted : 07/08/2016 10:45 am
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No's 1 and 2 decided to burn each other's digs

Completely misread that, thought it was an RSPCA issue for a moment.


 
Posted : 07/08/2016 10:50 am
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The car was back again this morning, another deal took place by the looks of it. Going to keep a log to forward on if they reply to my original email.

As for bikes and drug dealers? Drug-addicts tend to need money to fund their habit. Bikes are worth money and easy to sell on. I like my bikes very much and they cost a few quid too. I'd like to keep them please.


 
Posted : 07/08/2016 11:02 am
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Is it not better that it is regular customers and not lots of random people?


 
Posted : 07/08/2016 11:04 am
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Are career junkies inherently more honest than occasional partakers? Every day's a school day.


 
Posted : 07/08/2016 11:11 am
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If you havent lived need some scrote dealer, then you really cant comment on the hassle they cause around the area.
One moved in close to us a few years ago. 20-something single mum, pleasant enough to speak to. Then we noticed the numerous cars blocking the road regularly while someone went into the flat she was in. Then the numerous boyfriends she'd have round, which ended up in a fight in the street between 2 of them. Then the drunken/drugged youths shouting in the street at 2am. Then the cars full of 18 - 25yo's (probably at the lower age range) who turned up at 5am, with stereos on 11, who thought it was good fun to run their cars round the block we live in as fast as they could.
It wasnt fun. Luckily, the Police did take an interest, after complaints from pretty much everyone in the street, and she was taken away, and finally evicted after paying no rent.


 
Posted : 07/08/2016 11:17 am
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I'd report them to the Police without thinking twice about it.


 
Posted : 07/08/2016 12:55 pm
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When I lived in a flat the guy opposite was dealing and the woman directly below, the guy opposite best neighbour I've ever had, took my parcels in when I was at work, quiet no parties couldnt ask for more except the odd police raid at 7am he was ok, his customers all seemed to respect him and he had a kid so mostly kept it away from the flats.

The woman downstairs a nightmare, rows at 3am dragged away by the police loads of times, beat up her boyfriends or customers. Her son and his mates would go out on there flash mountain bikes (never seen a trail) dealing from there man bags. Must of been first few weeks after we moved in, I was going out on one of my bikes, he was in the hallway and smiled saying nice bike have to get one, I had my d-lock in my hand at the time, I made it very clear what would happen if mine went missing and the first place I would be sticking said lock. 8 years later no thefts, but pretty sure he would of.

Dealing is part of modern day life, just log it and report it.


 
Posted : 07/08/2016 2:11 pm
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Different ball game from your uni days, when you popped around to your local pothead for an eighth. Drugs, even so called soft drugs have much closer links to other types of organised crime these days. Thank god it's not your teenage kids getting involved. Report it.


 
Posted : 07/08/2016 7:44 pm
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About as likely round here as a gangland drive by shooting. ie. not at all.


 
Posted : 07/08/2016 9:29 pm
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The police are useless. All they care about is paperwork. Every time I have come in contact with police they have shown no interest and are often patronising e.g you should have a stereo that is removable.


 
Posted : 08/08/2016 6:17 am
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^ I disagree.

Our daughter was grabbed by a man in Newcastle when we were there on holiday, pushed away by my wife, he grabbed and kissed our daughter, she is 5. WHen I called 101 after my wife told me they took it really seriously. Unable to catch the person, but I was very impressed with how serious the event was taken.

I had only called in just in case it had happened before and they wanted a record of it.


 
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I've only rung 101 a couple of times and both times resulted in something being done about what were relatively minor things.

Quite impressed by the police TBH, can't be an easy job when half the population believed you should commit unlimited resources to their problem, and the other half refers to you as the po-po and acts like a middle class white gangster behind a keyboard.


 
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Drugs in one of those where they are looking at the entire problem, just because you don't see an immediate reaction doesn't mean nothing is happening. Better to get them and the levels above on something that will stick than have let a load go and ditch a load of long term work.


 
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Our daughter was grabbed by a man in Newcastle when we were there on holiday, pushed away by my wife, he grabbed and kissed our daughter, she is 5.

Thats a bit more sinister than dealing a bit of weed though.

I would imagine the level of response you get from the police depends on the level of crime in your area. If you call the met to suggest the local youth are dealing weed I imagine you'd get a different response to if you called the local rural station.

I also expect that the problems associated with having a dealer living nearby are directly related to the substances they are dealing and if they are a careful dealer with any intelligence then you wouldn't be able to tell they were there.


 
Posted : 08/08/2016 9:20 am
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Well, the drug dealer is no longer here 😀

A police van came round about half an hour ago and parked outside. Then two patrol cars. They went in the block of flats then 5 minutes later they came back out with him in handcuffs and put him in the back of the van.

Feel a bit happy that I did report what I saw, even if it didn't directly result in action.


 
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Excellent result OP.


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 8:35 pm
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The thing is, it's not the drug dealing that's antisocial - it's the ****s they attract to your street.

We had a dealer a few doors down (Hebden Bridge - whattya gonna do?). He was attracting all of the local pond life to our street at night and into the early hours. We'd get people banging on our door ("sorry mate wrong house") jumping up and down on the cars, and lots of noise.

Anyway the residents went to the next NPT meeting and suddenly "tackling antisocial behaviour in X Street" became a priority. In short, the police booted the guy's front door in one Saturday morning, led him away in cuffs, and removed all his cannabis plants.

If he'd been a bit more subtle about it, and told his friends and customers to behave themselves with the neighbours, then no-one would have cared. But he didn't. So we did.

And very, very fair play to the police for acting on local concerns.


 
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Well, the drug dealer is no longer here
A police van came round about half an hour ago and parked outside. Then two patrol cars. They went in the block of flats then 5 minutes later they came back out with him in handcuffs and put him in the back of the van.
Feel a bit happy that I did report what I saw, even if it didn't directly result in action.

Excellent. A result


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 8:41 pm
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We had a dealer a few doors down (Hebden Bridge - whattya gonna do?). H

Hangingroyd Road?


 
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No Brant it wasn't but it doesn't surprise me there are similar problems elsewhere in the town.


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 9:48 pm
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What does
'I don't want to attract trouble to myself, especially as it's obvious I have bikes on the premises'

got to do with drug dealing?


A trick question, Shirley?
What do you need, a PowerPoint presentation with bullet-points?
🙄


 
Posted : 24/11/2016 8:55 pm