Overtaking and there’s another car a couple of hundreds ahead that’ll be overtaking shortly? Pull in, catch up, indicate and pull out.
See here's a thing: if we are all diligently observing the 2 second rule then (at 70mph) you should be 62.5 meters ahead of the car you are overtaking before you pull in (so you don't pull into their safe gap) and you should pull out 62.5 meters before you start to overtake the next car.
So that means if you need a 125 meter gap or more to pull in.
So I just stay in the middle lane 😉
I drove across France a couple of weeks ago. Almost everyone in the right hand lane (other side of the road so equivalent to our left hand lane) unless actually overtaking. Overtaking and there’s another car a couple of hundreds ahead that’ll be overtaking shortly? Pull in, catch up, indicate and pull out. Someone traveling at 80 overtaking a car doing 79.5? No problem, slow down, wait and overtake when they pull in.
It amazes me that the two are not connected in many people's heads and that people are quite willing to follow one rule and completely disregard another. Motorway's are spectacularly bad for this in the UK.
French motorway's are infinitely better in most aspects ... yet the same people driving through a major town/city (you must presume) often drive much worse?
The UK's disconnect seems to be motorway lane discipline and minimum gaps... whereas the French seems to be that they don't/won't apply the same to semi-urban and urban driving as autoroutes?
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</p><p></p><p>True.</p><p></p><p>But the behaviour you describe would fail a driving test.</p><p></p><p>HTH</p></p><p>Its a limit, not a target.</p><p>HTHs
No it wouldn’t. However tailgating would.
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Not driving at the limit will fail a driving test ? Urban Myth .
My friend is a driving instructer and he reckons as long as you are driving at 3/4 of the posted speed limit thats more than enough to not get a fail for failure to make progress, or some other non truth speeders preach.
The speed LIMIT also does not take into account the weather ( I wasnt speeding when I hit the black ice and skiided into the lolliplop lady and 4 schoolkids your honor , i was doing 30mph)
The speed LIMIT does not take into account traffic conditions. - parked cars, horses, bicycles, school kids , mums with push chairs , Time of day etc . You smash on if you want , I'll just knock a few mph off and give myself a second more too react to the road hazards .
Where did I say don't drive to the conditions?
If the conditions are good can you give me one decent reason why you wouldn't drive to within a few mph of the limit?
Not driving at the limit will fail a driving test ? Urban Myth .
My friend is a driving instructer and he reckons as long as you are driving at 3/4 of the posted speed limit thats more than enough to not get a fail for failure to make progress, or some other non truth speeders preach.
I failed my first driving test for this. I argued my point and he said that 25 was inappropriate in a 30 limit with no reason not to drive at 30.
(Fail notes said hesitancy and not driving at an appropriate speed for the road conditions)
Thats not not an urban myth, or second hand information. I was there. It happened on Fifth Avenue in York on the way back to where the old Test Centre used to be. After a totally clean driving test with no other issues.
And it’s not a “non truth that speeders preach” in any way.
mainly because it’s totally true, and secondly because I’m not a speeder, or an advocate of it (I drive at 60 on motorways generally, in lane 1 with the lorries !)
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Thing is there's a difference between staying in the middle/outside lane to overtake sensibly, and just being a lazy/ignorant/self righteous bastard and sitting there in the middle (or outside) lane and causing slower drivers to have to overtake and so causing more traffic to go over to the outside lane and then ... tailgating happens (of course some people just drive like bumholes anyway).
Just like on the trails, let the faster riders through and everyone is happy... right?
I also failed my first driving test for doing 30 in a 40 and "Not maintaining the flow of traffic".
I failed my first driving test for this. I argued my point and he said that 25 was inappropriate in a 30 limit with no reason not to drive at 30.
I recently got stuck behind someone who drove for several miles doing an indicated 30-35 mph on a road with a 60 limit, which in reality means they were doing roughly 27-30 mph; the weather was fine and dry, there is absolutely no reason a driver can’t maintain a steady speed around the actual limit, ie 55+ mph, to drive slower is just being wilfully obstructive. It was impossible to overtake due to visibility and steady oncoming traffic, and it was incredibly frustrating.
my driving instructor used to make me boot it down two particular stretches of NSL road because he'd had pupils fail their tests for not going fast enough on them. I didn't feel comfortable at all. One of them has since been regraded to 40, the other I have never driven down as fast since my test as I did on my lessons!
countzero - what if it had been a tractor or a chaingang of cyclists?
They can automate it. There are bridge cameras that can detect license plates and distance between cars at speed.
Once they have cameras for detecting phone use when driving and automatic bans I will be happier
