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I think it's pretty clear now that Trump is colluding with Putin to decide how to dismantle/carve up Ukraine in their own interests, in a bi-latteral manner without consultation or agreement from those it actually affects.

Well he is currently into beach front developments.

 

 


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 8:49 am
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‘For thee not me’ as they say in Doge 🙂

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/mar/17/trump-golf-taxes

 

 

 


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 9:04 am
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When Nam was on he was happily living the playboy lifestyle

He even suggested that because he slept with so many women, the risk of STD was his own personal Vietnam 

 


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 9:38 am
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The White House or the Washington home for rapists?

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How long before the Tate brothers get an invite?  

(bet the couch didn't consent)


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 10:20 am
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Posted by: dudeofdoom

‘For thee not me’ as they say in Doge 🙂

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/mar/17/trump-golf-taxes

 

 

Nothing new there, Trump is interested in

1 the amount of money he can get from this grift

2 all the every people everywhere telling his just how amazing he is

3 being really really shitty to anyone who gets in the way of 1 and 2

 


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 10:22 am
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I do hope he visits his courses in Scotland ,and that folk have time to leave a shit in every hole.

I will have my Janey Godley style protest at the ready.


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 10:34 am
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The White House or the Washington home for rapists?

What is that? Is it from a quiz show where it's "who is the odd one out and why?

 

 


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 11:36 am
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Voice of america now gone too.

"Voice of America launched in 1942 with a mandate to combat Nazi and Japanese propaganda. Its first broadcast - made on a transmitter loaned to the US by the BBC - stated a modest purpose."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvge4l109r3o

 


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 11:45 am
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Voice of america now gone too.

 

It is much more than that, we are seeing the complete removal of freedom of speech in the US.

 

I don't think people are grasping how far this will go, and how far the cancer will spread.


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 11:50 am
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Trump has made it pretty clear what he thinks of NATO.

Trump dislikes all forms of multilateralism, he prefers bilateral deals.  Not that he's any good at doing them,  but they fit into the win/lose model that he appears to live by.  So something like the EU, the world's bigliest multilateral agreement, he hates that because it does not operate (well not much) on a win/lose basis.  Plus to negotiate with it you need to understand its internal arrangements and politics.  Which is what losers do.


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 12:13 pm
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This video partly focuses on Trump's relationship with Putin and tries to explain it in terms of his narcissism. It goes far beyond that though to attempt to explain why Trump does many of the things he does. I thought it was a very useful insight into understanding him. 


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 12:30 pm
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Posted by: MSP

Voice of america now gone too.

 

It is much more than that, we are seeing the complete removal of freedom of speech in the US.

 

I don't think people are grasping how far this will go, and how far the cancer will spread.

US funding for Radio Free Europe has gone as well - wise heads pointing out that it means less pushback on those "other" regimes who are upping their misinformation campaigns

 


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 3:20 pm
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The White House or the Washington home for rapists?

What is that? Is it from a quiz show where it's "who is the odd one out and why?

 

 

2 are adjudicated rapists, the other only ****s soft furnishings.

 


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 3:27 pm
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I do hope he visits his courses in Scotland ,and that folk have time to leave a shit in every hole.

I will have my Janey Godley style protest at the ready.

 

A mate and his pals from Ayr has plans if he visits Troon golf course, it’ll make the news 😉 

 


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 4:06 pm
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Posted by: greyspoke

Trump dislikes all forms of multilateralism, he prefers bilateral deals.  Not that he's any good at doing them,  but they fit into the win/lose model that he appears to live by.  So something like the EU, the world's bigliest multilateral agreement, he hates that because it does not operate (well not much) on a win/lose basis.  Plus to negotiate with it you need to understand its internal arrangements and politics.  Which is what losers do.

Internal workings and politics of the EU? Which contains 27 countries? Waaaaay more complicated than.... man, that's a lot of... wow... oh look, a squirrel...

 

 


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 4:33 pm
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"A mate and his pals from Ayr has plans if he visits Troon golf course, it’ll make the news 😉"

Good luck with that, the security cordon around Chequers was huge when he last visited 😕


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 4:34 pm
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the other only ****s soft furnishings.

A drapist?

 

Good luck with that, the security cordon around Chequers was huge when he last visited

I met someone who was working as a chambermaid at Turnberry a few years back. Following Trump's first election the staff were all called together to have enhanced security measures explained to them in the light of his new status and how that would elevate threat of attack on any of his properties. Expecting to hear how security would be enhanced for their safety, or how to seek cover or whatever, what they instead heard was how as chambermaids, waitresses, cooks etc, in the event of some sort of bomb or active shooter scenario they were expected to muster and form a human shield around any of the the Trumps.


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 5:08 pm
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in the event of some sort of bomb or active shooter scenario they were expected to muster and form a human shield around any of the the Trumps.

 

Haha, presumably these staff members weren't on minimum wage 😲


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 5:28 pm
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Haha, presumably these staff members weren't on minimum wage 😲

If they got a hole in one they had to buy every one a drink


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 5:33 pm
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Good luck with that, the security cordon around Chequers was huge when he last visited 😕

And yet they claimed afterwards that the TASS News agency reporter who ended up INSIDE THE OVAL OFFICE while Trump, Zelensky and the majority of the US administration were present was there without permission/clearance 🤔


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 5:40 pm
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as chambermaids, waitresses, cooks etc, in the event of some sort of bomb or active shooter scenario they were expected to muster and form a human shield around any of the the Trumps.

What utter bollocks, ffs 🙄 


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 6:07 pm
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the other only ****s soft furnishings.

A drapist?

Given the wider subject I'm not sure I should have laughed at that.

 


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 6:14 pm
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Voice of america now gone too.

"Voice of America launched in 1942 with a mandate to combat Nazi and Japanese propaganda

The irony being that the President actively wants "other" regimes to feed propaganda to his citizens 🙁 

 


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 7:24 pm
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This is interesting - the Supreme Court pushing back against Trump’s call to impeach a judge. Is it possible the rule of law will stand firm against Trump’s pressure?

BBC News - Top US Supreme Court justice rebukes Trump's call to impeach judge
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8j0vwpkwkxo


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 7:39 pm
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This is interesting - the Supreme Court pushing back against Trump’s call to impeach a judge. Is it possible the rule of law will stand firm against Trump’s pressure?

time will tell

 

the Supreme Court may well be supreme - but it has no powers or resources to enforce any of its decisions. The Judicial Branch of government doesn't have its own police force that can be sent out to act on its behalf. The court makes the laws, the federal government is then supposed to (and is expected to)  apply and enforce those rulings.

Last time round for all his bluster, Trump generally complied with court rulings, usually saying he'd appeal, but in reality he'd just forget about it an move on to his next bullshit.

This time round he seems happy to just plow ahead, challenging the courts authority to even make their rulings - and yesterdays deportations, although blocked by a court, the administration just went ahead and did what they wanted anyway.

I think the presidential immunity thing is coming back to bite them. Who could possible have seen that coming.


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 8:12 pm
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But at least he's rescued the USA v Russia ice hockey games.


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 8:18 pm
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The Judicial Branch of government doesn't have its own police force that can be sent out to act on its behalf. The court makes the laws, the federal government is then supposed to

Well I don't know the US system, but it looks like many people are likely in contempt of court by assisting in the breach of the court orders.  Probably a US court does have officers who can, if necessary, go out and feel the collars of such people if they fail to turn up at court when the court decides to commence contempt proceedings.  (That would be the lower courts that originally issued the orders, not any higher courts that decided not to overturn them.)  Whether they would want to do this type of thing is another issue.


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 8:26 pm
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I don't think it was the supreme court, just one of the supreme courts justices, the chief justice though. The reporting sounded to me like it was his personal opinion rather than speaking on behalf of the whole court.

iirc he was one of the justices who sided with the view that the president can do what the **** he likes as the president, so maybe he is getting a bit of buyers remorse for his own stupidity in seeing what he has unleashed. Maybe it would have been a better idea to uphold the law when he should at that point instead of making a frankly idiotic partisan political ruling.


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 9:01 pm
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I have actually just had to Google "is newsweek satire or actual news?" Because this is just getting silly.

The compete disregard of anyone voicing an opposing view is already normalised, this is the sort of thing which will be used to legitimise it, and eventually obligate(ise?) it.

Republicans Push to Make 'Trump Derangement Syndrome' a Mental Illness

https://www.newsweek.com/minnesota-senate-republicans-trump-derangement-syndrome-mental-illness-2045600

 

 

 


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 9:12 pm
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The way I see it, anyone in any government agency who defies a Trump order, will be sacked. At any level.

It's an easy way to purge anyone who's not on board.

Dark, dark times


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 9:15 pm
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What nonsense has Trump said or done today dot com.


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 9:18 pm
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Putin appears to know he has Trump infatuated, and is playing him like a desperate to please teenage girl.

He apparently kept Trump and his wig waiting - the no doubt pretended to be impressed by the Trump as he flirted towards Putin, and kept him happy by agreeing to consider agreeing in the future .. whilst getting Trump excited about possible closer economical ties in the future.

Putin has won the lottery of lotteries with Trump. It just amazes me how Trump is able to continue the destruction of the USA .. Trump has done more damage to NATO than USSR ever managed, and Trump appears blind to see how that is a bedrock of USA power and influence.

There will be some good movies about this; this is a time in history that's gonna have significant discussion. Trumps name will be used alongside those such as Mussolini and Frank Spencer .. a would be dictator, but a bit simple and something of a melt behind the bluster.


 
Posted : 19/03/2025 7:49 am
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Wait, have we finally arrived at Alexi Sayles Mussolini?

Edit, nah, not enough social awareness...


 
Posted : 19/03/2025 8:26 am
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We've been watching Designated Survivor of late and the difference between the fictional POTUS and the current incarnation is increasingly stark!

It's quite depressing. 


 
Posted : 19/03/2025 9:54 am
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The way I see it, anyone in any government agency who defies a Trump order, will be sacked. At any level.

It's an easy way to purge anyone who's not on board.

Dark, dark times

Theres a pattern to it too though. Trump has fired various heads of the military. Not for anything they've said or done, but he seems to have managed to fire all the ones that are black or female and left all the ones that are white and male.

 

He's also done things like fire just enough people from an agency or body to render it useless, rather than simply disbanding the agency. For instance he fired a few people from the National Labor Relations Board. Much to Jeff Bezo's benefit as they were charged with enforcing a ruling against Wholefoods (which he owns). He was trying to prevent his workforce from unionising and the NLRB in the agency that had the role of enforcing a court ruling against Bezos that prevented him from blocking unionisation. 

Trump has fired just enough people from  the agency's board (the black and female ones obvs) to be one less than required by its constitution to be quorate. Which means it exists but can't really do anything. He did that on the same day wholefoods staff voted to unionise, setting a precedent that would benefit all of Amazon's staff. Trump's convenient new friend Bezo's is now rejecting the vote, not on legal grounds but basically on the grounds that theres no agency able to enforce it.


 
Posted : 19/03/2025 10:07 am
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There will be some good movies about this; this is a time in history that's gonna have significant discussion.

Oh god yes - this kind of thing is great for 'content', pretty much for ever. On any given day flick through the TV channels and see if you can't find at least one film or documentary about Germany in the 30s and 40s and going forward the Trump era will never, ever run out opportunities to be re-examined and re-told.

Everyone around trump will never, for the rest of their lives, long after Trump is dead and gone, cease be the focus of one investigation or another.

As long as we're alive and this site still exists this thread won't end.


 
Posted : 19/03/2025 10:21 am
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The way I see it, anyone in any government agency who defies a Trump order, will be sacked. At any level.

Yet if they follow the order they will be in contempt of court.  That's your constitutional crisis right there.


 
Posted : 19/03/2025 10:36 am
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As long as we're alive and this site still exists this thread won't end.

What a depressing thought! 😳


 
Posted : 19/03/2025 10:38 am
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This site won't survive unfortunately, small businesses like this will soon be strangled out of existence by the continual drift to the right. What we see in Trumps America will happen hear soon, there is no resistance to the oligarchs power lust in our own government as they continue to burden employees and small businesses to benefit the oligarchs and corporations.

And the thig that is quite clear is that they only count success in winning and losing, they would rather win a 20 second race than be second in a 10 second race, they are destroying the economies they profit from, but that doesn't matter to them, as long as they "win" relative to everyone else they don't care that they are creating a shitter world to live in, as long as they come out on top it doesn't matter to them. They are not interested in being near the top in a clean, happy and more equal world, they prefer to be at the pinnacle of a failed world as long as the absoluteness of their power is clear to the losers


 
Posted : 19/03/2025 10:54 am
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Yeah it's reached a critical point now, the Legislative branch has already caved so it's down to whether the Judicial branch caves or not (they haven't so far but it will depend on SCOTUS very soon). That said, even if by some miracle SCOTUS grew a back-bone and pushed back (declaring the Trump administration's actions to be an illegal over-reach of the Executive branch), what difference would it make?

Impeachment would need the Legislative branch which seems unlikely now. Not sure what options that leaves apart from the military or mass action by the population? I can't see the military intervening, not least because Trump's replaced some key leadership (including within the JAG so commanders now have no one they can trust to check the legality of any orders they receive) and there doesn't look to be enough disapproval within the population (or much chance there will be, no matter how much eggs rise in price). History has taught us dictatorships often come into being in part through general apathy in the population, which with hindsight is hard to understand but as we're living through it now it's easy to see how it happens (not helped by the dictator controlling a large part of the media and therefore influencing the messaging and restricting the ability of people to organise any resistance).

So what does prevent Trump becoming a dictator at this point? Assassination might as Vance is unlikely to have the support to carry on Project 2025 but who knows. 


 
Posted : 19/03/2025 11:50 am
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Yep, when assassinations are the only hope of a way out it has got pretty desperate.  There are also quite a number to carry out!  


 
Posted : 19/03/2025 12:30 pm
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On any given day flick through the TV channels and see if youcan'tfind at least one film or documentary about Germany in the 30s and 40s

But that's about 'other' countries.  When did you last see a documentary about McCarthy?


 
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Yep, when assassinations are the only hope of a way out it has got pretty desperate.  There are also quite a number to carry out!  

Unfortunately, the kind of people that oppose Trump (same/normal/not billionaires) aren't often the kind of people who "take out" presidents. Mostly that's far right nut jobs.  I fear we're stuck with him for some time. 

 


 
Posted : 19/03/2025 1:07 pm
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Impeachment would need the Legislative branch which seems unlikely now.

I'm not so sure - the majority is currently slim, and there's possibly enough in both Houses with a backbone to provide support to the SCOTUS if it came to it. 

The crunch will be the midterms - if he looks likely to lose enough seats/control, and whether he creates a national emergency to prevent them taking place. 

He is commander in chief but do the military swear allegiance to the President or the country?

If this was playing out in some unimportant country, it would fascinating. As its the US, it's ****ing terrifying. 


 
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"Unfortunately, the kind of people that oppose Trump (same/normal/not billionaires) aren't often the kind of people who "take out" presidents. Mostly that's far right nut jobs.  I fear we're stuck with him for some time. "

I listened to a podcast (this one i thin k https://www.preposterousuniverse.com/podcast/2025/02/17/305-lilliana-mason-on-polarization-and-political-psychology/ ) that said propensity for violence was actually pretty similar across left/right groups, it's just that people tend to be more violent when the other "side" is in power as they feel ignored. Most of the more recent violence is because left wing governments are in charge and they are reacting to perceived threats like immigration. In the 70s/80s there were more left wing groups being violent. (Direct Action Movement, The Angry Brigage). 


 
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