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@ernie the financial crises can be put firmly at Bill Clinton's door. He signed Glass-Stegal allowing commercial banks (with their huge balance sheets) into Investment Banking. This allowed to give/purchase billions in dodgy loans, "restructure them", book handsome upfront fees and hide the risk free / total crap on their balance sheets and report exposure as "insignificant"


 
Posted : 21/01/2017 5:24 pm
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Noble Prize winning economist Paul Krugman disagrees with you jambalaya, he reckons Reaganomics and Reagan-era deregulation led to [i]"the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression"[/i]

[url= http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/01/opinion/01krugman.html ]Reagan Did It[/url]


 
Posted : 21/01/2017 5:40 pm
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He did indeed Ernie - but Krugman does go off on things as this example shows. Oddly his analysis does get back on track towards the end of the article.

He's also quite angry now that his school of economics has become slightly passe. Still his fun to read for a bit of econ aggro!!


 
Posted : 21/01/2017 5:42 pm
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@ernie the financial crises can be put firmly at Bill Clinton's door.

#jambafact 765


 
Posted : 21/01/2017 5:45 pm
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Hang on, Greenspan would be very upset if you let these upstarts try to crash the rankings


 
Posted : 21/01/2017 5:46 pm
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They can afford to make the phones in the US and Foxconn can out their fancy machines there

A 30-40% import tax would be far more expensive for Apple to bear than making the phones in the US

So in other words this part of Trumps MAGA plan involves putting one of America's most successful tech manufacturers at a competitive disadvantage to their immediate rivals (Samsung, HTC, Sony, Xiaomi, Hauwei, Blackberry, etc)?

For the sake of minimum wage jobs that Americans don't want, that are being automated out of existence anyway.


 
Posted : 21/01/2017 6:03 pm
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quite heartening to see so many women(and men) across the world sticking 2 fingers up to trump and the way he ran his campaign.

im sure hes just itching to tweet something about them


 
Posted : 21/01/2017 6:05 pm
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Wow. Things move fast.

[url= https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/20/womens-march-canada-protesters-denied-entry-us ]Even Canadians are struggling to get across the border.[/url]


 
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Apple has a very strong position in their markets and huge profit margins and less than 1% tax paid via Ireland/EU tax dodges means they can afford it all-day-long.


 
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@Jamie why on earth would US border guards admit people to attend a demonstration against the President ? Maybe they wanted to smash up shops and set fire to limos ? Why take the chance ?

Photos and finger prints are standard on entry to the US (maybe less so for Canadians)


 
Posted : 21/01/2017 7:15 pm
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Apple has a very strong position in their markets and huge profit margins and less than 1% tax paid via Ireland/EU tax dodges

Yeah it is all the EU's fault. 😆

"Member states cannot give tax benefits to selected companies — this is illegal under EU state aid rules,"

http://www.businessinsider.de/apple-has-been-fined-by-the-eu-2016-8?r=UK&IR=T


 
Posted : 21/01/2017 7:22 pm
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when youre a narcissistic bully, obsessed with the size of your hands, your ratings and more people turn up to protest your misogyny than celebrate your inauguration

must not tweet...... 👿
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@Jamie why on earth would US border guards admit people to attend a demonstration against the President ? Maybe they wanted to smash up shops and set fire to limos ? Why take the chance ?

Photos and finger prints are standard on entry to the US (maybe less so for Canadians)

I'd love to debate this, but it's just not worth it.


 
Posted : 21/01/2017 8:20 pm
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Or Apple will move their HQ out of the US.


 
Posted : 21/01/2017 8:31 pm
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So he's illiterate, lies and hugely unpopular everywhere. Good job USA. Never mind Bush he's going to make Nixon look good.


 
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Apple has a very strong position in their markets and huge profit margins and less than 1% tax paid via Ireland/EU tax dodges means they can afford it all-day-long.

Apple won't need to afford, the US consumer will pay for a more expensive product.


 
Posted : 21/01/2017 9:35 pm
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The population of Merica is about 324,954,000 according to Wiki 😯
How many are there in the march? 🙄


 
Posted : 21/01/2017 10:07 pm
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The population of Merica is about 324,954,000 according to Wiki

How many turned up to his inauguration?


 
Posted : 21/01/2017 10:25 pm
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Faraway eyes,faraway skies,turned to lies


 
Posted : 21/01/2017 10:28 pm
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Apple has a very strong position in their markets and huge profit margins and less than 1% tax paid via Ireland/EU tax dodges means they can afford it all-day-long
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It's not an EU tax dodge. It's just a tax dodge. We did this before. The EU are pursuing with a 14 bn dollar bill.

At least have the good grace to recognise this.


 
Posted : 21/01/2017 10:40 pm
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The population of Merica is about 324,954,000 according to Wiki
How many turned up to his inauguration?

Firstly, it is Washington so no price for guess whose ground that is.

Secondly, most people after so many years of previous administration I guess can no longer even afford to travel.

Thirdly, I bet most of the images or photos are taken from protest in previous administration strongholds/regions/counties whatever.

... so you want to judge that based on the inauguration ... 😆


 
Posted : 21/01/2017 11:45 pm
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they dont have to travel chewk been demos in every city across the states


 
Posted : 21/01/2017 11:47 pm
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Why is that you idiot? Chewk you need to do more research to how Obama stacks up against Bush


 
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they dont have to travel chewk been demos in every city across the states
😆 @ every cities which cities exactly?
I bet just a handful by comparison to those that do not go on demo. P/s: (just checked) Yeap as predicted the demos come from the stronghold of previous admin.
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Why is that you idiot? Chewk you need to do more research to how Obama stacks up against Bush

pigface can you comprehend what those previous administrations have done to the world?

Are you still living in the past?


 
Posted : 21/01/2017 11:53 pm
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Chewkw this is getting a bit embarrassing, the protests were real. I know people who were literally there, but I guess they might have got confused with a different protest they went to in the past?


 
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Chewkw this is getting a bit embarrassing, the protests were real. I know people who were literally there, but I guess they might have got confused with a different protest they went to in the past?

Give me some evidence that the demos come from All cities ... not just from the stronghold of previous admin. 😆

Absolutely distorted media ... ya, their ratings are going down ... 😆


 
Posted : 22/01/2017 12:02 am
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Could give you all sorts of evidence but bored of your trolling act.


 
Posted : 22/01/2017 12:07 am
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It doesn't count as trolling when it's of such a poor level, chewkw get some sleep and come back tomorrow refreshed. Although god knows what trump will have done by then.


 
Posted : 22/01/2017 12:11 am
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You do realise he's just channeling his inner Trump to wind you up?


 
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Could give you all sorts of evidence but bored of your trolling act.

Assuming you are not trolling pigface.

This is how democracy works ...

Even [b]if I give you 2 million protestors per state that only amount to 100 million protestors[/b] including those that are not even old enough to vote as shown on telly news just now ...

[b]There are nearly 350 million people in Merica[/b] so are you saying the minority voters should refuse to accept the outcome of an election and continue to cause troubles for everyone ...?

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You do realise he's just channeling his inner Trump to wind you up?
slowoldman Just look at the numbers ... the protestors are in the minority.


 
Posted : 22/01/2017 12:12 am
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Yawn


 
Posted : 22/01/2017 12:13 am
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theres a hilarious vid on channel4 of trump whining about media bias- unerestimating the crowd at his inauguration - he reckons there must have extra 1 million people there
but best of all he got God to stop the rain for his speech 😆

hes also really upset that obama got a bigger turnout, and in trum style lying his arse off and saying its the other way round


 
Posted : 22/01/2017 12:14 am
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Do you have proof there are 350 million people, I don't trust Wikipedia as they're pro trump.


 
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theres a hilarious vid on channel4 of trump whining about media bias- unerestimating the crowd at his inauguration - he reckons there must have extra 1 million people there but best of all he got God to stop the rain for his speech

Yes, it's hilarious during the election campaign when Trump asked the media to turn around they refused ... so funny. Because the media is so desperate to show what they want to show they cannot handle the truth. So hilarious ... trust the media is like asking someone to down a bottle of Tabasco neat. 😆

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Do you have proof there are 350 million people, I don't trust Wikipedia as they're pro trump.
😆 Can we include fake media?


 
Posted : 22/01/2017 12:19 am
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Best chants of the marches, as heard by our reporters:

“We want a leader, not a creepy tweeter”
“Can’t build a wall - hands too small”
“He’s orange, he’s gross, he lost the popular vote”

media bias indeed,but its funny


 
Posted : 22/01/2017 12:23 am
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Posted : 22/01/2017 12:32 am
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That's Washington the stronghold of previous admin.

You think it's cheap to travel for the day from other state? You know it's not like Birmingham traveling to London or even Edinburgh ... 😛

Remember people have been made poor from previous admins there isn't a need to really travel unless it is necessary.

On the other hand the protestors being their own state came out in droves ... 😆


 
Posted : 22/01/2017 12:37 am
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Just give it up Chew. You are really embarrassing yourself.


 
Posted : 22/01/2017 12:40 am
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Its only day 1 obvs, but hes still trying to campaign?!?

his press officer also had a shouty rant at the 1st white house press conference today 😳


 
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Just give it up Chew. You are really embarrassing yourself.

😆

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Its only day 1 obvs, but hes still trying to campaign?!?

his press officer also had a shouty rant at the 1st white house press conference today

You do know that protestors have been protesting since before the election don't you and are still protesting regardless of the election result?

So who is right?


 
Posted : 22/01/2017 12:46 am
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Chewkw.. Brexit voting, UKIP loving, Trump sucking, middle lane driving, slat hoofing, Trolling, Trolling, Trolling...


 
Posted : 22/01/2017 12:49 am
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No one linked the Sean Spicer vid yet?

The press conference is really setting out how things are going to be.


 
Posted : 22/01/2017 12:55 am
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No one linked the Sean Spicer vid yet?

is everyne he employs that much of a swivel eyed loon?

hes no cj craig

skip to an hour in...


 
Posted : 22/01/2017 12:57 am
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Nah. It's the first statement. Currently live.

Some interesting nuggets.


 
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The press conference is really setting out how things are going to be.

Worrying on quite a few levels...

http://www.mediaite.com/online/sean-spicers-uses-first-white-house-presser-to-blast-media-over-shameful-reports-on-crowd-sizes

EDIT. Beat me to it.


 
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Just as long as they don't come across as petty

*cough*


 
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Just as long as they don't come across as petty
*cough*

Or just incompetent.

A representative to the press who can barely string together a meaningful sentence...


 
Posted : 22/01/2017 1:05 am
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It's the plan tho. What's the best way to show the regard you hold the press corp in? Send out Sean Spicer.


 
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Yes, all those fake media should be hammered for their twisted fake news.

The media might be able to side one or the other but creating twisted fake news ... ya, their ratings will be hammered. 😆


 
Posted : 22/01/2017 1:07 am
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By it's very content even the most erudite individual would struggle to make it meaningful.
Before we go any further, you do know the meaning of the word fake don't you? Only I'm not sure you're using it right.


 
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Yes, all those fake media should be hammered for their twisted fake news.

Yes. They should. All of them.


 
Posted : 22/01/2017 1:12 am
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I await a detailed breakdown from Spicer about the exact size of Trumps hands and how they compare to previous presidents...

"Media lies!!, Trump can play baseball without a mit, hes got huge hands, no really they are bigly huge, he definitely doesnt have a custom made phone with a teeny keyboard, That is fake news, Obama's hands were infact much smaller, Trumps hands are actually the size of Regan & Linclns combined!!"

maybe its all a cunning plan to get deflate the SNL ratings by writing alec baldwins script for him and have trumo and his press secretary act it out .

I know its first day on the job, but will it be like this all the way up to his impeachment?


 
Posted : 22/01/2017 1:12 am
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This thread needs some dancing


 
Posted : 22/01/2017 1:13 am
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are we actually all stuck in some kind of immersive reality TV experiment?


 
Posted : 22/01/2017 1:15 am
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Do not vote now as this is history repeating itself and you're vote will not count but you may be charged.


 
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Game's up chewkkkw.

Okay I have given the protesting number that is so impossible it is over generous ...

So out of about 350 million Merican people only one city managed 500,000 protesters according to guardian reporter.

The rest of the cities not even half that ... Democracy! Yeaaa! 😆


 
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So out of about 350 million Merican people only one city managed 500,000 protesters according to guardian reporter

What's your point caller? Are people being nasty to your uncle Donald? Don't worry he will be strong enough not to tweet about it and complain that people don't like him.


 
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So the only reason 100,000 people matched through London is because it is an Obama stronghold??

Brilliant stuff.

Your argument seems to be that people didn't match against Trump in cities that are Trump strongholds.

Well duh!


 
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A US cake shop has admitted it was asked to replicate Barack Obama's inauguration cake for Donald Trump.

The man behind the original cake, Duff Goldman from TV show Ace of Cakes, yesterday pointed out that Mr Trump's inauguration cake looked a lot like the one he made for Mr Obama in 2009.

Both cakes feature the same number of nearly identical tiers, with star decorations "shooting" from the top


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-22/donald-trump-staff-asked-bakery-to-copy-obamas-inauguration-cake/8201586
Buttercream Bakery in Washington said this year's inauguration committee commissioned them to re-create Goldman's design.

"While we most love creating original designs, when we are asked to replicate someone else's work we are thrilled when it is a masterpiece like this one," Buttercream Bakeshop said on Instagram.

They credited the design to Goldman in the post.


So either your trying to do all of these things on purpose to keep attention away from other stuff or your staff are incompetant. So which is it


 
Posted : 22/01/2017 4:44 am
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Womens march in Austin

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Posted : 22/01/2017 9:15 am
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There's something amusing about women marching for something without specifically saying what they want to happen. "What do we want?!: Verbose complaining with no specific objective."


 
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Trump inauguration crowd: Sean Spicer's claims versus the evidence - the guardian
https://apple.news/AtCmdC1w0TmayRJIW1s3ZGw

Just too funny!


 
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That's Washington the stronghold of previous admin.

Was Washington not the stronghold of the previous administration in 2009 when Obama was inaugurated? And in fact every other time a new president has been inaugurated?


 
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To be fair to Mr Spicer, he was probably trying to divert attention from the speech his boss made at the CIA.


However, in his remarks at the C.I.A., he wandered off topic several times, at various points telling the crowd he felt no older than 39 (he is 70); reassuring anyone who questioned his intelligence by saying, “I’m, like, a smart person”; and musing out loud about how many intelligence workers backed his candidacy.

“Probably everybody in this room voted for me, but I will not ask you to raise your hands if you did,” Mr. Trump said. “We’re all on the same wavelength, folks."

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/21/us/politics/trump-white-house-briefing-inauguration-crowd-size.html

I know politicians are by definition egomaniacs, but generally not this transparently.


 
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Outofbreath what's amusing about it?


 
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There's something amusing about women marching for something without specifically saying what they want to happen.

As far as I'm aware, they were marching to protest the threat to women's rights, the upholding of Roe v Wade and so on. Also to express disgust at the misogynistic and belittling attitude of Trump towards their sex.

Not quite sure how you missed that.


 
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"Outofbreath what's amusing about it?"

It's something of a feminine trait to complain about a problem for the sake of complaining rather than as a path to a solution.


 
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In spite of this

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Trump and Spicer ranting on, this from Trump was pretty scary tho...

He went on to say that God had stopped rain from falling during his speech, before adding that he had “caught” the news network in a lie: “We caught them in a beauty.
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“And I think they’re going to pay a big price[/u].”

Sounds like freedom of the press will be under attack in [s]Putin's[/s] Trump's America

For added crassness Trump's self-agrandising whingefest was delivered in front of the memorial to CIA agents who died in the line of duty.


 
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A feminine trait 😯 ok good to know what we are dealing with. Have a good day.


 
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"Outofbreath what's amusing about it?"

It's something of a feminine trait to complain about a problem for the sake of complaining rather than as a path to a solution.

So all of the thousands males who are televised and pictured at protests of one kind or another in many different places all over the world over the years, where the object is to simply express opposition to one notion or another, what exactly is the "trait" that is peculiar to them?


 
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I think oob nicely exemplifying what the protests were about 😉


 
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I thought the marches were a protest against a president who's view of women was something akin to a Margaret Atwood novel. Trump and 'The Sons of Jacob'.


 
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Complaining about a problem with no path to solution, sounds more like trump.


 
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"So all of the thousands males who are televised and pictured at protests of one kind or another in many different places all over the world over the years, where the object is to simply express opposition to one notion or another, what exactly is the "trait" that is peculiar to them?"

Well yeah, protesting is often a bit vague and pointless IMHO.

It's just especially amusing in this case AFAIC.


 
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"Complaining about a problem with no path to solution, sounds more like trump."

Yeah, I laughed even harder at Trump's speech. I kept thinking "Hasn't it occurred to you that if that was a simple thing to deliver it would already have been delivered."

As Obama said, reality bites. Listing aspirations is easy, delivering isn't.


 
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Well yeah, protesting is often a bit vague and pointless IMHO.

Then your opinion is profoundly uninformed and unintelligent. Protesting of one sort or another has been the vehicle of immense change from the Suffragettes to the Vietnam War to the Jarrow March, to Kristalnacht. That much is self evident. Denying the facts makes you look like a bit of a fool tbh.


 
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