Honestly I'm a little more optimistic having seen fox news are coming round to the idea of a Clinton 3rd term 😉
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/08/03/fox-news-poll-clinton-leads-trump-by-10-points-both-seen-as-flawed.html
As he cannot carry his "own" party he wont carry the electorate
Farage very popular with a certain type repellent to the majority
and back again 🙂
Was going to start a neighbour/boundary fence thread but keeping it in one place
He told a cheering crowd in Arizona that he would secure the border, and left open the possibility that millions of illegal immigrants be deported.
Hours earlier, he met Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto but said they had not discussed financing the wall.
The president later insisted he had told Mr Trump Mexico would not pay.
He accused his Democratic rival Hillary Clinton of wanting to grant amnesty to undocumented immigrants and of advocating "open border" policies.
Reacting to Mr Trump's visit to Mexico, she said he had "choked" by not asking his hosts to pay for his wall.
Like any good keyboard warrior, forgot to actually mention the big issues when he popped round to see his neighbour
He seems to be getting more mentally unstable each day. Could he be sectioned?
Every time I see or hear that racist, daughter fancying, tiny handed, dead red squirrel wearing **** nugget, I'm reminded of the line in Sage Francis's Makeshift Patriot: "so wave your flag with pride, especially the white part"
He is a racist in a business suit, I'm sure the illegal immigrant stance he has will only extend to those of countries he feels are a coloured threat to his utopia.
mikes posts are not that bad and that is a little unfair 😉
Nate Silver calls it for Hillary
[url= http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo ]FiveThirtyEight[/url]
I think even Trump gets it now.
chubstr - MemberEvery time I see or hear that racist, daughter fancying, tiny handed, dead red squirrel wearing **** nugget, I'm reminded of the line in Sage Francis's Makeshift Patriot: "so wave your flag with pride, especially the white part"
TBH just about every line applies... He's got the megaphone, promising to make heads roll.
Neil Degrasse-Tyson made a good point the other day. On the US ballot, there should be a option to select none of the above. If that option wins, then both parties have to submit new candidates.
As at the moment.....
I haven't followed this thread, but I just read [url= http://theoatmeal.com/comics/fireworks ]this on Oatmeal[/url].
[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36854572 ]Still thee best Trump wall[/url]
From the Beeb:
Meanwhile Rick Wilson, a conservative political consultant who has embraced Evan McMullin's third-party presidential bid, called Mr Trump's speech "hideous word vomit".
I may adopt that phrase.
Trump's "Maginot Line..." 😆
Neil Degrasse-Tyson made a good point the other day. On the US ballot, there should be a option to select none of the above. If that option wins, then both parties have to submit new candidates.
We should have that too...!
This should be interesting, Melania Trump is suing the Daily Mail for $150 million over claims that she was a sex worker. Whoever loses, we win! 😉
[url=BBC News] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37253025 [/url]
She's absolutely not a sex worker.
She is married to and presumably sleeps with billionaire Donald Trump... because of his charming personality and great sense of humour.
@shermer - yes indeed. Daily Mail has already published a retraction, that won't save them from a world of legal pain and expense.
Trump is sadly the better of two very poor candidates. The outcome is far from certain imo
I imagine his devastatingly good looks came into to somewhere as well as his lovely hair and his teeny tiny handsShe is married to and presumably sleeps with billionaire Donald Trump... because of his charming personality and great sense of humour.
😆Whoever loses, we win!
😯Trump is sadly the better of two very poor candidates
Unless he is stood next to Hitler No
i think we will all agree they are two tainted candidates and hardly the best of the best but to think trump is best you need to be a redneck a little racist, incredibly stupid or a combination of all three
@shermer - yes indeed. Daily Mail has already published a retraction, that won't save them from a world of legal pain and expense.
I see they tried the old 'we published the allegation while making clear it wasn't true' trick. It will be nice to see that defence failing miserably. Let's hope they have a clause in their libel insurance about reckless publication leaving them with the entire bill.
Happy days!
Trump is sadly the better of two very poor candidates.
You get loonier by the day.
I see they tried the old 'we published the allegation while making clear it wasn't true' trick
Like most of what Trump say?
You get loonier by the day.
Odd, who is more dangerous, the bloke who knows how to play the media like a fiddle, or the woman who sends top secret information to her own unsecure email server to avoid FOI laws?
As far as I know (and this comes from watching episodes of 'The Good Wife' lol) libel laws are different in the US- something along the lines of having to prove that you [i]didn't[/i] libel someone, whereas in the UK you have to prove that you did..
who is more dangerous
What is this piss easy questions for beginners?
Trump is sadly the better of two very poor candidates. The outcome is far from certain imo
😯 bonkers
yes indeed. Daily Mail has already published a retraction, that won't save them from a world of legal pain and expense.
This is just a part of the strategy of introducing the inflammatory topic, stepping back, then letting the hard of thinking run with it.
Trump uses the same by making a statement, for example, that a particular racial group are violent druggies that need imprisioningbut what are you going to do? Eh? Eh?
Blue touch paper well and truly lit.
There was a more recent campaign in this country where the same was used. I can't remember what it was though. The same level of dodgy tactics were used.
Trump is sadly the better of two very poor candidates. The outcome is far from certain imo
Better in what way? Could you be a bit more specific as I just see a crazy attention seeking idiot?
I know Jamba spouts nothing but drivel, but that's a bit harsh captainsasquatch.
😆
Comment about Trumps speech the other night
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The best part about Trump's plan is that it only needs two things to be successful:
1. Some trains
2. Ovens.</p>— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) September 1, 2016
And quite a few people have compared the current situation in the US to Germany in the 1930's.
So the Dacre Daily had to back down.
She may not have been a "sex worker" then, but she sure as hell is one now.
Trump is sadly the better of two very poor candidates.
You are John Coleshaw, and I claim my 5 pounds.
And quite a few people have compared the current situation in the US to Germany in the 1930's.
I am sure they have made that comparison so as to demonise Trump but the key differemce is he wants to deport people in the US illegally which is something the current law requires but its just not enforced. As he pointed our 1 million Mexicans enter the US legally everyday.
Hillary is looking increasingly in trouble over these emails - FBI trnascripts show her defence to questioning was the "I can't remember" this time due to having a stroke in 2012. Can't remember ever being given security training on what was classified material and relying on aids to only ever send her non-classified material 😯
2 and a bit months to go
the only thing required to demonise Trump is to quote him.so as to demonise Trump
Except he won the nomination, really quite easily. He was up against a weak field,msound familiar ?
As I have said many times I thiught he'd drop out humiliated and had zero chance of winning even the GOP nomination. Now he is in a 2 horse race for The White House. He could win, he really could.
he cannot even win over all the republican party and he has the appeal to middle ground voters that Corbyn does. That is before we even get to the Latino and thr Black vote and the female vote
He is essentially half way between a bond villain and an Austin powers villain and his eau de cologne is hints of narcissistic megalomaniacal racist
[url= https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/20/donald-trump-jnr-compares-refugees-poisoned-skittles-twitter-reacted ]Junior is a chip of the ol' block[/url] 🙄
Junior is a chip of the ol' block
Aye - comparing the "politically correct agenda" of Syrian refugees to eating Skittles. Amazing.
But [url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37416457 ]as the BBC points out[/url] plenty of people are prepared to defend him and agree with that position!
Well just caught the second half of the debate, apparently Trump stronger to start but looked to get lost and more Trump like, the fact check isn't looking as good for Trump either. The commentators handed it to Clinton and the awkwardness of the Trump camp after was telling with all the Clinton's meeting and saying hello to people in the crowd.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-presidential-debate-fact-check?lo=ut_a1
Trump-Clinton, if ever there was a sound reason for dictatorship its there, how did a country that gave us the Rooservolts, the Kennedys, Bush Snr and Obama get into this state?
What the hell....do 1 million Mexicans really enter US everyday!!!
The population of Mexico is less than 130 million..if that number was correct Mexico would be deserted in about 5 months
Gwaelod - maybe they all go back again in the evening?!!
I really don't get all the vitriolic hatred for Clinton. Mainly in the american press and sections of its public. A few on here obviously really dislike her - Can you explain?
yes I know she is a career washington insider with a long record of being paranoid about privacy and thats a reason to dislike her but why the level of hatred?
A few on here obviously really dislike her - Can you explain?
I don't have a full understanding of why she is so unpopular, but imagine Cherie Blair was the leader of the leader of the Labour party and see how that makes you feel.
Believe it or not, part of the reason is the fact she's a woman!
I work with a lot of 'Mericans.
The majority seem to hate Clinton, even the ones that don't like Trump seem to hate Clinton more.
Speaking to some of them and there is a problem that anything seen as vaguely socialist/leftie is accused of being communism. There is a great fear and hatred of communism.
It seems that once you get outside California and New York, most of them would appear as gun toting red necks to us.
There is complete disillusionment with main stream politicians, hence the rise of Trump.