How close is he to breaching the gag order again?
He seems to be being careful just to attack the judge who didnt include himself in the restrictions.
I guess he thinks it is the cost of being a judge but he wasnt willing to tolerate his staff being targeted.
A concept the orange buffoon probably cant really understand but is still managing to take advantage of.
It wouldn't surprise me if the judge was considering amending the gag order to make it tighter.
trump's comments and posts are intended to denigrate the judge, impugn his professional good name and affect him personally.
I have little doubt there is a limit to how much of this the judge will allow.
trump's volume control is permanently set to max except when he's in court where he sits like a naughty child scowling at the grown-ups; that absence of volume control is getting increasingly tiresome and will, I hope, result in 'consequences'.
The odious orange one will be on the stand tomorrow, Mon 6 Nov, in the NY fraud case.
That could be very interesting.
Mr trump, you are a fraudster - is that correct?
It should be fun. I'll have the popcorn ready. Want to bet he tries to grandstand and make speeches and loses his temper?
His defense will be its all the accountants fault - he didn't do detail I bet
If previous form is anything to go by he'll sit there looking petulant but do his best to say nothing at all.
or maybe he will just stonewall - "I can't remember" " Plead the 5th amendment"
But I bet he will try to grandstand. He will be on the stand under oath
His defense will be its all the accountants fault – he didn’t do detail I bet
I thought that there had already been a finding by Judge Engoran that fraud had been committed by Trump Org. This is now about how much money they defrauded out of banks, insurance companies and tax payers by inflating and deflating asset prices. They then have to pay that back (hundreds of millions).
I fully expect the judge to instruct/request that trump's answers are restricted to yes or no - wherever possible.
The judge, IMO, will not tolerate any attempted grandstanding.
As for pleading the 5th, if he does so the judge is fully entitled in law to take an adverse inference from the refusal to answer.
Stonewalling is likely to be unsuccessful given the mountain of documents the DA's office has and will use to remind him of what he claims to not remember.
This case is about inflating the value of assets to secure better lending terms but what happened to the allegations that assets were undervalued when submitting tax returns?
That would/should be of interest to the IRS as it is tax avoidance/evasion.
Got him either way. Either inflated worth so fraud or correct worth so tax evasion.
This case is about inflating the value of assets to secure better lending terms
The case has already been decided though, the Judge found Trump Org. to be guilty and the process of having his business licence revoked is currently awaiting an appeal hearing. This is just about the limit of liability and a value of the remedy
I thought it was both though; elevated values for the loans/ego and then reduced values when it comes to paying taxes?
Would be a shame if this were to lead to another criminal trial eh?
Trump etc have been found guilty of 1 charge, fraudulently inflating the value of their properties, I think there are 5 or 6 other charges, (plus disgorgement), where intent has to be proven, hence the trial, where the prosecution has to prove intent.
Yup. So now we know - grandstanding and being angry that the great Trump is being held to account by all these little people
Just picked up the BBC live feed, sounds fun.
So if the defence team can't control their client, what will the judge do?
Sweepstake on the next fine?
As far as I can tell this case is about over valuing his estate to gain better loan terms and now he is saying that they are undervalued, will the IRS be interested in his statement?
So if the defence team can’t control their client, what will the judge do?
the Judge said he will throw Trump out of the courtroom and draw every negative inference from his lack of testimony
Trump had previously undervalued his property to avoid tax - he has over the years given massively different valuations depending what cost him less. I think IRS will be waiting their turn
I can't wait for the odious orange one's press conference when he gets off the stand - either at end of day or earlier if the judge kicks him off.
He really is tying himself in knots but, no doubt, his base will see it as 'sticking it to the man'.
Trump case today...
The state is asking about a 2021 financial statement. Trump says he thinks it's accurate - he hopes so.
“I was so busy in the White House,” he says, adding his focus was on China and Russia.
"For the record, you weren't president in 2021 were you?" prosecutor Kevin Wallace asks.
Trump says no.
Trump sits up and smirks with his arms crossed when Kise stands up to object to a line of questions about a 2012 interview with The Wall Street Journal.<br />That year, they told a reporter that 40 Wall Street was worth $600m. He said he doesn’t remember if he is the “DJT” in an email about it. He also doesn’t know if his email at the Trump Organization is his email.<br />“I don’t know,” he said. “Not that I know. Might be.”<br />He eventually conceded it was him.<br />Court breaks for lunch. Trump makes no comment outside the courtroom to the waiting media.
The judge must be pulling his hair out... how long before they do him on some sort of contempt of court charge?
I love that in a case where Trump stands accused of inflating the worth of his property portfolio he's standing in court saying that in those statements they were in fact undervalued. Well,the thing is, thats not a good thing either and your accused of doing that too 🙂
On a side note..... if theres one good to come from all of this - theres lots of choice for Trump's official Whitehouse Portrait.
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Trump in court:
Counsel: did you prepare the 2021 financial statement
Trump: ‘I was so busy in the White House, focusing on Russia and China and keeping our country safe’
Counsel: you weren’t president then
https://twitter.com/jonsopel/status/1721571651513405832?s=61&t=ucVo0ItO-6o8jD0p0YhE6g
Well of course you under value assets for tax purposes and over value when applying for credit...it's called fraud. Tax fraud, and insurance fraud, etc.
it’s called fraud.
I think in his 2016 presidential debate with Clinton he called it 'smart'
The tax system in the US is so heavily stacked in favour of the rich. There are so many legal loopholes that you can minimise your tax bill it's just stupid and greedy and obvious to lie. His base will be lapping up all this victimhood and witchhunt nonsense but the genuinely wealthy elite that Trump has always failed to be accepted by will just find all this hilarious.He tried to game a system that was already rigged in his favour.
Imagine getting to deliver the "But, just for the record, you weren't president in 2021" line. How do you live the rest of your life after that? Knowing that you've already had your perfect moment and nothing can come close.
The "yes I committed fraud but it was IN THE OTHER DIRECTION, psyche!" defence is pretty good too
Wandering around youtube I found this chap doing analysis. I'm slightly suspicious of him due to his sharp suits 🙂 but it seems to be good anaysis by and large so long as you have your pinch of salt with you
https://www.youtube.com/@briantylercohen
this vid discusses the tax implications from around halfway
Trump currently appears well-placed to defeat Joe Biden in next year's US presidential election.
The latest opinion poll suggests that Trump is leading Biden in critical swing states.
BIden needs to stand down and they need to find a decent candidate. Its one of the things I find weird in politics that parties choose as leader poor candidates. Hilary Clinton was a poor candidate, Biden is, Corbyn was, Sunak, Truss, both are.
Surely the Democrats can find a better candidate? there must be able folk with good appeal in the party?
But the problem is that persuading successful (to have got there in the first place) incumbent politicians to step aside ain't that simple as all your examples demonstrate really.
BIden needs to stand down and they need to find a decent candidate. Its one of the things I find weird in politics that parties choose as leader poor candidates. Hilary Clinton was a poor candidate, Biden is, Corbyn was, Sunak, Truss, both are.
Surely the Democrats can find a better candidate? there must be able folk with good appeal in the party?
This topic came up in the News Agents podcast yesterday. Interestingly, once you do some data digging whilst Kamala Harris is not that popular with democratic voters generally, the poles suggest she is popular enough to win the safe democrat states still but crucially is more popular than Biden in the swing states and would currently beat Trump in the presidential race.
Just another nail in the coffin as our western world view withers on the vine, with the rise of the indo pacific states and china we are heading into a new era
this made me laugh
"
The book also contains a priceless anecdote about an exchange between then president Trump and the former German chancellor Angela Merkel. Following the engagement, he bragged to a Republican congressman, who promptly shared the story with Karl, that Merkel had gone out of her way to compliment Trump over the large crowds he attracted at his rallies.
“She said she could never get crowds like that,” Trump is reported to have gloated. “In fact, she told me that there was only one other political leader who ever got crowds as big as mine.”
Karl notes drily that the congressman was left wondering whether Trump had any idea of the individual to whom Merkel was alluding. “Which would be more unsettling: that he didn’t or that he did?” the author writes."
That made me shudder.
I'm not if sure Hitler drew crowds in, or enforced them, maybe a bit of both. Either way, it's not a good boast for an ex-president of the USA currenlty facing multiple fraud charges amongst other things.
I'm faily confident Merkel thought of Trump much the same as any half intelligent person would...'what a total knober'.
I don't actually think any European leaders ever gave him any credit..it was just a case of lip service for diplomacy.
Anyone got any takes on yesterday's results?
Anyone got any takes on yesterday’s results?
Swing voters are key to winning elections. Policies that your base demands but that alienate swing voters will lose elections.
Swing voters are key to winning elections. Policies that your base demands but that alienate swing voters will lose elections.
Let's hope so...(applies both sides of the Atlantic)
I know how wrong it is, I know she is ugly inside. I know I should be ashamed. But I can't help it, I find Ivanka quite hot.
On a less disgusting note, I would seriously put money down on Trump being president in 12 months time.
ugly outside as well. Looks like a barbie doll. No facial expressions bar a sneer. she looks like she would melt if you put a flame to her.
I was surprised how old she is now. Her face seems frozen in time.
I know how wrong it is, I know she is ugly inside. I know I should be ashamed. But I can’t help it, I find Ivanka quite hot.
Youre allegedly not alone, heres what Donald himself had to say...
“Aides said he talked about Ivanka Trump’s breasts, her backside, and what it might be like to have sex with her, remarks that prompted Kelly to remind the president that Ivanka was his daughter,” writes Miles Taylor, a former chief of staff at the Department of Homeland Security
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/trumps-lewd-talk-about-daughter-ivanka-in-front-of-white-house-staff-recalled-in-new-book/
^^ Yuck, Trumps one odd character on so many levels.
I was surprised how old she is now. Her face seems frozen…
FTFY
Not entirely sure why some are demanding that Biden be removed, seeing that the American economy and jobs have improved significantly under his watch, despite everything that the lying tangerine turd keeps claiming.
I hope tantrum toddler has all of his statement properties confiscated, including his golf course in Scotland, and ends up in solitary confinement for most of the rest of his life.
