There is clearly a defective gene in the trumps which affects their memories.
Yes, I know they are all 100% defective but the memory problem must merit lobotomies all round.
count - because of the polling that shows he is ot popular, too old an there is no enthusiasm for him and that Trump would win an election now
Surely the Democrats can find a better candidate? there must be able folk with good appeal in the party?
There are people out there by all accounts, problem is that many of them would be strong candidates in 2028 rather than now. Anyone know what’s happened to Beto O’Rourke who was being talked up four years ago?
You have to hand it to the court sketch artist 
Well, that’s my Christmas presents sorted 😳I'm actually surprised that any hotel kept the Trump branding this long.
https://twitter.com/Meidas_LaurenA/status/1723186813660193123
If only there was some truth in that; I very much doubt there is.
I’ve just found an update from Snopes, who’ve done a fact-check, and they’ve listed it as satire. Bugger, I was so hoping it would be true. *sigh* 😕
Its unlikely to be foreclosed on but he could lose control of it if the NY case goes badly. It is not a residence officially but a members club and cannot be and he only has the ability to live there as an employee of Trump corporation or what ever its called.
Its all very complex but newsweek ( and I do not know how reliable that entity is) is saying he could lose control
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-mar-lago-fraud-trial-testimony-1842357
It is not a residence officially but a members club and cannot be and he only has the ability to live there as an employee of Trump corporation or what ever its called.
I can't see any official, anywhere in Florida, trying to evict him though. Unfortunately 😕
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Is he really that stupid?
https://twitter.com/Meidas_LaurenA/status/1729986584026771750
Honest question - is that legal?
Damn it! Opened again hoping he was dead.
Honest question – is that legal?
The judge as appointed an auditor to run Trump's businesses while they decide how much to fine him, and decide whether they are going to take away his business licences, Trump is supposed to tell the auditor what he's doing all the time. So, no it's not legal for Trump to do that.
Honest question – is that legal?
Depends on 'quietly' means without fanfare, ore means 'secretly'. And also depends on whether 'caught' in this context means the auditor happened across the transaction through investigation or was notified and reported as part of their duties. If you are the owner of a company you can move funds to your personal account as a wage, - pay yourself for the work you do for the company, as a 'dividend' - your share of the profits before tax, or as a 'directors loan' - ie the company loans you money and you have to pay it back. Directors Loans can go in either direction as directors might sometimes loan their company money to assist it also. All those things are fine so long as they are documented, and the company can actually afford to do them. So you can't take out dividends greater than the pre-tax profits that leave the company unable to pay its tax bill for instance. Theres also the question as to who other than Trump owns the company - he can only take out dividends relating to his share of the profits also if you pay out dividends to one shareholder you have pay out the proportional profits to all the others at the same time.
There's a court appointed auditor whom they have tell if they move more than $5M from anywhere to anywhere else, so there's that.
Gag order in NY fraud case re-instated.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/11/30/politics/new-york-appeals-court-reinstates-gag-order-against-donald-trump-in-civil-fraud-trial/index.html
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Trump caught moving $50 million from the Trump Org into his own account.
Mary Trump has noticed a damning detail in Ivanka’s testimony!
To summarize CZ article above: Ivanka testified the Mandarin Mussolini borrowed money from his kids to inflate his wealth when applying for loans
I've no idea whether that's legal
I'm no expert on NY property development financing but I think it's borderline illegal.
Difficult to see the judge not giving that some weight when he decides how big a hammer to use.
I suspect it's a small enough detail not to carry much weight against the other stuff? Considering that the case has also heard examples of just plain making it up.
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To summarize CZ article above: Ivanka testified the Mandarin Mussolini borrowed money from his kids to inflate his wealth when applying for loansI’ve no idea whether that’s legal
I bet if you were a small business owner over there and you pulled that crap you'd likely be in a fair bit of trouble.
Just like here though, I'm no longer naive enough to think we all live under the same laws, irrelevant of who we are.
I think it's more an issue for the kids than Trump. It's already been established that there has been fraud. What the court case is establishing is who in the company was complicit and how they should be sanctioned. The young trumps have all been claiming they are innocent of any wrong doing as all they did was sign stuff and trust that the accountants were doing the right and honest thing. What Ivanka (who isn't a defendant in the case, she's only a witness) is saying is that those kids actively participated - moving money around in order to create an illusion of the company's financial position. So more than simply mis-stating a financial position (saying you think a property is worth X, or in their case signing something you sat you haven't read that says a property is worth X, or the company is worth Y) but actively creating a misleading evidence. The accountants wouldn't have had the access to Trumnp family personal bank accounts to take money and let it rest in the Trump Orgs account.
Judge rejects trump attempt to throw out election subversion case.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/01/politics/trump-presidential-immunity-election-subversion-case-chutkan/index.html
It's becoming enjoyably monotonous to see legal manoeuvres by trump lawyers being continually rejected.
This, along with the others, will undoubtedly progress up through the US judicial hierarchy until trump is either out of options or wins at the supreme court.
It's all weird, still getting my head around the fact that Trump is getting stronger in terms of potentially being president again, whilst the court case is ongoing.
It's even weirder that the democrats have got themselves in such a bad position, you have Biden running again, and Kamala as back up, i think we're in for a very weird 12 months!
given how mad us politics has been, im expecting a Trump/Musk administration
given how mad us politics has been, im expecting a Trump/Musk administration
We are spared that since Musk isnt eligible(have to be natural born citizen).
Supreme Court will rule that Obama set a precedent…
I thought it was only the president that had to be us born
still getting my head around the fact that Trump is getting stronger in terms of potentially being president again,
Spite is one of the biggest motivating factors in life
The polarisation in US politics is such that what drives Trumps 'support' isnt so much his favourability amongst republicans as the upset his election would cause democrats
Supreme Court will rule that Obama set a precedent…
A precedent for what?
the president being born outside the US- remember the conspiracy theory?
(checks notes) wasn't he born in Hawaii, A US state, that makes him a US citizen, no?
Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii. He graduated from Columbia University in 1983 with a B.A. in political science and later worked as a community organizer in Chicago. In 1988, Obama enrolled in Harvard Law School, where he was the first black president of the Harvard Law Review. He became a civil rights attorney and an academic, teaching constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1992 to 2004.
