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Trump says he would campaign more...

what is he campaigning for? Aren’t there rules about when you can/can’t campaign for election? Shouldn’t he make a little time for his current job, you know, the one he campaigned to do last time?


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 8:06 am
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Even that depends on people willingness to give up what they have gained from President Trump’s policy.

Yeah coz that wall he built is amazing, trumpcare is fabulous & his tax cuts for millionaires have really helped the poorest !

It's only been a year and a half, Meuller has taken down his lawyer (claiming trump told him to break campaign finance law), his campaign manager (dodging tax on money from Russian agents)

,5 members of his campaign team now guilty Trump IS the swamp & he brought it to Washington with him.

his son & son-in-law will be next.

Republicans already know they will lose Congress, now starting to worry about the senate, which is why trump is desperately flying around & holding rallies

The potential for impeachment is now increased

Trump can also now be called as a witness by Stormy Daniels lawyer in her claim he broke their non-disclosure deal 😂


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 8:37 am
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His core voters are dumb **** who would believe the world was flat if trump declared it so, unless the democrats can muster up a decent candidate I fear he’ll get re-elected.

He lost the popular vote, his electoral collage win was by a margin of less than a million (in some states the number who voted independent) it was also a low turnout for Democrats in that election. So he can't afford to lose a single vote to be reelected  A 1% swing in places would have lost it for him. In recent elections in there has been a 7-10% swing to Democrats.

One of the major groups who are having trouble sticking with him is white educated women who were happy voting republican but.not.for him.

As.for campaigns this is about making money nothing more.


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 8:41 am
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his son & son-in-law will be next.

I'm puzzled why Jared Kushner hasn't had some sort of arrest already really. He lied on his disclosure form and "forgot" 100 foreign contacts he'd had which is apparently a felony. Maybe they're waiting for his father in law to leave the white house first.

One thing about Trump being arrested/accepting a plea to resign rather than face jail/go to jail/whatever is that the world ends up with Pence as president. Not sure that's much better, if at all.


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 8:56 am
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Let’s not get ahead of ourselves, Trump isn’t going anywhere soon. When he does go expect quite a backlash from his base support.

I am expecting some some kind of shooting of news teams at an event.

How the The he’ll have we arrived at this point.  Just desperate.


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 9:06 am
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Agreed. While this is an uplifting moment, Trump has sowed so much anger at the fictitious 'deep state' and the federal government in general among his base in a bid to save his own skin, that we can expect domestic terrorism of the type we saw in Oklahoma City if he finally gets turfed out or resigns.


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 9:09 am
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For the tide at the moment

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2018-midterm-election-forecast/house/

Before Nov 6th more trials, more findings and probably more revelations.


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 9:17 am
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One thing about Trump being arrested/accepting a plea to resign rather than face jail/go to jail/whatever is that the world ends up with Pence as president. Not sure that’s much better, if at all.

What would the mechanism be if electoral fraud / foreign interference are the reason trump gets the boot? The circumstances and actions that elected trump also elected Pence. Do we have to pretend that Trumps running mate had no idea what was happening?

He’s very quiet in all this 🙂


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 9:20 am
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Mechanism is either lose the election or nomination in 2020, after that it's impeachment in which case you start doing deals as to who steps in. Resignation is the wild card.


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 9:23 am
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Agnew resigned as part of a plea to avoid jail. It's entirely possible that Trump would do the same as the charges aren't that he helped rig the election.

Now, if the Mueller enquiry has evidence of collusion involving the campaign at a high level then I would imagine all bets are off and the supreme court would have some sort of say in whether there had to be an interim government. Impeachment may be hard given it requires a 2/3rds majority in the senate which needs a big win for the democrats in November or a lot of Republicans to decide they want to stand against their party leadership.


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 9:55 am
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or a lot of Republicans to decide they want to stand against their party leadership.

Or the leadership to choose to ditch trum as a can't win/hindrance to them


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 9:59 am
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<span class="skimlinks-unlinked">As.for</span> campaigns this is about making money nothing more

Yep the democrats are out-fundraising the reps by a big margin at the moment & it's got a lot of republican candidates worried that it's suddenly become so hard to raise cash.

IF the Dems win Congress then they can start proceedings to look at impeachment, should Meuller have the goods, if manafort & Cohen offer more juice on Trump to reduce their sentences (mannaforts crimes so serious his only hope is a pardon really- but that opens trump even more to obstruction charges) then trump's in trouble as even the reps will have to start thinking about impeaching trump


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 10:04 am
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The swamp is finally being drained!


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 10:04 am
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mannaforts crimes so serious his only hope is a pardon really

If only he knew someone who could do that for him....


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 10:28 am
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It sounds like a cunning cunning trap to let Trump pardon him


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 10:31 am
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Part of me hopes that this whole affair just builds and builds and builds, to the point that its turns into a (wolf of wall st reference) 'Grenada' for Mueller et al, and it makes history as the biggest slam dunk ever, and is used as an example in text books for centuries as a 'whatever you do, don't do this, this is the worst thing you can do' type example.

My only worry is the damage that will be done in the build up.


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 10:35 am
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One thing about Trump being arrested/accepting a plea to resign rather than face jail/go to jail/whatever is that the world ends up with Pence as president. Not sure that’s much better, if at all.

Especially when you consider that the man who 'contributed barely anything to Trump's campaign', one P. Manafort, was instrumental in getting Pence chosen as running mate by Trump.

Perhaps for tactical reasons to get the God bothering vote out, perhaps because he's a vacant, gullible, pliable fool who won't get in the way of swamp-filling activities should he become POTUS.

https://www.newsweek.com/mike-pence-was-handpicked-paul-manafort-696412


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 11:04 am
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Apparently impeachment is only a convention, a president can be indicted.


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 11:06 am
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Apparently impeachment is only a convention, a president can be indicted.

DOJ has issues with inditing a sitting president, it's not been done before but it will probably end up in the Supreme court if the Houses don't want rid of him forst


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 11:17 am
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But Cohen's personal lawyer said his client was ready to "tell everything about Donald Trump that he knows".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45270339

I'm sure even Muller doesn't want to know "everything"


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 2:28 pm
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Cohen apparently has already spoken to Meuller re collusion

Also new allegations about Manafort taking money from Russians already indicted by Meuller


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 2:28 pm
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Cohen has now said he wouldn’t accept a pardon from the “criminal” Trump. How long until he cops a plea bargain and leaves the US presidency? I don’t imagine he is dumb enough to ride this into a jail cell.


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 4:02 pm
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I don’t imagine he is dumb enough to ride this into a jail cell.

Not on purpose, anyway.


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 4:08 pm
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Has someone hacked his account? Thats a reasonably well constructed sentence without and FAILING capitals. SAD!


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 4:24 pm
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Surely someone has a still from a Stormy Daniels movie to add to this meme? 🙂


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 4:28 pm
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seth abramson predicted this 6 months ago, now hes even more certain

https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1032167136788140037


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 4:31 pm
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Wonder if hes going for the shortest time served by a president who didn't die on the job? brightest star burns for the shortest time etc


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 4:43 pm
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how long before we get the "of course I conluded" tweet with the ex aequo et bono defence 🙂


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 4:55 pm
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Agreed. While this is an uplifting moment, Trump has sowed so much anger at the fictitious ‘deep state’ and the federal government in general among his base in a bid to save his own skin, that we can expect domestic terrorism of the type we saw in Oklahoma City if he finally gets turfed out or resigns.

And again the very people that fear terrorism the most will be the ones doing it, where's my Alanis album...

how long before we get the “of course I colluded” tweet

Didn't he already post that one?


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 5:09 pm
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Didn’t he already post that one?

Think so, he definitely said it wasn't illegal. Which is good enough for me


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 5:20 pm
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Question is can Mannafort hold out until after the midterms when, assuming Meuller has wrapped up, Trump can pardon him safely?

If Cohen or others have given Meuller the goods on the trump tower Russian meetings, will Don jr & kushner be indicated soon too ?

Cohen also implicated others in trump organisation that handle his property dealings, there's some very shady stuff there for Trump, including in Russia.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2018/08/22/trump-company-approved-payments-cohen-relying-sham-invoices-prosecutors-say/cnDygjXJquzH0G6xl6T9mJ/amp.html

It all hangs on the midterms, before impeachment could start


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 5:32 pm
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Has he got the Plans drawn up for that wall yet ?

😜🔥🔥🔥🔥


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 5:47 pm
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its all ok, he have pleaded guilty to things which is not illegal, and Obama broke the law.


 
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DOJ has issues with inditing a sitting president, it’s not been done before but it will probably end up in the Supreme court

Well considering trump jump appointed a new supreme court judge that believes a sitting president can do no wrong and should never be indited doesn’t look like it will happen...


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 5:53 pm
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There are two ways out of this, either Trump voluntarily cooperates and ultimately resigns, or the GOP throw him under a bus. Even if the mid terms go as expected, The Senate has ultimate day over impeachment proceedings.

There is also growing concern that the mid-term elections will be subject to foreign interference.


 
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or the GOP throw him under a bus

The GOP and most the American business community have proven to be nothing but a bunch of snivelling toads, I don't expect that to change. The few who tried to act with honour have been forced out.


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 6:10 pm
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The GOP and most the American business community have proven to be nothing but a bunch of snivelling toads, I don’t expect that to change.

I would expect their sense of self preservation to kick in soon enough if he heads south (I don't mean getting more racist by that) they are having issues with candidates either trying not to be too trumpy or being very trumpy.

It will be telling who gets in. That is what will shape what comes next, if trump gets toxic to being on the gravy train.


 
Posted : 22/08/2018 6:17 pm
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Cohen wants a deal so bad!

https://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1032394657538420736


 
Posted : 23/08/2018 1:10 am
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Of course he was aware.

trump is clearly not one for ethics or rules. Not once if he was offered any dirt/leverage/advantage would he ever have said no, and most importantly he is too stupid to have distanced himself appropriately


 
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DOJ has issues with inditing a sitting president

This is is the critical piece for me.

the POTUS is an almost pope/deity like position for the Americans. The sanctity of that role is huge to them. As far as I know, and I’m more than happy to be corrected, but no POTUS has been forcibly removed from power. Nixon is the only one to ever resign.

americans pretty much can’t deal with the POTUS being fallible. Remove one, and the whole integrity of that position is dented forever. Americans know that.

they have to try and convince him behind the scenes to step down. However I don’t think his ego will allow him to do that.


 
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The next few weeks and months are certainly going to be interesting!

As we've said before, somebody like Trump, in his line of business, MUST have so many skeletons in his closet.  Whats protected him in the past was that there was no motivation to go after him - particularly given his litigious nature.  In becoming such a contentious president he's motivated armies of people to dig around in his past and uncover all the shady shit he's been up to over the years.

I think that realistically they are looking at tying him up until 2020 so he can't do too much harm - it will be interesting to see at what point the GOP cuts him loose.

I'm guessing that whenever he leaves the presidency the floodgates of civil suits and criminal charges are going to open.

Interesting to see the different approaches of Cohen and Manafort.  Manafort is standing by his man, and obviously banking on a presidential pardon (although I suspect he will simply be re-arrested for something else).  Cohen has obviously seen the writing on the wall and completely switched teams...... maybe an indication of recent progress in the investigation.


 
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americans pretty much can’t deal with the POTUS being fallible. Remove one, and the whole integrity of that position is dented forever. Americans know that.

Fail to remove over one and lose the political system as they know it.


 
Posted : 23/08/2018 1:54 am
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I predict no change. He’s successfully painted the FBI,CIA, DOJ and about every other government organisation as biased and corrupt. And his voter base believes him.


 
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