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As he trots out the lines like a little trump to justify murder. Its all a bit sad really


 
Posted : 14/05/2018 8:08 pm
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justify murder.

“Resistance and jihad for the liberation of Palestine will remain a legitimate right, a duty and an honour for all the sons and daughters of our people and our Ummah.”

”Resisting the occupation with all means and methods is a legitimate right guaranteed by divine laws and by international norms and laws. At the heart of these lies armed resistance, which is regarded as the strategic choice for protecting the principles and the rights of the Palestinian people.”


 
Posted : 14/05/2018 8:13 pm
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So it's allowed to shoot people because they come from a country?


 
Posted : 14/05/2018 8:14 pm
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So it’s allowed to shoot people because they come from a country?

Palestine isn’t a country

it would have been, if they hadn’t rejected the two state solution proposed by the United Nations,, repeatedly, and turned to violence instead.


 
Posted : 14/05/2018 8:15 pm
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So it's OK to shoot 50 people dead?


 
Posted : 14/05/2018 8:21 pm
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So it’s OK to shoot 50 people dead?

Depends what they were doing


 
Posted : 14/05/2018 8:22 pm
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Depends what they were doing

Very much so. Like when people are reportedly chasing a car into a group of protestors.


 
Posted : 14/05/2018 8:25 pm
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Or a rough translation what their religion/skin colour/place of birth was.


 
Posted : 14/05/2018 8:28 pm
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Funny, didn’t appear to be many Israelis out on the streets calling Trump a Nazi today, did there Darcy? I mean, you would have though that if anyone didn’t like Nazi’s...


 
Posted : 14/05/2018 8:29 pm
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I mean, you would have though that if anyone didn’t like Nazi’s…

If a horse was that lame... They are out celebrating wrapping him around thrir little finger. Bet he read all those empty files about Iran... But seriously do you even try these days?


 
Posted : 14/05/2018 8:33 pm
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They are out celebrating wrapping him around thrir little finger.

just another pawn in the international Jewish conspiracy...


 
Posted : 14/05/2018 8:37 pm
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Oh wow... Do you have these on a word doc?


 
Posted : 14/05/2018 8:39 pm
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I mean, you would have though that if anyone didn’t like Nazi’s…

Yes, of course labbie.


 
Posted : 14/05/2018 8:44 pm
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Yeah shooting a guy in a wheelchair who had a slingshot seems justifiable.


 
Posted : 14/05/2018 8:44 pm
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The orange **** told us that Jared Kushner was going to bring peace to the Middle East

He was there a whole afternoon & 50 people were killed & 2000 wounded

(Obviously in a completely proprtionate response to transgressions on their completely legally seized land.)

The nobel peace prize committee must be getting ready with their certificate


 
Posted : 14/05/2018 9:32 pm
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Yep the forwarded thinking diplomat is not in the white house


 
Posted : 14/05/2018 11:55 pm
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So it’s OK to shoot 50 people dead?

Depends what they were doing

Well, they weren’t shooting unarmed people, some may have been chucking stones and using slingshots, and of course, using live fire and snipers is always a reasonable and proportional response, is it not?

And that, Ninny, is what’s known as a rhetorical question, by the way.


 
Posted : 15/05/2018 12:07 am
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Palestine isn’t a country

I know - compared to the artificially-created nation Israel that has a full 60 years in the history books, the state of Palestine that was mentioned a thousand years before the birth of Christ should really stop whining about it, shouldn't it.


 
Posted : 15/05/2018 1:27 am
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This guy was definitely a threat- armed to the teeth and just about to vault the fence so you can definitely see why he was targeted and shot dead by a sniper

And this guy could have gassed a member of the IDF by knocking one of their own tear gas cans right down the mid court, that's totally unacceptable


 
Posted : 15/05/2018 2:03 am
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Proving it's not that complicated

Rabbi Latz ‏ @RavMABAY

I am a rabbi. I love Israel. I condemn without reservation the bloodshed in Gaza. Not so hard. You can challenge the Israeli government’s policies without being anti-Semitic.


 
Posted : 15/05/2018 1:43 pm
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And equally; I'm no lover of the Israeli government but when Hamas was posting this message of peace it's not easy to call them blameless for the escalation either.....

Still, difficult to see the opening of an Embassy in Jerusalem on a day that the occupied territories consider to be somewhat disputed as a calculated peace move.

No solutions, just despair at the human condition.


 
Posted : 15/05/2018 3:25 pm
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Just come across this piece on the GOP, Nixon, and his collusion with South Vietnam.

https://theintercept.com/2017/12/20/republican-attacks-on-robert-mueller-are-absurd-but-the-gop-has-been-lawless-for-decades/

But one thing’s for sure: If Trump does take some kind of outrageous action against Mueller, the Republican Party will mumble, look down at its shoes, and then do nothing whatsoever. Earlier this year there was momentum among a small number of GOP lawmakers to join with Democrats to pass legislation protecting Mueller, but that’s quietly petered out. There may be some opposition from some Republicans, but the odds of it being enough to stop Trump are quite low.

If this occurs it should come as no surprise to anyone. It’s simply the logical endpoint of decades of effort by the Republican Party and its media penumbra to shield the GOP from the rule of law or any small-D democratic norms. Today’s GOP sees any and all rules just as billionaire New York real estate developer Leona Helmsley saw taxes – they’re only for “the little people.”

There’s always been a significant faction of the U.S. right, rooted mostly in large corporations, that’s similar to the right in Latin America, in that it genuinely sees democracy as illegitimate. The success of Franklin D. Roosevelt during the 1930s was a gigantic shock to their system, and there were two small scale efforts by Wall Street and big business to overthrow Roosevelt via military coup. Meanwhile, John Foster Dulles, a powerful corporate lawyer who later became secretary of state during the Eisenhower administration, told his clients facing new government restrictions: “Do not comply. Resist the law with all your might, and soon everything will be all right.”


 
Posted : 15/05/2018 7:19 pm
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/15/world/asia/north-korea-postpones-talks.html

And next up Kim starts to mess them all around... How does it look if he gets stood up?


 
Posted : 15/05/2018 10:16 pm
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Well the NK-US summit was either never going to actually happen or not amount to anything, all NK wants out of it is a bit of international sympathy and maybe a relaxing of sanctions. Kim isn't stupid enough to think he'd still have the same power in a united Korea (at best he'd hope for immunity). I doubt even SK wants a united Korea except in principal - OK East and West Germany managed to merge fairly successfully but NK & SK is a whole different ball game.


 
Posted : 16/05/2018 9:14 am
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Yep unification would be messy, problem state side is the US thought it had all the cards here, if you say it was your skill that got you there then being stood up looks really bad. Kim is running the show in this


 
Posted : 16/05/2018 9:19 am
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Just come across this piece on the GOP, Nixon, and his collusion with South Vietnam

The recent Ken Burns documentary on the Vietnam war is well worth a watch if you haven't seen it, it's a bit of an eye opener on US foreign policy and what a mess they made of it.


 
Posted : 16/05/2018 9:22 am
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Is that the PBS one narrated by Peter Coyote?

Was Amazing, especially when you see the same mistakes being tepearep today.

Heads up the American version is showing on PBS Freeview channel in UK & each episode is much longer than one the BBC showed


 
Posted : 16/05/2018 9:36 am
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As for N Korea

Little Rocket Man has Trump dancing to his tune*, he's figured out how to play to trump's ego better than Bojo

* Awaits limp attempt to portray comment as being anit-korean or some such ninsense


 
Posted : 16/05/2018 10:07 am
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”Resisting the occupation with all means and methods is a legitimate right guaranteed by divine laws..."

"This land was promised to the Jewish people by god. .."

Aye. There's the rub.


 
Posted : 16/05/2018 10:43 am
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Little Rocket Man has Trump dancing to his tune*, he’s figured out how to play to trump’s ego better than Bojo

But, but...Trump needs his Nobel Peace Prize. Sorting out the the Palestinian/Iran problem so capably might not be enough by itself.


 
Posted : 16/05/2018 11:12 am
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I see our weakness as Brexit approaches is seen as a golden opportunity for Trump

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/15/trump-threatens-use-us-trade-talks-force-nhs-pay-drugs/


 
Posted : 16/05/2018 11:16 am
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/16/us/politics/trump-financial-disclosure.html

I think it's important he keeps making money, if he keeps paying the people he hasn't slept with it's going to get expensive


 
Posted : 16/05/2018 8:33 pm
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I see our weakness as Brexit approaches is seen as a golden opportunity for Trump

FFS 🤬 The Donald wants the NHS to build a wall now, as well. Eejit.


 
Posted : 16/05/2018 9:05 pm
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I have to salute this blokes persistence in keeping his Trump troll going for two years;

http://www.wired.co.uk/article/donald-trump-dan-rebellato-twitter-troll


 
Posted : 16/05/2018 10:44 pm
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It appears that Steve Bannon and Cambridge Analytica were engaged in a process of attempting to suppress African-Americans from voting:

https://techcrunch.com/2018/05/16/bannon-and-cambridge-analytica-planned-suppression-of-black-voters-whistleblower-tells-senate/


 
Posted : 17/05/2018 9:07 pm
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Hmm why wouldn't they it's a tried and tested republican trick there

Meanwhile the son in law, saviour of the middle east is certainly not taking donations - Looks like NYT links sit behind the pics now

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/17/nyregion/kushner-deal-qatar-666-5th.html


 
Posted : 17/05/2018 9:10 pm
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/15/trump-threatens-use-us-trade-talks-force-nhs-pay-drugs/

That really is the most perverse logic.  America's healthcare system is an absolute basket-case.  The reason that prices are so high is that they have a privatized model which practically guarantees that they are.  Blaming other countries who have their shit together (relatively), for their own failing system is preposterous.


 
Posted : 18/05/2018 1:11 am
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It is a tried and tested excuse to blame foreigners for the failures of rampant capitalism and a greed based system, and it keeps working.


 
Posted : 18/05/2018 7:48 am
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Yep, highlighting London knife crime is a way to defuse overseas criticism of gun control, this is to divert attention from his health failings, next up he contradicts his new National Security Adviser

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-44158566

I'm sure he has faith in him...


 
Posted : 18/05/2018 8:49 am
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Certainly offering Kim Jong-Un the opportunity to end up like Gaddafi was never going to end well. 🙂

Trump has no alternative but to slap John Bolton back down. That's the problem with hiring people based on their performances on Fox News.

Chaos as usual at the White House.


 
Posted : 18/05/2018 9:56 am
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So hypothetically...

If you ran a country like say Russia or China happy with whats gone on so far?

USA heading away from it's allies, a destabilised NATO, disunity on key issues like Iran. North Korea calling the shots down there, USA offering China trade concessions to influence NK, Russia getting mostly it's own way in Syria propping up Assad. Key US agencies undermanned or not being led properly, senior figures rolled out the door as fast as they came in with a fraction of the time needed to get up to speed on let along act on global issues.

Add in the UK damaging the EU and diverting most of it's attention onto those matters.

Sounds like something they would have bitten your hand off for back in 2015


 
Posted : 19/05/2018 2:36 pm
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On the other hand, Megan Brennan for president. Started out delivering mail and rose to the absolute top of the business, the president tells her in person to screw over amazon and she just goes "nah". Nails.


 
Posted : 19/05/2018 4:20 pm
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-44207986

Oh dear, prepare for a little more backtracking, it will happen soon, when he releases his tax returns etc.


 
Posted : 22/05/2018 11:46 pm
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What has the guy actually got done since getting in to the White House?

Business of government stuff, not just controversy?


 
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