It's not about winning,there are no winners. Trump just hurt the us economy for no benefit
You still haven’t explained how China can win a trade war with the US
Because
They
Don't
Have
Elections
It's just about who will blink first
“It’s not about winning,there are no winners. Trump just hurt the us economy for no benefit”
Its all about the mid-terms & getting re-elected. The Trump heartland will lap it up blissfully unaware that historically trade wars have led to economic downturn & job losses. “Trump digs coal” is empty soundbite that sounds good but means nothing..
in short - it’s all about Trump & has SFA to do with US jobs...
. The Trump heartland will lap it up blissfully unaware that historically trade wars have led to economic downturn & job losses.
They lost a 20pt lead in one of those districts at the time he announced tariffs. The replicans historically don't like tariffs and he needs them out in big numbers to get anything from the mid terms.
He wants to pick a fight anx distract from his massive personal problems.
6 months is also long enough to feel some of the pain from these, a climb down before November would really hurt him
Given that trade between the US and China is pretty lucrative, how do you think that the Chinese will react to the US starting what amounts to a trade war?
Do you think that they'll simply say "it's a fair cop, gov", roll over and accept it, or do you think that they will counter it, perhaps in ways that hadn't been considered?
How do you think that this will play out?
Trump is being foolish , as per usual. Tarrifs on steel harms the US more than China and it does not even play well with mainstream republicans
He does not need to shore up his core vote as those loons will stick with him no matter what the facts say but he cannot get a second term, nor stop the GOP getting mullered in the upcoming votes, simply with those core voters. he needs to reach out to moderate voters. This is something he can neither do nor can he do it successfully so we wil be eft with this sort of show action to his core voters as he craves adulation - even if it is from ever decreasing numbers
Its strange times when China are being more moderate, diplomatic and committed to free trade than a US president
Ex-Skadden Lawyer Is Sentenced to 30 Days in Russia Inquiry
First one to prison, still obviously nothing to see here.
Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom
Catchy name that sounds like types of Quarks 😉
Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom
Cuthbert, Dibble and Grub
Trump is managing to make China look like moderates. Some skill that from the master of the art of the deal. he has to learn that countries, unlike campaniles, have pride and wont just take shit just to make money. He would do anything for money and I suspect he almost never meets anyone who is not of a similar view. This cannot end well for anyone and the longer it heats up the harder it is for Trump "trade wars are easy to win"* to back down
My suspicion is he is ratcheting up a trade war to make shit loads on stocks when he backs down.
* he may well be stupid enough to believe this as are his core voters - then again they thought Mexico would pay for the wall so not the most rational of folks
Cunning to target Soybeans
he has to learn that countries, unlike campaniles, have pride and wont just take shit just to make money
Well, other than a tory UK, May and co seem quite happy to suckle on his moobs.
Vs his biggest election gains, I'd say China are trying regime change by tariff
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There's nothing like a trade war to expose some of the frailties of what you thought was a flourishing economy. Trump and his advisers have seen recent US growth (and stock market gains) and assumed they were in a position to dictate terms to economies like China.
But with large swathes of the country dependent on agricultural exports, it will be interesting to see how much resilience and capacity for outlasting China there is in rural, Trump-supporting America.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/981521901079146499
Spoken like the master businessman who managed to find a way to lose money running casinos.
Perhaps he thinks he can declare the country bankrupt and start over ?
Well Trumps seems to have thrown his lawyer under the bus, sorta mentioning he had no idea that hush money had been paid when he could have just kept his gob shut.
And caravans....he’s developed an interest in them.. We should club together and get him membership of the caravan club...he’d really fit in with the wifeswapping there 🙂
(on a serious note his caravan stuff is so very wrong.)
Caravan of love? Who'd have thought that the man who can't find lawyers says the wrong thing legally ..
I was reading the other night about how Bezos is personally organising these caravans. Isn't it odd how something suddenly goes from never being mentioned, to being mentioned once on Fox and Friends, to being a burning issue?
The Trump Fox feedback loops great.
youse lot still kidding on you know what yer talking about? 😆
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You still haven’t explained how China can win a trade war with the US
there is no winning... almost all of the components for some of our tools come from china in bulk. If the factory we have over then did not continuously screw up assembly they would not come at all...
extra cost may mean the us plant closes and moves to Malaysia or India just like our competitors have done...
The state sponsored industry in China will survive only the small us industries without a local market will suffer... small companies will fail and big conglomerates will take up the slack. These will treat workers like crap and pay less tax per dollar revenue...
#winning...
I read somewhere recently that China is running out of American imports to stick tariffs on now...
I don’t care about facts and figures, i just want this drivel of every airwave and channel until the next election comes along.
I’m not sure how to put this to you, but you don’t have to pay attention to any of this stuff if you don’t want to, you know? You don’t have to buy newspapers, I don’t, and haven’t for ages, same as the telly offers plenty of programming you can watch as an alternative to the news, and you can avoid news on the radio pretty easily. If you want to. Of course, then you wouldn’t have something to whine about on a bike forum, would you...
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Another fire at trump tower. Donny straight to twitter bragging that because it was ‘well built’ the fire was contained. Also thanked ‘the firemen (and women)’
Mentioned nothing of the person that died in the fire. Or why his well built building didn’t have sprinklers....
<p id="story-continues-4" class="story-body-text story-content" data-para-count="84" data-total-count="2404">Dennis Shields, a resident who said he lived on the 42nd floor, described the scene.</p>
<p class="story-body-text story-content" data-para-count="133" data-total-count="2537">“You could smell the smoke and you could hear things falling like through the vents,” he said. “It just smelled like sulfur.”</p>
<p class="story-body-text story-content" data-para-count="116" data-total-count="2653">He said there were no orders to evacuate but he received a text message from Mr. Trump’s lawyer, Michael D. Cohen.</p>
<p class="story-body-text story-content" data-para-count="231" data-total-count="2884">Mr. Shields, who said he grew up with Mr. Cohen, continued: “He said, ‘Are you in the building?’ I said, ‘Yes.’ He said, ‘You better get out ASAP.’ That’s how I knew to get out, otherwise I’d still be in there.”</p>
<p data-para-count="231" data-total-count="2884"> https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/07/nyregion/trump-tower-fire.html</p>
<p data-para-count="231" data-total-count="2884">I can see why he is struggling for legal advice these days...</p>
F.B.I. Raids Office of Trump’s Longtime Lawyer Michael Cohen https://nyti.ms/2HljKJB
Tick tock tick tock
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<p data-para-count=”231″ data-total-count=”2884″>I can see why he is struggling for legal advice these days…</p>
I'm guessing Donny would also brag about how wonderful this forum is if he could claim credit for it 😉
Looks like Donny has had his early morning appointment with the porcelain as usual.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/983662953894436864
So, on a day where all the US news outlets are focussing on the FBI raiding the presidents lawyers office, Fox decide to go a different route (I wish I was making this up)
Old news!
poor old donald, he was hoping fox would tell him how to act with respect to syria this morning but now he's got to worry about sex crazed pandas on the rampage.
Pandas are Chinese though, so you know... war.
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Trump's tweet yesterday is telling
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/983662868540346371?s=19
Translation : **** ! my lawyer has got serious dirt on me, I thought I was above the law
Lock Him Up!
Lock Him Up!
oops
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/apr/11/paul-ryan-reportedly-says-he-wont-seek-re-election
draining the swamp to replace it with
Republican candidate running, Paul Nehlen, is a vocal antisemite and white nationalist.
Ryan doesn't really want to own his mess, does he? The prospect of being minority leader and dealing with a Trump who has zero prospect of any wins can't be that appealing.
He must have thought there was a high chance of being unseated as well with the Democrats aiming more of their resources at him. Can't imagine Nehlen will sweep home, TBH. It will be the likes of Devin Nunes angling for the 'top' job.
Something that happens quite often is that criminals think attorney-client privilege is like the seal of the confessional and they can say and do anything and be protected. Then they're surprised when it turns out that actually it doesn't protect you if you're planning or conducting a crime with your attorney, and it doesn't apply to things that aren't related to crime at all.
Other limitations- it doesn't apply to conversations about non-legal matters, such as personal conversations, business matters etc. In other words it only applies when your attorney is being your attorney. And lastly, if you claim an exchange never happened, it's less likely to be protected- you can't invoke attorney-client privilege for a conversation you didn't have. So the "we never talked about it" thing specifically undermines the whole argument.
It doesn't come up that much because mostly the attorney will make sure they stay within the lines and will protect their client. But when you've got an arrogant rich dude who's spent his life getting away with it and thinks it's his right, and an attorney who's happy to cross the line over to fixer/accomplice, than that's when it gets interesting.
The latest tweet from trump reminds me of the fights we had in the playground....
"Get ready Russia, because they will be coming, nice and new and 'smart!'" Mr Trump said in his tweet.
I can imagine him running round the war room with his underpants pulled over his head as he shouts "I wanna push the button....I wanna push the button.....that's not fair i'm the president....I wanna push the button".
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/372943068267573249
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/374361164547100672
<sigh>
It takes an incredible amount of effort to plan a game this long, the set up in some of these tweets is just genius
The choice of words is just so random, who the hell goes with "nice" in that situation? Nice is a word that you use to describe, for example, a fairly good but not excellent pork chop
