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Like this doesn’t happen in  every department and industry in the whole world?

Perhaps. But you're the one who seems to think that alleged payoffs and threats from the 'Leader of the Free World'* aren't particularly newsworthy. Like many other people, I find potential criminal activity from a presidential candidate quite deserving of coverage. If that doesn't float your boat, then I believe the National Enquirer, run by Trump's pal, is unlikely to be running any of this kind of salacious tittle-tattle, despite paying six-figure sums to secure the rights.

The story is not that he put his bits into a porn star while a private citizen, although that may speak to his character. The story is that he may have financed her silence illegally during an election campaign, and even sent someone to threaten her to keep quiet about it. I'm not that interested in the adultery, that element of his character was readily apparent long before this.

It's the cover-up that gets you, not the initial event. I mean, what's so newsworthy about some two-bit burglary involving a bunch of Cubans at some Washington office block?

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Posted : 26/03/2018 11:58 am
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Also if the saucy revelations are too much just ignore them.


 
Posted : 26/03/2018 12:00 pm
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It's not ok , but what you gonna do. it's been going on since the beginning of time and will continue to. It didn't just start when Trump was elected. I'm sure if you scraped around you would find anything on every US congress person since the modern US was formed.My whole argument is that since he was elected in  it's been a plastering match in every media outlet. I don't care about facts and figures, i just want this drivel of every airwave and channel until the next election comes along.


 
Posted : 26/03/2018 12:04 pm
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 I don’t care about facts and figures

So you are a Trump voter then? 😉


 
Posted : 26/03/2018 12:08 pm
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<span class="skimlinks-unlinked">My</span> whole argument is that since he was elected in  it’s been a plastering match in every media outlet. I don’t care about facts and figures, i just want this drivel of every airwave and channel until the next election comes along.

Given his attacks on former presidents were continuous he is getting what he deserves, this is part of a much bigger story here, you seem to be missing that. The allegations are very serious and the consequences very high - the details are salacious but that isn't the point.

Care to add some facts and figures as to how much this is on every news channel?


 
Posted : 26/03/2018 12:09 pm
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Good luck with that then


 
Posted : 26/03/2018 12:10 pm
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The allegations are very serious and the consequences very high

and the proof remains very absent


 
Posted : 26/03/2018 12:22 pm
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more amusingly Trump cant find a lawyer to replace the one he just fired to defend him against the Meuller probe

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in-another-blow-to-trumps-efforts-to-combat-russia-probe-digenova-will-no-longer-join-legal-team/2018/03/25/8ac8c8d2-3038-11e8-94fa-32d48460b955_story.html?utm_term=.e3119781cfd0

I think we know where this is heading


 
Posted : 26/03/2018 12:23 pm
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and the proof remains very absent

Does it? We have a signed document between Miss Clifford and Trump's go to layer detailing confidentiality and a payment, she is prepared to go on the record on this - yeah she is willing to admit to sleeping with him, we have proof of the payments so either the lawyer paid from his own pocket because with no prompting he wanted to (bad news for him) or he did it under instruction from Trump (bad news for both) or it was meant to be paid back (bad news for all)

I'm happy for this to be investigated, if it turns out to be false then she should be held to account over that. Don't you think it's fair? Or should all allegations against a sitting president be ignored? (Putin/Silvio etc.)


 
Posted : 26/03/2018 12:27 pm
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the proof remains very absent

Michael Cohen (Trump's personal lawyer) admitted paying her off with $130,000

and he negotiated that settlement using a Trump organisation email account.

He claims that he did this on his own, with his own personal funds, without Trump's knowledge or consent, and was not reimbursed in any way.

Do you honestly believe that?


 
Posted : 26/03/2018 12:44 pm
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Is that what American lawyers understand by pro bono work Ninny ?


 
Posted : 26/03/2018 12:53 pm
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He claims that he did this on his own, with his own personal funds, without Trump’s knowledge or consent, and was not reimbursed in any way.

Now you put it like that I can't see how we all got the wrong impression of it all. We should all just ignore anything Trump does that isn't policy then, right all back to work.

Lets wait to see what lead he takes on gun laws or how his sexual harassment case progress


 
Posted : 26/03/2018 2:16 pm
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Is that what American lawyers understand by pro bono work

Pro boning work, I think.


 
Posted : 26/03/2018 4:03 pm
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Is that what American lawyers understand by pro bono work Ninny ?

Might explain why apparently he is having difficulty finding a new lawyer.


 
Posted : 26/03/2018 4:30 pm
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Lets wait to see what lead he takes on gun laws or how his sexual harassment case progress

Funny to see that you didn't suggest we wait to see what effect him being controlled by the Russians has on whether he does anything about Salisbury

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/26/politics/us-expel-russian-diplomats/index.html


 
Posted : 26/03/2018 4:46 pm
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Who said he was being controlled by the Russians?

The more recent evidence shows that the Russians were using influence to spread disruption in the US and EU via interference in the elections, do keep up.

Though if you have any comments on the implication of the pay off's I'm sure it would be insightful


 
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The more recent evidence shows that the Russians were using influence to spread disruption in the US and EU via interference in the elections, do keep up.

ah, reigning back from the 'collusion' accusations then eh?


 
Posted : 26/03/2018 5:17 pm
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https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/26/politics/us-expel-russian-diplomats/index.html/a >

Presumably the last man in the room with Trump is now John Bolton, who is considerably more hawkish than his predecessor.

I guess if Russia does have any kompromat on Trump we get to find out pretty soon. Unless Putin considers the chaos Trump brings to the table more valuable than Mike Pence's prayerful reflection.


 
Posted : 26/03/2018 5:19 pm
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ah, reigning back from the ‘collusion’ accusations then eh?

Nope, parties withing the Trump Campaign have had a significant amount of inappropriate contact with the Russian government and their agents.That needs fully investigating. But head off down your little rabbit hole again if you want.

So what do you reckon to the campaign finance part of the Stormy Daniels case? How about the lack of a legal team to speak with Muller or the implication of trying to invoke Executive Privilege? So many strands to this at the moment.


 
Posted : 26/03/2018 5:22 pm
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Has Trump sent his fun campaign team home or is there enough people left in the Russian embassy to help him with the second term?


 
Posted : 26/03/2018 5:28 pm
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Ninny,I missed the bit where we all said he was being controlled by the Russians,cite or shut up.


 
Posted : 26/03/2018 7:56 pm
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Oh,you  couldn't make it up could you? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43439731   Apparently he vehemently denies an affair,but is seeking damages for her breaching a non-disclosure agreement from 2016.What has she agreed to not disclose,if they haven't had an affair?


 
Posted : 27/03/2018 9:01 am
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I thought he was a great negotiator? That seems to have faded away along with his legal team.


 
Posted : 27/03/2018 9:19 am
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I'm sure I've read his lawyer saying "just because it isn't true, doesn't mean it's not harmful" effectively saying they bought silence, not to admit guilt. I can see this working, and believe it would be common practice. It appears that the NDA does exist, no one is denying it, the counter claim for $20m is due to breach<span style="font-size: 0.8rem;">. Why it exists is another matter, and how it was paid for and whether that constitutes campaign funds.</span>

I guess the counter claim is pretty normal as well, enough noise and there's no doubt, enough money will silence the Stormy Daniels claims. I wonder if enough damage has been done. I suspect not.


 
Posted : 27/03/2018 10:06 am
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I guess the counter claim is pretty normal as well, enough noise and there’s no doubt, enough money will silence the Stormy Daniels claims. I wonder if enough damage has been done. I suspect not.

Enough money needs to match the amount for telling it all too


 
Posted : 27/03/2018 10:19 am
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If he paid her $130,000 to say nothing about nothing,one has to wonder how many other payments have been made?


 
Posted : 27/03/2018 10:45 am
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Well there are the stories bought by the national enquirier and never published which also fall under that category, a very similar tactic to Harvey Weinstien


 
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Posted : 27/03/2018 3:38 pm
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Sharky and George, it's complicated. Who knew? I've known George a long time, he's a great guy and he's doing a beautiful job.


 
Posted : 27/03/2018 4:08 pm
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Papadopoulos flipped months ago, Meuller been sitting on this for a while, unless he's just learning from Greek media now?

https://www.buzzfeed.com/mitchprothero/how-a-putin-ally-met-key-trump-officials-and-worried


 
Posted : 27/03/2018 6:02 pm
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https://video.vice.com/en_us/video/monday-march-26-2018/5a908771f1cdb3416a515b11

Yeah, just a regular dad.... 😳😱


 
Posted : 27/03/2018 8:02 pm
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So another law suit on the go

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/28/politics/emoluments-lawsuit-trump-hotel/index.html

Meanwhile 5 law firms turned him down this week, ....


 
Posted : 28/03/2018 11:14 pm
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Oh, and don't forget possibly offering (via his former lawyer) presidential pardons all round, in case you were thinking of cooperating with Mueller...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-lawyer-allegedly-raised-possibility-of-pardons-for-manafort-flynn-last-summer/2018/03/28/3c5e570c-32ae-11e8-8abc-22a366b72f2d_story.html

Apart from being a slightly naive idea (even pardonees can be subpoena'd to testify, then indicted for any lies they tell), did they not think that this might be taken as interfering in a live FBI investigation?

PS Oh, and the hint, in an indictment of a London lawyer, that Mueller has been told Gates knowingly met a member of the Russian Intelligence Service in 2016. Raising the possibility that Mueller is gathering evidence that Trump's Campaign Chair and his aide had open channels with Russian Intelligence during the campaign.

That just about wraps up today's fun and games.


 
Posted : 28/03/2018 11:20 pm
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The more recent evidence shows that the Russians were using influence to spread disruption in the US and EU via interference in the elections, do keep up.

With the connivance of the NRA, and other Right-thinking American groups...

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/russian-campaign-to-infiltrate-nra-elect-trump-w518587


 
Posted : 02/04/2018 8:33 pm
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Nice to see such fine, upstanding folk supporting The Donald...

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/31/politics/nra-member-calls-parkland-survivors-liars/

I’m afraid there are no words I can post that won’t get me a stiff warning note.

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"These poor children, I'm afraid to say this and it hurts me to say this, but the evidence is irrefutable, they have no soul," he added.

Classy response from the ageing rockstar- that all kinds of batshit crazy


 
Posted : 02/04/2018 9:29 pm
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Classy response from the ageing rockstar- that all kinds of batshit crazy

That's about par for the course for Nugent: The guy is a grade A bell-end and has been spouting his right-wing bull-"""" for decades. I hope his bow and arrow backfires.


 
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It's the other foot now, first victim were all the US blue collar workers making things with steel  Now the pork industry, all to divert attention from muller, Daniels and the next smoking gun


 
Posted : 02/04/2018 9:46 pm
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Except he's shooting other people in the foot - he couldn't actually care less about those industries.


 
Posted : 02/04/2018 10:21 pm
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Eh? How is that shooting himself in the foot?

China can't ever ever win a tariff war with the US, because they have a $375 billion trading surplus.


 
Posted : 03/04/2018 12:21 am
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Eh? How is that shooting himself in the foot?

Step one, the us economy makes more dollars and employs more people using steel  than steel making.

Step two, the next level sanctions impact more of trumps so called base over anyone else.

Do you need pictures or a fox news cartoon?


 
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You still haven't explained how China can win a trade war with the US.


 
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