Who knows. The 14 options article posted on the previous page was interesting reading and outlined some of the possibilities. It seems they almost completely rule out some options, but we're still left with anything between him deciding to resign tomorrow morning when he realises the writing's on the wall and he can't be bothered fighting, or a long drawn out process of impeachment with him fighting every step of the way (and it seems unlikely such a process could even start yet, no matter how good evidence there is against him). Or he might just get lucky, succeed at something and be re-elected in 2020.
His history of pay out rather than go to court doesn't suggest he's a fan of long drawn out investigations. If it gets too hot my guess is he'll bow out and then blame everyone but himself, hopefully taking Pence down with him.
We've already seen that they're preparing for the long game with the whole Fake News and now Fake Investigations (Hilary and Uranium lead by Nunes)
It'll take either something coming out that even his (mental) base believe or the GOP deciding to save their own skin/party and impeach but the chances of that happening are slim as Pence, Ryan and McConnell are all implicated
And things just got even better..
[url= https://twitter.com/DearAuntCrabby/status/924659742945042433 ]Mexico hits back.[/url]
Sauce? Other than Twitter, I mean.
Mentioned in Reuters and various other publications, also looking at possible trade deals with China and others trump has annoyed.
All those links are from around April and say Mexico and Argentina are in talks. I haven't seen anything about something actually happening.
Cyclists! Even when you give them more than 1.5m passing space they're not happy
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/oct/29/hail-to-the-chief-cyclist-gives-trump-the-middle-finger?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
His bodyguards should have battered her then sent her to Guantanamo for such disrespect to the president.
And we are off. He has started on Twitter.
That cyclist deserves a medal.
This is only the beginning
Ultimately the Meuller stuff might not amount to much, but Trump throwing everything he can at the Hillary/Dems/ starting a war with n.Korea, whatever it takes to distract from this
A\ makes him look like he does have something to hide
B\ drags America down with him further
IF it all goes tits up for Trump, how long will it take? Will it be like the Berlin Wall coming down which seemed to happen overnight or will it drag on.
Depends on what dates David hasselhoff has free in his diary.
It really depends who turns on him and what they have. If they go after his kids he might take the hint, the prospect of Little Donny and is son in law up on charges may force him to think about it. Anyway can't wait to see what drops
I'm interested in what happens if they go after Bannon - I feel like he knows where the (proverbial and maybe even literal) bodies are buried.
He also seems like they guy that would sell-out quickest.
Obviously I'd love for them to go for Farage. Pleasepleasepleaseplease....
His bodyguards should have battered her then sent her to Guantanamo for such disrespect to the president.
Nah, they are probably thinking "Good on you lass. We have to put up with him all day."
Here we go, Manafort has been ordered to surrender to federal authorities
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/30/us/politics/paul-manafort-indicted.html
Hopefully
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FAKE NEWS
HILARY- LOCK HER UP
SAD
Gates has been seen around the WH as recently as June [url= https://www.thedailybeast.com/despite-russia-controversy-paul-manaforts-partner-is-still-lurking-around-the-white-house ]https://www.thedailybeast.com/despite-russia-controversy-paul-manaforts-partner-is-still-lurking-around-the-white-house[/url]
NYT profile [url= https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/16/us/politics/rick-gates-russia.html ]https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/16/us/politics/rick-gates-russia.html[/url]
Manaforts in big trouble even without Trump/Russia, will be interesting to see what hes charged with
meanwhile in the white house
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http://newsthump.com/2017/10/30/donald-trump-has-no-idea-paul-manafort-was-arrested-after-morning-spent-watching-fox-and-friends/
Paul J. Manafort, Jr., 68, of Alexandria, Va., and Richard W. Gates III, 45, of Richmond, Va., have been indicted by a federal grand jury on Oct. 27, 2017, in the District of Columbia. The indictment contains 12 counts: conspiracy against the United States, conspiracy to launder money, unregistered agent of a foreign principal, false and misleading FARA statements, false statements, and seven counts of failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts.
"Paul J. Manafort, Jr., 68, of Alexandria, Va., and Richard W. Gates III, 45, of Richmond, Va., have been indicted by a federal grand jury on Oct. 27, 2017, in the District of Columbia."The indictment contains 12 counts: conspiracy against the United States, conspiracy to launder money, unregistered agent of a foreign principal, false and misleading FARA statements, false statements, and seven counts of failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts."
full case here
https://www.justice.gov/file/1007271/download
Doesn't matter what you get them for sometimes
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Wonder what the plea bargains will look like
I suspect a thin skinned orange man child with teeny hands is equally interested
Nothing there to implicate trump which he will mention endlessly without addressing who he used as his campaign manager.
I assume manafort has gone from a great man to a bad man.Sad.
has tiny hands been near his phone yet?
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Baw and what's the other bit, oh yes Bag.
I'd imagine Trump's lawyers have taken away his phone and given him the emergency Alvin and the Chipmunks phone.
The day care workers are definitely in today
apparently Trump has accquired 400,000 new twitter foloowers in the last couple of days
its march of the distraction bots time!
I think the plea bargains might prove very interesting
president can pardon them though and claim - to hi sbretherne who seem deeply into fake news despite their outpouring- he did it to stop the democrats end the witch hunt or some such trumpian ruse*
* means lies so shit even a child is laughing at them
This is probably bigger news: George Papadopoulos, foreign policy advisor for Trump campaign, secretly pleaded guilty [url= https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4163402/Papadopoulos-Statement-Offense.pdf ]https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4163402/Papadopoulos-Statement-Offense.pdf[/url]
unsealed just now. It makes reference to a female Russian national who can only be the Lawyer Don Jr met with
what else did papadopolous give up about trump then?
kimbers - Member
what else did papadopolous give up about trump then?
The fact its a one and done charge, probably everything
Edit looks like he has
Pete Williams on MSNBC:
Papadopolous was arrested back on July 27, after returning to the country from London. He's cooperated with the authorities ever since.
Double edit further down the rabbit hole
Matthew Miller
@matthewamiller
The FBI interview where Papadopolous lied about his Russia contacts came on the same day, Jan. 27, Trump asked Comey for a loyalty pledge.
yep its looking like papadopolis may have sunk trump?
https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/924988111880417280
gets interesting from about 70/
72/ If Trump ordered the GOP platform change after Papadopoulos laid out the Kremlin's interest in him—and he did—collusion has been proven.
my predictions is that Trump will go down kicking and screaming
No shit Sherlock 😉
easiest prediction ever
So in summary Trump colluded with the Russians to gain votes and win the Presidency?
this meeting at trump tower 1 month after the guy 3rd from left met with putins niece & russian ambassador (and later said hed not)
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Thank you kimbers and mehr, I've spent a good hour reading through those tweets and that Papadopoulos statement.
The investigation has been quietly gathering evidence for some time now, it's beyond question that Trump knew about collusion with Russians and that the timing of this was prior to the hacking of Clinton's emails, so it would appear that a quid pro quo agreement was in place before this happened (during the campaign, Trump alluded none too discretely that perhaps Russian hackers might like to dig dirt on Clinton).
We already have a GOP at war with itself. Sooner or later, the rank and file will have to make a choice as to whether to back Trump, or disavow him (and by extension Pence and the remnants of the Tea Party movement). Bannon appears to have planned for Trump's fall from office, no sane person would've bet the farm on Trump lasting in office a full term (in a recent interview, Bannon himself gave Trump a 30% chance of making it to January 2021 as president). It's certain to get very, very ugly.
102/ I want to make a perhaps obvious point: were Trump not a narcissist, we might expect him to resign the presidency this week. He's done.
I said about 3-4 months ago in this thread Drumpf would be done in 6 months. I honestly would still be surprised if I am right.
This is probably new thread worthy but a follow up from Peter Jukes on the Farage story I posted before
[url= https://twitter.com/peterjukes/status/924563740778954752 ]https://twitter.com/peterjukes/status/924563740778954752[/url]
Scary shit, if true (which I suspect it is)
this meeting at trump tower 1 month after the guy 3rd from left met with putins niece & russian ambassador (and later said hed not)
Are you jivebunny?
Ban on transgender troops also blocked today as it ‘does not appear to be supported by any facts’
Are you jivebunny?
Once Trump is out of the picture we can focus on that whole Farage/Putin/Brexit thing !!!
my predictions is that Trump will go down kicking and screaming
Trump is going no where. He’ll be President to the end of his term and then decide whether to run again.
We will see what else the FBI raise but so far it seems the Republicans have done much the same as did the Democrats - try and dig dirt on the opposition.
