The Sweden terror attack error is really damning. He thought a NATO Ally that has been regularly probed by the Russian Navy and air force and is in a stratigicaly important region where Russia has built up forces,had been attacked by terrorists and it never crossed his mind to check out what had happened , to contact his allies and see if he could help , he just squirreled it away for a bit of crowd baiting at his Nuremberg Rally .
propaganda - pr?p???and?/
noun
1.
information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote a political cause
i think we can quite sensibly put down anything DT says into this category now don't you?
Let's see who is the first to guess the correct meaning
It's all about creating FUD.
It's not rocket science..
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So - think of a country where the ruling oligarchy have used their positions to amass enormous personal fortunes, where a free press has been ruthlessly suppressed and replaced by parrots squawking the party line, where political opponents are jailed on spurious charges. Looks like Trump's wet dream. No wonder he is in such awe of Putin.
Sweden has questions....
The Swedish embassy in Washington has asked the U.S. State Department for an explanation of a comment made by President Donald Trump that suggested there had been some sort of security incident in Sweden on Friday.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-sweden-idUSKBN15Y0QH
I reckon one of his advisors must just be having a laugh, let see what we can get him to say today! 😆
guessing I missed some kinda rammy in this thread yesterday? closed?
Are we back? I had assumed that the STW management had locked the forum for a period of time as a mark of respect for the victims of yesterday's terror incident in Sweden.
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Let's see who is the first to guess the correct meaning ...
Zombie maggots? You don't mentioned them as much these days. Are the meds better balanced?
he is not very rich?So it looks like you lot have a field day at the expense of an ordinary President Trump.
I want to use that description but I have to stop out of mercy for those who cannot handle it.convert - Member
Zombie maggots? You don't mentioned them as much these days. Are the meds better balanced?Let's see who is the first to guess the correct meaning ...
Anyway, that's not the answer.
Keep them guess coming. 
Junkyard - lazarus
So it looks like you lot have a field day at the expense of an ordinary President Trump.
he is not very rich?
Nope. Try again ... not the answer.
The Swedish embassy in Washington has asked the U.S. State Department for an explanation of a comment made by President Donald Trump
Well good luck with that. I doubt anyone has any idea what he's talking about. Least of all Donald himself.
Actually he reminds me of someone
How about no, we are not going to play the look at me game.
I guess with all these lies the stare visit looks more likely as he offends or alienates every one else.
chewkw - MemberNope. Try again ... not the answer.
I know you get a lot of stick on here Chewwy but there really is no denying that you have them eating out of your hand.
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Sweden have released the names of those responsible for the atrocious acts of terror.... Agnetha, Bjorn, Benny and Anni-Frid.
They better guess that answer right coz it's not a wind up ...ernie_lynch - Member
chewkw - Member
Nope. Try again ... not the answer.
I know you get a lot of stick on here Chewwy but there really is no denying that you have them eating out of your hand.
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Jamie - Member
Wrong answer.
Nil point.
Do you actually follow that illustration through ... think about it. 😛
still no news on the wall with Mexico ?
still nothing on creating US jobs ?
Travel ban update ? was it not due last week ?
It's only been 24 hours since the attrocity in Sweden, I think Trump need some space to prepare a proportionate response
#prayforsweden
#prayforbowlinggreen
cchris2lou - Member
still no news on the wall with Mexico ?still nothing on creating US jobs ?
Travel ban update ? was it not due last week ?
Patience ... what's the hurry?
Even a rocket needs refueling before it can blast off to the moon.
Do you actually follow that illustration through ... think about it.
Please in these tragic times we need some fun, what do you think it means.
Everyone else is there on the bit where Trump is a habitual liar, makes stuff up, refuses to back down on anything instead blaming anyone else around (if you hired the guy who can't provide you with accurate info then it is really your fault)
Then he goes after the accurate and responsible media for daring to not agree with his narrative while championing those that will print whatever he claims on the day.
It's really quite simple.
Patience ... what's the hurry?
Meanwhile there are so many "bad things" happening.
so many bad dudes are entering the US right n
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[quote=cchris2lou ]so many bad dudes are entering the US right n
this makes me sad. Not good
See his speech about the dreamliner being built in the states? Its not. Its assembled from parts made all over so if he introduces tariffs as he says he will then dreamliner is no longer viable
tjagain - MemberSee his speech about the dreamliner being built in the states? Its not. Its assembled from parts made all over so if he introduces tariffs as he says he will then dreamliner is no longer viable
Just as well the UK isn't doing anything as stupid as that to its manufacturing industry....
mikewsmith - Member
Do you actually follow that illustration through ... think about it.
Please in these tragic times we need some fun, what do you think it means.
Everyone else is there on the bit where Trump is a habitual liar, makes stuff up, refuses to back down on anything instead blaming anyone else around (if you hired the guy who can't provide you with accurate info then it is really your fault)
Then he goes after the accurate and responsible media for daring to not agree with his narrative while championing those that will print whatever he claims on the day.It's really quite simple.
Not enough responses yet so you just need to wait for the answer.
Keep them guess coming surely someone knows ... 🙄
😆mikewsmith - Member
the accurate and responsible media
Yeah the accurate and responsible media as opposed to Brietbart, Stuff what I made up.com, The White Supremacist Times and many other quality fake news sites that have zero interest in the truth.
Read any of the NYT, WSJ, Guardian, BBC, ABC Australia, Sydney Morning Herald etc articles, they contain things like facts, sources, checking, named sources in many cases, multiple sources where names are withheld etc.
That is accurate and responsible, remember to skip the opinion and head for the news reports. Yes there are some slants in there but in the basis of it all are facts.
Trump is not about facts.
They also contain their own fair shair of opinion touted as news aswell as outright balls.. Not to trump levels, but it should be recognised.
They also contain their own fair shair of opinion touted as news aswell as outright balls.
I think we need some examples of that, again from news reports not from opinion pieces (which most outlest lable as opinion)
[quote=seosamh77 ]They also contain their own fair shair of opinion touted as news aswell as outright balls.. Not to trump levels, but it should be recognised.
They're not even on the same planet as Trump. It's like comparing ant poo with elephant poo - they might both smell bad, but it's kind of hard to notice the ant poo when there's so much elephant poo around.
I'm not comparing, just saying the "news" isn't entirely unbiased or immune from bullshit. I'll let youse do your own research.
I'll let youse do your own research.
ah that old one
I'm not comparing, just saying the "news" isn't entirely unbiased or immune from bullshit.
But you are just casually throwing around
They also contain their own fair shair of opinion touted as news aswell as outright balls.
Now how much opinion to fact?
The 2 statements are not the same thing, a good deal of very high quality journalism is being tarred with the bias brush, largely because people's opinion doesn't always match the facts/information. The reason I asked for examples as most of the stuff I have been reading lately is good solid work with all the backup and presentation of the facts you would want, it may steer to a conclusion but it's one supported by the facts.
😆 I'm not here to convince you, believe what you will!mikewsmith - Member
I'll let youse do your own research.ah that old one
There is a chance I could be convinced if I saw some evidence....
good for you! 😆
Quality media - BBC / New York times / guardian, etc will have a fairly neutral news output. Editorial content of opinion will be different. Of course in the lower end of the media - sun, Express / fox news this line gets very blurred
... there, there ... problems. No transparency so not reliable. Don't you think they are Not that far off from the fake news? Actually they are in fake news territory.mikewsmith - Member
Read any of the NYT, WSJ, Guardian, BBC, ABC Australia, Sydney Morning Herald etc articles, they contain things like facts, sources, checking, named sources in many cases, [b][u]multiple sources where names are withheld etc.[/u][/b]
tjagain - Member
Quality media - BBC / New York times / guardian, etc will have a fairly neutral news output. Editorial content of opinion will be different. Of course in the lower end of the media - sun, Express / fox news this line gets very blurred
There is No such thing as neutral news. You want neutral news you go collect the news yourself otherwise the news you get all come the filtered lens of some highly paid editors somewhere. You agree with them because you have the same mind set. 😆
Whilst I would agree that, in its coverage of Trump, the BBC has been fairly moderate in its coverage (and at times overly kind to fascists - Trump, LePen etc), I don't think you can say they are necessarily [i]always[/i] without bias. All outlets have a choice of what to cover, and what angle to put on it.
In the coverage of the junior doctors' strike, I felt the BBC were very underhand in their choice of stories (zero coverage of strikes on an important day for us, but eerily well-timed articles about healthcare scandals). It was an important lifemoment when I realised that even Aunt Beeb were under [i]someone's[/i] thumb - shortly before charter renewal etc. Everyone has an agenda, even if [i]most[/i] of the time that is well-meaning.
Anyway, my point is that it's potentially dangerous to blindly believe your chosen news outlet without skepticism, whether that's the BBC, Fox News or the Donald.
P.S. In no way is this defence of Trump - he's clearly shown himself to be a moron in the last few days. A racist, egomaniacal, narcissistic moron. I mean, just watch the man himself in his own news conferences and make up your mind.
... there, there ... problems. No transparency so not reliable. Not that far off from the fake news don't you think so?
Errr, no - don't be silly. This is how journalism works, and has always worked. Why are you conflating transparency and reliability? The Pope endorsing Trump was just made up. That's the difference.
Superficial - Member
Errr, no - don't be silly. This is how journalism works, and has always worked. Why are you conflating transparency and reliability? The Pope endorsing Trump was just made up. That's the difference.
No, no they are reporters who are unable to report properly so decide to interpret, to extrapolate and to dramatise the events according to their views.
Remember even reporters need a job to hype up their own profile.
and right on cue the Sweeds have their answer
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/833435244451753984?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
That's right no need for a daily security briefing - I watch Fox
and rightly so the twitter word reesponed
https://twitter.com/hashtag/lastnightinsweden?src=hash
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