Donald! Trump!

Team by team, reporters baffled, trumped, tethered, cropped, look at that low plane...

Goodbye to Science, equlaity, womens health, healthcare, poor people (and not in a good way)
Hello to accepted racism and discrimination, hatred and oppression all in the name of freedom for rich old white men.

Next game, odds on impeachment or criminal convictions for Trump.

I can't believe this slow motion car crash... My wife and I worked hard for me to move out here, and now this total scrotum has lied, scaremongered and conned his way to the top, with no comprehension of the consequences... Shit is taking a turn South 😥

Anyone staying up?

I got back up at 3 to watch. Once Florida was called, it's all been downhill.

Arizona, Alaska and Wisconsin are effectively Trump wins already which means DT is on 268...

Oh America, what have you done to ALL of us?

It's also going to be a Republican triumvirate - Oval, House and Senate!

Oh well. Time to turn off the news, stop reading the papers, and retire to a cave to await the forthcoming apocolypse

The future of this post-truth politics world appears to lie with angry old white people

ZOMG , genuinely stunned.

post-truth politics

THIS.

WTAF is going on with the world?

My son had a few quid on a Trump win. Wonder what odds he got?

http://blog.paddypower.com/politics/2016/10/18/paddy-power-pay-out-hillary-clinton/

Yellowstone. Yellowstone YELLOWSTONE

97% of the vote counted in Pennsylvania and DT is ahead by 0.8%...if he wins Pennsylvania, it's all over.

@daffy, it would seem some people are sick of the system we have now and are reacting against it.

Oh well. Time to turn off the news, stop reading the papers, and retire to a cave to await the forthcoming apocolypse

mt - Member
@daffy, it would seem some people are sick of the system we have now and are reacting against it.

Perhaps, but personally I'd try to first fix a broken system before replacing it with unhinged one.

The 1930s replaying itself.

Been up all night, watching this since 4.

I f*****g give up.

I'm currently visiting an overwhelmingly democrat place at the moment (we're a few hours ahead here), and everyone I know here is in a state of shock and disbelief.

I've suggested that they start practicing the new allegiance speech: 'All Hail Supreme Leader Trump' - as you know he won't be satisfied with just 'president'...

Sad, sad, day, sad sad year.

It's SOs 40th next year - we were planning on a trip to NYC. Not anymore...

Ok, I'll rephrase that. It would seem that large sections of the population of some countries feel completely ignored and disaffected by politics on many levels. Economic mostly I suspect but there are loads of issues that leave whole sections of society frustrated and a bit angry, now give them a vote against the established system and what do you get? You can keep telling folk what's good for them when they can quite clearly see (to them) it's not good for them and you'll get f..k you response. So the system is not bad, it's the abuse by those that are shirking there responsibilities to society.

Not suprised. Feel a bit sick.
Crazy Bastids.
I considered not going to work this morning and getting pissed,
............. But I have to do the school run later.
"The end of the world as we know it", indeed.

My 12 year old daughter was absolutely appalled on the morning of the Brexit vote, by what 'the adults' had done to her future.

You should see the look and on her face this morning. How on earth do you try and explain this madness? This retreat from reason? This backward March to the 1930's

This shit is getting genuinely scary now. The angry idiots are most definitely winning

The angry idiots are most definitely winning

They've won. The concern is what will be left when they become losers again.

My 12 year old daughter was absolutely appalled on the morning of the Brexit vote, by what 'the adults' had done to her future.

Tell her to lighten up and enjoy her childhood. She'll have long enough to worry about the world when she has a say in matters.

WTF is wrong with kids today!

this is a bit "chickens come home to roost" for the septics, if you demonize left wing politics so much that even Bernie Sanders, who is probably right of Tony Blair, is considered a commie then you open yourself to the great unwashed lurching to a Trump.

I've just spent the last 3 hours sat in a room with 30 17/18 year olds watching this unfold. Total silence. Total incomprehension.

I have lost all faith in my ability to understand my fellow human being. Totally incomprehensible to me how anyone so manifestably unqualified can be seen as the best option by so many.

@binners, ask yourself why this is all happening, what are you doing to change it or even help it along. We all live in the same system. Be assured that being in or out off the EU has not wrecked your daughters future unless she was planning on being head of the EU commission.

Another protest vote goes wrong. Wow!

It's done Trump is ahead in Pennsylvania but more votes than are left to count don't know why it hasn't been called already

Sigh, 2016 is officially the year of stupid

Well, it's not going to be a landslide, but looking at the current voting, it's looking like it'll be 304 to Trump and 234 for Clinton...almost 30% more Electoral College votes. He might also win the popular vote.

Imagine that - Electoral College, Popular Vote, Senate and House to the Republicans...who'd have thought this would happen, certainly not the RNC.

It's all a bit weird over here right now.

I'm a Republocratertarian but usually align with more Republican views. Per another thread, I am also a gun owner.

I voted for Hillary.

Everyone I know did, even many registered Republicans, apart from some really hard core Republicans who think Hillary is a criminal.

Nobody in their right mind wants Trump to represent our country on the world stage. Hillary seems to actually have the popular vote, but Trump seems to have played the game enough to get the electoral votes.

I will try and ignore the 'Americans are idiots' comments while myself and the many millions here that voted against him here commiserate.

Sorry, we tried.

I think I may still be asleep and I'm dreaming. Surely this can't be happening?

this is a bit "chickens come home to roost" for the septics, if you demonize left wing politics so much that even Bernie Sanders, who is probably right of Tony Blair, is considered a commie then you open yourself to the great unwashed lurching to a Trump.

Alternatively, if the left successively demonise all right wing politicians as an existential threat to your existence (See LBJ's 'daisy' video through to the way the left talked about Reagan and Bush, then sooner or later the fable of the boy who cried wolf takes over and people stop listening to the alarmist rhetoric and hyperbole.

Holy Shit, I wasn't expecting that.

This won't end well.

Lol.

That is all.

Go on the Donald! I predict brexit remoaner levels of whining in this thread shortly.

I am genuinely concerned for how he will act in power.

Wtaf...

I go to bed SURE of a voting outcome.."surely the majority can't be that daft" I say....

Oh well..

DrP

I go to bed SURE of a voting outcome.."surely the majority can't be that daft" I say....

Replaying recent events here should have taken care of that one, really.

Oh America, what have you done? 🙁

Nobody in their right mind wants Trump to represent our country on the world stage

are you saying that there are that many deranged people in america?

I will try and ignore the 'Americans are idiots' comments

err you can't have it both ways

Part of the reason that Trump has succeeded is that he can afford it. Many more worthy and outstanding candidates are out there, but they do not have the money, or can garner enough support.

Any system that relies on candidates being able to raise $1 billion dollars to get in to office automatically reduces the gene pool of acceptable candidates. They were give the choice between very solid establishment and a bit of an outsider and they chose to believe the lies of the outsider. For us it looks mad, but a bit like any marriage the situation often appears different from within than without. All of the little things that influence people are more important than any big nefarious policies (bring back coal mining equals more jobs and climate change is not real sort of argument)

We are no different. A lot of people chose to believe lies and ignore facts to vote against a system that they think is skewed. To misquote Douglas Adams: you vote for the lizard, because if you don't then the wrong lizard might get in.

Yeah DrP, you'd think.

Uncertainty, description, regression looks to be the order of the day

the left successively demonise all right wing politicians as an existential threat to your existence (See LBJ's 'daisy' video through to the way the left talked about Reagan and Bush, then sooner or later the fable of the boy who cried wolf takes over and people stop listening to the alarmist rhetoric and hyperbole.

Bollox That's exactly how Nixon got into power and we all know how that turned out!

As for demonising? Trumps tirade of mysoginy and lies about Clinton, want there a poll that showed many people thought she was an actual demon?

So if the dollar is about to tank then it's it time to buy some light bycicle wheels?

Lol @ Dickyboy - caught me bang to rights 🙂

I was trying to point out that not 'all' Americans are idiots, as is often posited, but I'll give you that one.

So if the dollar is about to tank then it's it time to buy some light bycicle wheels?

along as they are not shimano, the pound is following the dollar down against the yen (-2.0%)

Tonight, I shall be rewatching "Idiocracy" in homage.

@kimbers, see its "year of stupid" comments that show people are voting for what some of us don't like. Why are people voting this way? Is it because they are treated as stupid? Ignored and expected to vote and shut up, are those stupid people pissed about something. I suppose the ignorance of those that call them stupid are as stupid as those they cannot understand. We have whole sections of society who feel (in their view and that's what counts here) they are ignored, there poorer, they have views, beliefs forced on them, they see others getting it all, whatever......, there called stupid. We living in a world were people in some countries are being excluded (in their view) from economic success, they'll turn on the expected norms in the end.

It's been a long night and I'm concerned about the result.

Oh the plus side...

Russian and Putin love the guy, so we swerve WW3 for a few years.

If the US does indeed become insular and stops trading with the Far East in favour on making their own shit they'll suffer, but in the cruel world of international economics what's bad for one is usually good for another.

He's old, Obama was 40ish when he took the helm, it's taken a big toll on him. Trump won't get a second-term.

The world needs a turning point, an point when the post-truth, blame-game politics has back-up its words with actions. There's not much of a chance he won't **** this up.

I will try and ignore the 'Americans are idiots' comments

You are going to have to try really hard - after all as a nation you did vote for him.

But who are the idiots - the mouth breathers who actually voted for him or the democratic/educated/minorities who knew this was a possibility but still failed to vote and put you/us in this situation?

Somewhere (10 pages back) I told you so.

He's unfit for the job but if we all survive the next five years maybe politicians will stop serving business and start listening to people.

Trumps tirade of mysoginy and lies about Clinton,

Oh, here ****ing it starts all over again!

"the people voted Trump because they were lied to..."
"they only voted Trump because he promised to spend £350 million a week on walls..."
"Only uneducated people voted Trump"
"He wrote something about Muslims on the side of a bus"

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The thing about the boy who cried wolf story is that the wolf did actually eat the sheep

I'm not a big fan of America with it's strange culture and OTT personality. I know that large parts of it's electorate are the typical Billy-Bob stereotype but I genuinely thought the majority of them were normal and educated.

I've been proved wrong this morning. I may break the smiley button here...

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Genuinely fear for the future if Trump does get in, before it was just a nightmare. At least we didn't get Boris as PM 😯

Wilburn +1

Agreed - politics needs a reset button.

On the bright side - at least we are no longer the laughing stock of the world

I wonder what he'll do first?

Arrest Hillary?
Stop all non white Christians from coming into the USA?
Send more armed patrols along the Mexican border?
Press 'the' button, because, you know, he can....

Wilburn +1

Agreed, it's a plus from me too.

I dont know what you guys are worried about....hes going to get done for rape eventually....

People on here keep saying that voters aren't stupid if they feel unrepresented by the current system, and they're voting for change. Those voters ARE stupid if they think that Trump will help the poor, white, working class etc...about the only policy he's actually said anything about is that he'll implement massive tax cuts for the wealthy. All that does is make the social divide bigger.

So if the dollar is about to tank then it's it time to buy some light bycicle wheels?

Might be a good time to buy some American Classics. 😉

An oldie but a goldie ....

Never argue with an idiot ... He'll drag you down to his level and beat with experience.

(Thats not to say his voters are idiots... some of you ought to be ashamed of yourself with your "stupid voters" or "angry idiots")

Well bloody hell!
Hopefully everyone can work together and common sense prevails. Obviously the vast majority of the promises made like the wall, NATO and Putin will be reigned in by congress and he's a figurehead president.
Sore winners.
There's sore winners everywher, ninfan.
Hillary just conceded on the phone.
Twitchy curtains? Not the first time for Donald, eh?
Soon be black friday.

..Brexit vote, Trump president, Isis still around...the most powerful have used their power for their own gains and not for generating equality...the oppressed are upset and the people who capitalise on this anger are the xenophobes like Trump and Farage...sad times.

Voters are idiots ? Uneducated ? When he said what he said about Mexicans, Muslims, locking up Hillary and all the rest , you think he said it for the fun of it ? He said it cos that's what the people wanted to hear and they loved it and the majority across the USA has voted him in as a result. He could have grabbed a pussy on stage and still won hands down.

Facism? Brexit? Get a grip man.

Hillary just conceded on the phone.

Well, she [i]was[/i] allowed one phone call 😆

I am sure the losers can go to the high court to challenge the decision?

@wrecker...I've edited it for you....I wasn't trying to say Brexit was facism...easier to remove the the words...

ninfan - Member

Hillary just conceded on the phone.

Well, she was allowed one phone call 😆

I'm lost on that one. What does it mean?

It's a reference to what Trump threatened to do to Hillary if elected.

The victory speech is so unlike the campaign it's hard to know who they elected. Is the ranting nutter the real Donald or the reasonable politician the real one. That said, the rhetoric in the speech is insane; promises he can't possibly deliver so I guess the crazy is still there.

As much as I detest him his speech now is actually quite good (for him!)

Pass the bleach and wire brush

Started ok (and predictable) it's now just waffly nonsense. Not the speech of a world leader, more of a gobshite. R4 cut away before the end it was so un-newsworthy.

My bet is that the republicans will give Trump a year tops just to keep up appearances, then "retire" him through ill health or somesuch. They'll get tired of trying to make him keep his big, fat, stupid mouth shut.

Its exactly the same as his campaign, big on noise, small on content.

Yep...I now retract my above post, he's rambling on now

Why are the news covering some pissed wedding speech now instead of the US election?

😯