Donald! Trump!

They better think of something quick coz President Trump is draining the swam and it's getting closer ... closer ... soon they will just have to comply.

mikewsmith - Member
and watch out for the sea monsters and dragons.

In Murica they have sasquatch aka big foot ...

Things certainly seem to be reaching fever pitch.

Initial predictions were that Trump would spend his whole time firefighting - I thought this would be from his past: sexual allegations, dodgy dealings etc (I also cant believe a NY property developer in the 80s and 90s hasn't been involved in some fairly serious criminal activity) - I hadn't thought that he's be quite so incompetent that he would be creating his own crises on a day-by-day basis.

Good to see that Comey (I assume) has leaked his notes from the Trump meetings.... calling Donald's bluff about tapes of the conversations.

political scientists who now have come to the conclusion he is working on full random mode rather than having any actual plan or direction.

Yeah, this is quite interesting. I have come to a similar conclusion with various people in my life over the years: You tie yourselves up in knots trying to figure out why they are acting as they are..... but then you realize that you are trying to apply logic to their behaviors, but what you're witnessing are the random flailing of an imbecile.

chewkw - Member
I have never been to the Americas.

I think you are thinking of nassie in the loch
In Murica they have sasquatch aka big foot ...

and that's a wrap folks...

@batfink for most politicians you can at least see a trait of self preservation, seeking relection, knowing who you can afford to piss off etc. but this one no idea. He is bouncing off some many things at one extreme you could call him a broard consensus politician but that does involve thinking he actually has a plan.

Sessions and Bannon have one which revolves around the idea that the Republican base will be a serious minority within 20 years, their vision of white god (the right one) fearing America is on it's way out and is scares the shit out of them.

Trump was the puppet they wanted to push their ideas through, unfortunaly for them he is more of the Blatter mould - a man who has 99 ideas a day and 100 of those are bad ones.

[quote=chewkw ]In Murica they have sasquatch aka big foot ...

small hands?

for most politicians you can at least see a trait of self preservation, seeking relection, knowing who you can afford to piss off etc. but this one no idea

Agreed. In my opinion he is viewing this as a very shot-term appointment. I think he has a list of self-serving objectives, and anytime after those are achieved we'll see the mother of all flounces, when he's decided that he's had enough and wants to go back to a life where nobody expects him to behave like anything other that the <expletive deleted> he is.

and wants to go back to a life where nobody expects him to behave like anything other that the <expletive deleted> he is.

He'll be a lot more vulnerable out of post!

I think Trump is going to become more and more isolated as people distance themselves from him before the inevitable meltdown, this in turn will speed up the process as he goes full Trump. And you never go full Trump.

"I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go," the president told Mr Comey, according to the memo. "He is a good guy."

ooohh, yeah thats a bad one right there

wonder what other gems comeys got to drop ?

Why ascribe malice to the president when incompetence alone explains everything? Remember these three words: Trump is stupid.

I think that Vice may have nailed it 🙁

whos waiting to see what hes spews out onto twitter this morning to directly contradict the statements his staff have had to put out regarding the latest fk up?

wonder if there really are tapes of those comey conversations 😉

Apparently Putin is ready to provide tapes/transcripts of Lavrov's converations with the Donald...

Whether this is because they're embarrassing, or not embarrassing, who knows, but I guess it's just to make Russia look straightforward while the White House looks desperate and shifty!

martinhutch - Member
Apparently Putin is ready to provide tapes/transcripts of Lavrov's converations with the Donald..

putin was recording in the whitehouse? 😯

putin was recording in the whitehouse

Russian media were there, American media were excluded.

President Trump's political opponents are so incompetent they jump at everything President Trump says.

Oh look President Trump says something impeach him quick ... 😯

Doesn't work that way silly goose coz the population, who have voted for President Trump, will not allow that to happen. 😆

Funny timing chewkw, as the figures actually show that by now majority of the US population is for impeaching him

Oh look President Trump says something impeach him quick ...

Doesn't work that way silly goose coz the population, who have voted for President Trump, will not allow that to happen.

Uh huh.

Why is Trump less impeachable than [url= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_process_against_Richard_Nixon ]Nixon[/url] was?

Popularity?

Nixon took 96.65% of the Electoral College votes and 60.67% of the Popular Vote.
Trump took 56.50% of the Electoral College votes and 45.98% of the Popular Vote.

Yep, if you believe former Tory flounce queen Mensch the case for impeachment is already drawn up.

Now that polls have shown a majority of public favour impeachment and crucially for republicans who control the senate, their own voters are turning against him, it's time to let a grown up have a turn

it's time to let a grown up have a turn

This is the part that worries me - who would replace Trump? Pence? Yikes!

We have a parallel with Nixon here - I presume one of the hold ups is getting rid of Pence first.

Mikkel - Member
Funny timing chewkw, as the figures actually show that by now majority of the US population is for impeaching him

You mean the make up bias fake news? 😆

I suggest the fake news start reporting President Trump at every opportunity that they get. Those fake news should try 100 times harder otherwise they are not earning their keep.

Oh look ... President Trump ... impeach him quick! 😆

In this story and others, there's a pattern of argument that is simplistic, naive and ill-informed, yet dogged and inflexible.

In my mind, that bovine-like attitude will forever be signalled by the emoticon: 😆

Doesn't work that way silly goose coz the population, who have voted for President Trump, will not allow that to happen

Once again, a determined effort to display breathtaking ignorance about how the US political system works.

Question for chewkw: What bike do you own, how often do you ride it? it's just that I don't think you've ever once posted in or responded to any single thread about cycling.

aracer - Member
We have a parallel with Nixon here - I presume one of the hold ups is getting rid of Pence first.

again according to mensch, both ryan & pence are also implicated so Orrin Hatch is being lined up , but thats getting a bit tinfoil

Dorset_Knob - Member

In this story and others, there's a pattern of argument that is simplistic, naive and ill-informed, yet dogged and inflexible.

In my mind, that bovine-like position will forever be best signalled by this emoticon:

Those silly geese keep turning and spinning their news as if they are the deciders. I mean if those silly geese cannot even overturn simplistic arguments you really have to think hard how silly they have become. It's that silly. It's a bit like dumb and dumber innit. 😆

PJM1974 - Member
Once again, a determined effort to display breathtaking ignorance about how the US political system works.

Question for chewkw: What bike do you own, how often do you ride it? it's just that I don't think you've ever once posted in or responded to any single thread about cycling.

good article in the ft

https://www.ft.com/content/f2847cb8-3a4e-11e7-821a-6027b8a20f23

If America’s political system were working as it should, Donald Trump would be on his way out. Either Congress would have started impeachment, or people around the president would have declared him unfit for office. But Mr Trump retains an ace up his sleeve. No elected Republican dares cross him. Any who think of standing up to him know they would risk an electronic lynching that could finish their career. Just ask Jeb Bush.

America’s government is at a dangerous impasse. Most people know Mr Trump is unfit to be commander-in-chief. But nobody with the power to redress it has found the courage to act.

The tragedy for America — and the world — is that this is likely to persist at least until next year’s US midterm elections. Even overt signs that Mr Trump is trying to obstruct justice, which was the first article of impeachment against Richard Nixon, are glossed over. Between a quarter and a third of Americans are diehard Trump supporters. They have the power to eject rebel Republicans in primary elections.

Is 'silly goose' a thing I have missed?

Is 'silly goose' a thing I have missed?

Oh c'mon ... we all love cycling ...

You do? I'd be really interested to hear all about your direct experiences with riding a mountain bike. You're never short of an opinion, I think we'd all value your views on axle standards, the current state of your local trails or indeed whether you actually have any sort of connection with mountain biking aside from only ever posting in the Off Topic section of a UK based mountain biking forum.

So, don't be shy...tell us all about what you ride and where.

it should manage to simulate the conversational ability of a doorknob by 7017

Trump hasnt tweeted for 19hrs, is he OK??

has he had his phone put in the naughty box?

hes tweeted at least once a day since becoming prez, maybe hes composing an epic multi-tweet rant

General Mattis stormed the oval office and broke his thumbs

Was amusing to see Trump making a speech in front of those Turkish flags as he welcomed President Erdo?an at the Whitehouse, someone who has pushed for a [url= http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2016/06/turkey-education-erdogan-devout-generation-plan.html ]"devout generation"[/url] in his supposedly secular nation.

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I can only imagine what Trump would have been tweeting about Obama in the same instance.

(The [url= https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/864565791076872192 ]speech itself[/url] was terrible. As always.)

Putin is now offering congress tapes of the conversation between Trump and Foreign Minister Lavrov.

Troll level: Expert.

PJM - this?

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So the US now have to ask the Russians to learn what's been going on in the Oval Office?

Looking forward to this one 😯 😆

http://time.com/4781153/donald-trump-islam-speech-saudi-arabia/

kimbers - Member

Anyway as you were ... 😆

edit: South Park is rather yesterday ... Family Guy and American Dad are much interesting at the moment.

thersa alive feed of trump at a coastguard grad ceremony rigfht nbow

its funny how insanely bored hes looked for the last 30+ mins listening to all the speeches

Apparently when they get Trump to read reports they're putting his name in as many times as possible to try and hold his interest for longer. The man is an idiot.

Whatever might be happening over there cannot hide the fact that the Trump cabinet is struggling to convey a clear and coherent message. Trump has undermined Conway, Spicer et al out of frustration and he's hung out some career non-partisan White House staffers out to dry, which will come back to bite him sooner or later.

Also, there's a very interesting piece about Kellyanne Conway in the New York Times: [url= https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/15/business/media/mika-joe-kellyanne-conway.html?_r=0 ]Bleurgh I need a shower[/url]

If I interpret American political commentators correctly, Republican rank and file are quickly becoming frustrated at having to make public excuses for their president and sooner or later, there will be divisions. Trump of course is well aware of this and is trying time-honoured boardroom tactics to keep everyone in line. The Russia thing could well bring the entire Republican party into disrepute and I daresay they'll jettison the president before a scandal mortally wounds the reputation of the GOP.

@chewkw

As an aside, tell us about your mountain biking experiences.

PJM1974 - Member
@chewkw

As an aside, tell us about your mountain biking experiences.

edit: ... in the meantime continue to enjoy President Trump draining the swam ... 😀

president snowflake 😀

https://twitter.com/DaniellaMicaela/status/864877550828257280

C'mon ... that's for the Bike Forum you know the other tab, ask me in the Bike Forum

You're generally a supporter of Republican presidents, correct?

edit: South Park is rather yesterday ... Family Guy and American Dad are much interesting at the moment.

Mmmm yes...

@Chewkw

Your thoughts on this, please.

[url= http://road.cc/content/news/170258-its-official-donald-trump-hates-cyclists ]Trump hates cyclists...[/url]

Might have something to do with this...

According to the stories, Trump stopped athletics after college because he “believed the human body was like a battery, with a finite amount of energy, which exercise only depleted.”

[quote=kimbers ]president snowflake
> https://twitter.com/DaniellaMicaela/status/864877550828257280
br />

pretty sure the dead ones who were killed by revolutionaries fared a wee bit worse than him or all the assassinated USA ones

he may be assured of this but as usual his confidence is utterly unrelated to his accuracy

the more righteous you are the more opposition you get

I gave up then its like listening to your mad drunken uncle at xmas

PJM1974 - Member
You're generally a supporter of Republican presidents, correct?

GrahamS - Member
Mmmm yes...

Both those clips are brilliant coz they are so funny. 😆

Peter Griffin rules! If you watch Family Guy often you should know that Brian the dog is a leftie like you lot. You lot have been portrayed as a dog in the sketch. It's so true. 😆

PJM1974 - Member
@Chewkw
Your thoughts on this, please.
Trump hates cyclists...

akira - Member
Might have something to do with this...

south park have done some brilliant stuff on trump

he is basically eric cartman, after all

kimbers - Member
south park have done some brilliant stuff on trump

he is basically eric cartman, after all

You do know that Eric Cartman is the best character in South Park? 😛

akira - Member

According to the stories, Trump stopped athletics after college because he “believed the human body was like a battery, with a finite amount of energy, which exercise only depleted.”

I would have thought he stopped doing athletics because of his heel spurs, which made him unfit for military service. No? No?

edit: South Park is rather yesterday ... Family Guy and American Dad are much interesting at the moment.

Not really. It's all about South Park, Bojack Horseman and Rick and Morty at the moment.

You do know that Eric Cartman is the best character in South Park?

Except Trump is Mr Garrison.

Whoooooo Humans.

Also, that video is really worth a watch.

Tom_W1987 - Member
Not really. It's all about South Park, Bojack Horseman and Rick and Morty at the moment.

Except Trump is Mr Garrison.
Whoooooo Humans.

South Park is on 5Star on freeview tonight at 23:00 2 episodes, only up to season 16 tho

btw Trump has managed his 1st 24hrs as president without sending a tweet!!

last nights ranting and swearig at staffers which allegedly went on for several hours is a sign that hes struggling this quote today from him was just hilarious though...

Look at the way I’ve been treated lately. Especially by the media. No politician in history, and I say with with great surety, has been treated worse, or more unfairly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Assassinated_politicians_by_nationality

IT security at Mar-a-Lago and other properties Trump uses regularly.
You couldn't make it up.
https://www.propublica.org/article/any-half-decent-hacker-could-break-into-mar-a-lago?utm_campaign=sprout&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=1495040491

kimbers - Member
South Park is on 5Star on freeview tonight at 23:00 2 episodes, only up to season 16 tho

Rosenstein appoints Special Counsel to lead Russia investigation.
Robert Mueller is ex FBI director under both rep & dem presidents.
Subpoenas aplenty!
Manafort's financial dealings back in the spotlight.
Trump will either resign - ill health anyone? - or be impeached; either way, gov will be paralysed by inaction.
Pres Pence??? His background will be investigated to the Nth degree.
What a ****ing mess.

I particularly like that the DOJ didn't tell the whitehouse in advance of the appointment, because see how you like it.

But, but, but.... Hillary would have been worse. Right? Her emails!

F-ing cretins

Trump and Pence to go? Going to make the mid terms fun, I wonder how much collateral there will be

I dunno how Pence is regarded within his own party - to me it seems like anyone associated with Trump (particularly that closely) is going to be implicated.

Yep - the honeymoon is over

The republicans have got a tough job to replace trump whist not losing support from the (just under) half the country that voted for him - who I'm guessing are all republicans.

They need democrats to get the impeachment to work if they go for it, like Nixon it will probably involve them both going - at the least Pence in up to his neck in the Flynn problem.

Voting wise, I reckon they will be going lower and lower, approvals show how unpopular he is, it could end up with a lot of deadlock. the only question really is if there was Russian collusion in the election is the result challengeable?

I think part of the deal (with the democrats) would be for a relatively moderate replacement, with promises to not to aggressively pursue some of the more controversial republican agendas - basically a caretaker until the next election.

It will be interesting how much of Trump's mess they walk-back on.

I think challenging the result (to the point that they are voting again) would take more that a term anyway.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/17/us/politics/michael-flynn-donald-trump-national-security-adviser.html
It's certainly going to taint quite a few if even half of this is true. Not so much errors or judgement or failing to check properly but blatent ignoring of massive issues!!
There will be a lot of stuff coming out of these inquireys that could end some careers.

This made me smile:
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He's back, complete with snowflake-whining, diversionary tactics and poor spelling.

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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/865169927644340224

He's gone for sure, you cannot have a president of the most powerful nation on earth acting like a whiney little cockbag on twitter.

Hasn't seemed to hold him back so far.

as y'know, no one has ever been hounded by the media like he has, like, ever, in the whole know universe, ever, bigly.

Are we sure he's not a comedy president from a spoof movie? Somewhere there is a real president being handed a dreadful script and looking puzzled.

To summarise Trump's presidency so far:

The Press: Why has Trump been linked with *?

Trump: Fake news! I'm going to launch an investigation into Obama's links with *.

The Press: Why has Trump been seen consorting with * at * on * date?

Trump: I'm going to launch an investigation into Obama/Clinton consorting with * at * on * date.

The Press: Why is the director of the FBI investigating the president over links with *

Trump: I'm going to fire the director of the FBI because they haven't investigated Obama/Clinton over links with *

The Press: Why has Trump been seen talking with **** in the Oval Office, with classified information being discussed?

Trump: No politician, ever has been treated worse than me. Not even Leon Trotsky.

Meanwhile, the White House has sprung more leaks than your average sinking ship.

According to his latest tweet:

This is the single greatest witch hunt of a politician in American history!

Presumably that makes him the single greatest witch? 😆

..politician?

theres even a recording of senior reps in 2016 discussing whether Trump is in the pay of Putin 😯

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/house-majority-leader-to-colleagues-in-2016-i-think-putin-pays-trump/2017/05/17/515f6f8a-3aff-11e7-8854-21f359183e8c_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_transcript-6pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.9f17d50395fc

transcript here
https://www.washingtonpost.com/apps/g/page/national/read-the-transcript-of-the-conversation-among-gop-leaders-obtained-by-the-post/2209/