cchris2lou - Member250000 signatures on petition to cancel his state visit !
Great Kudos indeed for T May !
😆 ^^^ ... nearly 64.1 million people in the UK ...
Does petition work in France? Coz me French mates would like to sign one too to tell the French President to limit some migration.
He is based in the US. His family live there. Not being there at the moment means he can't go.
This is all mentioned on previous pages. It's more I am doing an experiment, in to just how much chewkwk is cherry picking/ignoring bits of the thread. It appears to be bad enough that he is not worth engaging with. I know on the surface that statement seems obvious, but doesn't hurt to check.
Jamie - Member
This is all mentioned on previous pages. It's more I am doing an experiment, in to just how much chewkwk is cherry picking/ignoring bits of the thread. It appears to be bad enough that he is not worth engaging with. I know on the surface that statement seems obvious, but doesn't hurt to check.
Non-issue, especially when he can train in other parts of the world.
slowoldman - Member
He is based in the US. His family live there. Not being there at the moment means he can't go.
Not the end of the world.
Train somewhere else or be with his family.
Non-issue.
Jamie - Member
This is all mentioned on previous pages. [b]It's more I am doing an experiment, in to just how much chewkwk is cherry picking/ignoring bits of the thread.[/b] It appears to be bad enough that he is not worth engaging with. I know on the surface that statement seems obvious, but doesn't hurt to check.
chewkw - MemberNon-issue, especially when he can train in other parts of the world.
Genuine LOL
Couldn't get the same "medical" support elsewhere.
Maybe Russia, possibly.
But not as easily as it used to be.
😉
loum - Member
Couldn't get the same "medical" support elsewhere.
Maybe Russia, possibly.
But not as easily as it used to be.
How about the Kenyans?
Many world class distance runners come from Kenya.
Do you think Kenyans train in Merica?
piemonster - Member
Genuine LOL
I don't have to cherry pick because the answer is so easy. True. 😛
Chewey, there are 65000 people an hour signing the petition at the moment. It's at 340000 now.
There seems to be some confusion at the top in the White House, the chief of staff is saying green card holders will be allowed in, in direct contradiction of the executive order.
Look up empathy in the dictionary chewkw, how would you feel if through no fault of your own you might not be allowed to go to your home and see your family.
Chewk breXi zombie how you feel when cowboy says he don't want you in uk land?
True
False
jimw - Member
Chewey, there are 65000 people an hour signing the petition at the moment. It's at 340000 now.
Keep signing ... as there are nearly 64.1 million people in the UK ...
If that is democracy then it will also work in future where the minority kick up a big fuss opposing your preferred system.
Yes, do it set the precedent that the louder you shout with lesser number the more you will achieve in a democratic country.
There seems to be some confusion at the top in the White House, the chief of staff is saying green card holders will be allowed in, in direct contradiction of the executive order.
That is for them to sort out and certainly not the affairs of other nations.
akira - Member
Look up empathy in the dictionary chewkw, how would you feel if through no fault of your own you might not be allowed to go to your home and see your family.
I choose.
My family come to me
or
I stay where I am for 3 months until the ban is over.
Any of the above choice is better than seeing my entire family in harms' way.
I go home. True.zippykona - Member
Chewk breXi zombie how you feel when cowboy says he don't want you in uk land?
piemonster - Member
True
False
😆
I was going to add my name to the petition but then read the reason for it.
Donald Trump should be allowed to enter the UK in his capacity as head of the US Government, but he should not be invited to make an official State Visit because it would cause embarrassment to Her Majesty the Queen.
FFS! Because it would embarrass the queen? What about the rest of us who need to pay for the bloody thing?
km79 - Member
FFS! Because it would embarrass the queen? What about the rest of us who need to pay for the bloody thing?
Who are you?
What is your name?
As for the Queen, she is "Elizabeth II has been Queen of the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand since 6 February 1952." (Ref: Wiki)
upto 386,206 on the petition
Well when a reality tv star ups his game to become a reality tv president you know it's gonna be great time.
I see that May has been forced into an embarrassing climb down, a few hours before it was the united states business.
Didn't May tell us a few days ago that she would be able to tell trump when he was wrong?
Still to afraid to do so herself, she is instructing her ministers to contact his ministers and complain that way.
Yes Boris is on the case .
Over 400,000 now, personally i think he should be allowed to come but people should protest when he arrives and block all exits from the airport so he's stuck in his car
Yep she's not up to speed with "Tweeting" 🙂
Well let him in and shut our borders down for 3 months would be funnier.
Over 400,000 now,
#fakebrits
km79 - MemberFFS! Because it would embarrass the queen?
No, because it would embarrass Her Majesty the Queen.
Show a bit of respect. And get your hair cut and have a bath.
yip, it's a ridiculous petition.km79 - Member
I was going to add my name to the petition but then read the reason for it.Donald Trump should be allowed to enter the UK in his capacity as head of the US Government, but he should not be invited to make an official State Visit because it would cause embarrassment to Her Majesty the Queen.
FFS! Because it would embarrass the queen? What about the rest of us who need to pay for the bloody thing?
Genuine question, how do I block seeing all posts by that chewy fella. His jibberish ruins threads, adds no value, I ignore them anyway but its every second post ffs.
I know there was a thread somewhere but can't find it from a search
ego maniac nutjob in the whitehouse, ego maniac nutjob in the kremlin.... britain just about to cut it's self adrift aboard hms brexshit. We are going down with all hands 🙁
Well it seems Chewy might be right in his adulation and the rest of us are just catching up. You see Farage says [url= http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/donald-trump-nigel-farage-brexit-trade-deal-poll-british-people-warming-a7550711.html ]"British people are warming to Trump"[/url]
I ignore them anyway
Well it's not really a problem then.
Unless you've got a problem with your scrolling function.
slowoldman - Member
Well it seems Chewy might be right in his adulation and the rest of us are just catching up. You see Farage says "British people are warming to Trump"
Crikey do you have to rely on another reporter's opinions?
Okay let's read another reporter's opinions from [url= http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/01/trumps-america-first-nationalism-may-offensive-not-war-mongering/ ]The Spectator - Trump’s ‘America First’ nationalism may be extreme – but it is not war-mongering'[/url]
This thread increasingly reads like how I'd imagine a dementia forum.
It does seem that apart from Syria, the Countries of Concern were defined by Obama's Administration in a 2015 act. https://sethfrantzman.com/2017/01/28/obamas-administration-made-the-muslim-ban-possible-and-the-media-wont-tell-you/
So Obama Administration says anyone who previously had a visa waiver, british tourists for example, will no longer have that waiver if they travel to certain "at risk countries" (the same 7 countries on Trumps list, presumably provided by state department/security staffers) is the reason/facilitated this travel ban on muslims. 🙄 is that what you are saying ?
It's hardly comparable tbh. And it seems pretty clear that the writer of that blog is intentionally misleading (rather than just misunderstanding)- there was no "ban", there was only a difference in procedure for specific people with stronger connections to those countries (they had to apply for a visa rather than being eligible for visa free travel)
"The media won't tell you this" because it's bollocks.
That poll's incredible. It's going up by a couple of hundred every few seconds. I've never seen one do that before.
(Amusingly, it was 444,444 when I saw it. It's gone up another four thousand in the time it's taken me to write this.)
Okay let's read another reporter's opinions from The Spectator - Trump’s ‘America First’ nationalism may be extreme – but it is not war-mongering'
The reporter says:
I would rather have an America that protected its borders to the point of being illiberal to one that kept blowing up the Middle East in the name of freedom and democracy. Wouldn’t you?
I would certainly like an America that didn't keep blowing up the Middle East. If it stopped doing that it wouldn't have to close its borders.
Genuine question, how do I block seeing all posts by that chewy fella. His jibberish ruins threads, adds no value, I ignore them anyway but its every second post ffs.
Yep, I want to do this too but no obvious way to block, do you need to be a paid up member to see the function?
slowoldman - Member
The reporter says:
I would rather have an America that protected its borders to the point of being illiberal to one that kept blowing up the Middle East in the name of freedom and democracy. Wouldn’t you?
It's not an either or situation, lets see how trumps modernisation of the military plays out. If it was an either or situation, why the need for trumps comments on the military. They have more than enough to protect their borders.
No. There are a couple of ways to do it but they are add-ons for Chrome and Firefox.
Of course, if everyone just annoyed him he'd eventually get bored and piss off. It's just a shame so many pander to him. There are other folk on here you can disagree with and indulge in a reasonable debate.
I'll just put this here:
[url= http://www.ted.com/talks/robb_willer_how_to_have_better_political_conversations ]http://www.ted.com/talks/robb_willer_how_to_have_better_political_conversations[/url]
Christians in the Middle-East have been executed in large numbers. We cannot allow this horror to continue!
I presume if these Christians become refugees and were from the one of seven countries they would be denied entry into the US ? #notamuslimbanyeahright
slowoldman - Member
The reporter says:
I would rather have an America that protected its borders to the point of being illiberal to one that kept blowing up the Middle East in the name of freedom and democracy. Wouldn’t you?I would certainly like an America that didn't keep blowing up the Middle East. If it stopped doing that it wouldn't have to close its borders.
The problem is this. Big powerful nations (the traditional few) or those that consider themselves (the proxies) having slight increased in power or those that think they have moral high grounds will Always / want to intervene in other nations affairs thus escalating the problems for everyone.
The solution is simple. Stay out and stay gone. Let them deal with their problems themselves and let them fight until their heart content. Let them help the nature recycle. If you wish to support one side or the other then be prepared to let others join in too. However, if they start to cross into other nations then they should be dealt with swiftly.
It's hardly comparable tbh. And it seems pretty clear that the writer of that blog is intentionally misleading (rather than just misunderstanding)- there was no "ban", there was only a difference in procedure for specific people with stronger connections to those countries (they had to apply for a visa rather than being eligible for visa free travel)
But, you can't argue that it doesn't explain the countries encompassed by the 2017 ban, when the Usual suspects were claiming that it was random or affected by Trumps business interests. So, how come Obama picked those same countries? Maybe it's because there's genuine concerns.
Of course, if everyone just annoyed him he'd eventually get bored and piss off. It's just a shame so many pander to him. There are other folk on here you can disagree with and indulge in a reasonable debate.
He's like a Chinese finger trap. The more you engage, the harder it is to extricate oneself.
It's not an either or situation, lets see how trumps modernisation of the military plays out. If it was an either or situation, why the need for trumps comments on the military. They have more than enough to protect their borders.
I thought my second paragraph answered the assertion.
Klunk yes some of the Christians who escaped ISIS genocide have been refused entry as a result of Trump's executive order.
