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Now J (Divan) Vance is lecturing the Pope regarding quoting theology!
A great piece on FB by an American Catholic priest setting out the requirements for a "just war" under the agreed Catholic doctrine and it was even more brutally obvious why this disaster does not meet any of the criteria.
Vance is out of his depth in a puddle
Yeah it's amusing
I think you may have misunderstood what I (clearly poorly) wrote, that Iranian propaganda is being spread all over social media by chuckling idiots who say idiotic things in support of it because it takes the piss out of Trump. They conveniently ignore, or forgot, or just plain don't know that the people making it are themselves; massive arseholes.
Some fair points made about sharing stuff originating from the Iranian regime. Mea culpa, in the form of one of the "Lego videos", can't remember if it was on here or the Iran thread. However....
I and I think most of us are well aware that the Iranian regime are a bunch of twunts. The thing is though, we get an extremely one sided view of the conflict and much of what we are exposed to emanating from the US administration, could also be considered to be propaganda imv. So I think there is merit in taking a look at some of the material being put out by Iran, as a balance but also as a study in propaganda methodology.
I follow the Ukraine war closely and I watch clips of Russian state TV from propagandists like Vladimir Solovyov for the same reason. I have shared some of these on the Ukraine thread, not because I support the Kremlin POV! but because I think there is value in seeing what both sides think, or at least the message they want to put out.
Some of the Iranian stuff is slick, uses social media in an extremely canny way and actually contains a lot of hard hitting home truths amongst the obvious rhetoric and conspiracy nonsense. I reckon most on here are savvy enough to spot the difference between the two and I think it is worth taking a look at. YMMV.
Edit. For clarity, as bad as the current US administration is, I'm absolutely not claiming there is any kind of equivalence between what is still a democracy and a brutal theocratic dictatorship. Just that the messaging put out by both needs to looked at by anyone wanting to get a better understanding of the war.
The wierd horned creature in the original Jesus Trump picture is apparently Baal, according to a couple of different sources I read the other day.
The Iranian Lego trolling posted in the Iran thread make reference to Baal as well.
I've avoided watching all the Iranian propaganda. That so many people are so willing to spread it is utterly depressing.
I couldn't agree more.
Now J (Divan) Vance is lecturing the Pope regarding quoting theology!
he needs to turn his attention to hegseth who has delivered a sermon to the pentagon quoting a passage from Ezekiel 25/ 17. Not the one from the bible though - the one from pulp fiction
Propaganda: The systematic dissemination of information, esp. in a biased or misleading way, in order to promote a particular cause or point of view, often a political agenda. Also: information disseminated in this way; the means or media by which such ideas are disseminated.
This thread? BBC news? Fox news? Al Jazeera news? Iranian state television news?
Is trump losing it or is that propaganda from his opponents?
I haven't watched any of the Iranian propaganda clips but they are definitely working because they are being talked about so much. Do you think they took the deliberate step of Lego movie to be polar opposite to DoW's macho top gun chuck Norris style? Does doing that make it stand out and be talked about as opposed to laughed at?
I am also aware of the irony of posting on a propaganda thread and choosing which propaganda to accept.
he needs to turn his attention to hegseth who has delivered a sermon to the pentagon quoting a passage from Ezekiel 25/ 17. Not the one from the bible though - the one from pulp fiction
It's fitting that Hegseth misquoted a film as he is definitely a film character himself. The tragedy is that he doesn't realise it. Maybe he would if he were ever sober?
He's never suffered any real-world consequences for anything he's ever done in his entire miserable life. Rape, bankruptcy, forming an insurrection, to name but a few. No wonder he's like he is
This. Plus despite everything he's still been voted in as President, twice. He's absolutely no cause to change his ways.
All he's using the presidency for is enriching himself and his family, trying to get his name and image on as much stuff as possible, and jetting round on AF/M 1.
He's carving out an alternative narrative for himself and his followers that's completely at odds to the reality, but he couldn't care less. He's in power and he's getting even richer. He's not a politician/statesman, he's no loyalty to the Republican party, nor anyone outwith his family. The long term effects on the GOP or Americans in general is just not something he cares about.
So I think there is merit in taking a look at some of the material being put out by Iran
I absolutely agree, I've watched some of them. I think it's genuinely fascinating to watch this other "war" in real time, but it's pretty depressing seeing some of them pop up time and again with some vacuous commentary on SM channels.
An atheist who only converted to Catholicism in 2019 questioning the Pope's grasp of theology? It's like binners criticising the top Parisian chef de patisserie, based on the fact he knows his way around a Greggs sausage roll!
The Iranian government killing Iranians isn't a joke. But neither is the USA government killing Americans a joke
FTFY
One's an totalitarian regime where a corrupt ruling family has control, foreigners are arrested on trumped up charges, women's rights have been eroded, and dissenters are shot in the street. And the other is Iran.
Should we be on the Iranian government's side, nope. Is their Lego propaganda a little too close to the truth at times, yup. It seems objectively more true than what the white House is putting out, and as usual the truth lies somewhere in between (or way off on an entirely different axis).
I'll happily watch and laugh at the propaganda from all sides.....
But Iran are, imo, doing a better job at it. Doesn't mean I support the regime in Iran, but neither do I support that in the USA not in Israel.
He's on the telly at the moment, getting shouted at by journalists outside that big helicopter. If only he could get sucked into the rotor blades.
