Been following his latest outbursts on the campaign trail for nomination.
I've got a sneaking feeling that he'd be an excellent choice, if only for the comedy value.
Imagine President Trump meeting Philthegreek for the first time, for instance...
He's an utter bellend. I think he'll fit right in.
Given that they elected George W twice I wouldn't put anything past our cousins but seriously!?
Douche! Bag!
Some the stuff he's spouting is either going to attract or repel the rednecks in equal measure.
Personally I thinks he's a pretty offensive human being, but lucky for him I cant vote for him!
He really does boil my wee! 👿
Banging on about immigrants in his country yet he saw fit to turf folk off their land to build a friggin golf course in ours. He is the worlds biggest bell end!
Given that they elected George W twice I wouldn't put anything past our cousins but seriously!?
Elected twice, but only [i]voted[/i] in once
swavis is right for reasons too numerous to mention.
turbines far off coast spoiling the view of a man made golf course with hotels, houses and lord knows what. GRRRRR.
Lets be honest, they've hardly got a good recent track record....
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The bell end vote would appear to be massive in the states. He clearly knows this
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I walked past him near Trump Tower, he was with 3 heavy looking blokes and he looked completely insignificant with his ridiculous comb-over.
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the hairpiece is the intelligence in the equation.
he was a lowly sewerage worker,when the alien hairpiece found him,and now look what has happened.
his hairpiece will kill i warn you (when he sleeps/as he's just the host to it).
just when you least expect it,out it will jump from the air conditioner and choke you to death 😯
Yup, total buffoon of the highest order, terrifying that following all the laughing when he announced he was running he's promptly ended up 2nd in polls.
The a**hole vote seems as strong as ever.
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I still have some hope that the Mexican drug lord will take exception to what Trump said about him and teach his mouth a lesson.
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So it's not entirely in-conceivable that Trump could be in power in the US whilst Boris is in power in the UK. God help us.
We watch The Apprentice USA from time to time, he's like a big, stupid kid. Very little in the way of redeeming features.
Not that I think McCain would make q particuarly good president, but I think Trumps comment was really below the belt considering what McCain went through, and has probably ended any chance Trump had.
This puts his comment on McCain into a historic perspective...
Not that I think McCain would make q particuarly good president, but I think Trumps comment was really below the belt considering what McCain went through, and has probably ended any chance Trump had.
Yeah, Right!
Poll: Trump surges to big lead in GOP presidential race
If in doubt, play the immigration card...
A horrible horrible man.....
I wonder what he saw in that incredibly wealthy man.
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Been watching from afar. Seems to be the product of not being stood up to for a very long time. If all you ever hear is yes, of course, how right you are Mr trump sir perspective is gone. Imagine how long his speech writer's last.
On the up side he is ballsing up the right enough that whoever gets past him to nomination will be skint tired and have had every sordid little detail of their life shown in 4k I max 3d for all to see so my money is on Clinton.
Aye Kit,and a wee award from the [url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-11493040 ]Teuchters[/url]
RGU chancellor Sir Ian Wood CBE told Mr Trump at the ceremony: "We are very pleased to honour you today in recognition of the significant contribution the Scottish Trump International golf resort will make to diversify the economy of the north east of Scotland."
They must be very proud.
I don't have a problem wit Trump, I have a problem with the entourage that surrounds/informs/manipulates him. He's just the front of a very odd organisation.
IMO
he looked completely insignificant with his ridiculous comb-over.
And yet...
And yet that ridiculous comb-over has managed to fool everyone into believing that he's not going bald ?
Novelty value only, he has no chance of being elected. @bikebouy he hired the entourage and pays their wages so why wouldn't they give the boss exactly what he's asking for ?
Cock Womble totally apt and well played @slow 🙂
He only has to beat Clinton, which I don't think would be very hard.
I had the great misfortune of being introduced to Donald Trump once. A friend said would you like to meet my friend to which the Donald replied, depends on how many millions he has and walked off without saying a word.
Very nice bloke.
But he did say a few words LHS, enough to make sure everyone usderstood what sort of individual he is
I remember thinking 'Ronald Reagan could never get himself voted into the top job'.
Novelty value only, he has no chance of being elected
I remember people saying something similar about Dubya during the primaries.
Trouble is that in the American heartlands his bluff 'straight talking' persona plays well and there is an intense dislike of a (largely imagined by Fox News)) elite of effete, metropolitan liberals.
As a result, the gleeful mocking of Trump by various comedians and the twitterati actually plays very well for him amongst the conservative base who love anyone that leaves the 'Liberal Elite' fizzing with incredulous outrage.
That said, John Stewart nails it, as per usual.
Seems to be the product of not being stood up to for a very long time. If all you ever hear is yes, of course, how right you are Mr trump sir perspective is gone.
This is completely misplaced. Donald Trump has been the subject of dismissals and criticisms in the strongest possible terms for decades. He has endured dismal failures and been taken to the cleaners by numerous banks. Trump has heard very many nos in his life. He does not believe that he would be a good president - but that's okay, because the point of this exercise is to build his personal brand, not to win.
All words verbatim:
Conversely:
7 months ago I posted here he couldn't win. Sadly he's starting to look unstoppable for the Repiblican nomination,we'll know for sure i just 10 days. Bush who I thought would be the nominee has now withdrawn.
[url= http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-35624026 ]BBC News[/url]
So looking like Trump vs Clinton then, last hope for sanity.
He appeals to a lot of Americans, they have similar views. TBH add that and charisma together and its a winning formula.
I'm surprised you couldn't see that from the outset..
I'm expecting a very very close margin to the Whitehouse..
It really could come down to one last TV appearance..
He got 33% of the vote in a republican primary so what would that mean in votes an actual General election ? Would be interesting if the republican race was only 2 candidates like the democrats , where would trump be ie 77% of people didn't vote for him
Charisma? Well I suppose some might call it that.
If you think about the people he appeals too, it's not hard to understand the charisma he has and the fact they think like he does.
It'll be a tough one.
I might just stick my neck out and say he gets in.
[quote=moonsaballoon ]He got 33% of the vote in a republican primary so what would that mean in votes an actual General election ? Would be interesting if the republican race was only 2 candidates like the democrats , where would trump be ie 77% of people didn't vote for him
VIew i like Corbyn being massively popular with labour voters and able to win their leadership but much less popular with the General electorate
Like Corbyn [ though even more so] a large swathe of the party detest him and he wont even win all the Republican party votes
He may be popular within the party he is not with the electorate
He has very little chance of winning the actual race to the white house as he appeal to a narrow band of the party rather than the electorate as a whole
American politics strikes me as being massively partisan amongst the electorate but much less so when it comes to the horse trading inside congress. (That's just an impression - I'm sure the reality is more nuanced.)
As I understand it, there are lots of reasonable republicans, for whom Teump would be an embarrassment. Is there any polling on how these republicans would vote if it was Trump v A.N. Other (Dem)?
Would they vote a monkey from the GOP rather than a democrat? Would they just stay at home? Would some of them actually vote Dem to keep Trump out?
Many members of the GOP detest him so it seems reasonable to suggest that many of their core voters will abstain
He is many things but he wont be winning over the middle ground moderate and surely anyone, whatever their actual politics, can see that this man would be a ****ing disaster in any important role requiring compromise, diplomacy and a modicum of not being an utter utter ****
In a country of bizarre political races...I thought Palin was pushing the boundaries of credibility... 😯
I also sense a large part of the republican vote would abstain. Then again, they've had (or will have had) eight years without one of their own at the White House...you never know.
Indeed
However its a bit like we only had one right wing party and they vote frage- plenty of right leaning ofok would not be supporting him even in a two horse race - well they might if Corbyn was the alternative but you get the point
I think we just have to remember that the party members are considerably more right wing than the electorate as Palin and Trump show
I pray that Bush was the extent of the US dalliances with a moron but time will tell.
If he gets into the whitehouse, it will put american politics back by 10 years!
You might not agree with OH-bamas policies, but at least he has his own brain and you think, can understand how to tread the middle ground. Trump is a rich idiot, and the US is bad enough already when it comes to being insular and self obsessed.
Clinton attracts almost as much hatred from sections of the GOP vote as does Trump from the Democrats. There will be many GOP voters who don't particularly want Trump but most definitely will not abstain and let in Clinton. It's a two horse race, he really could win it all 😯
@bikebouy, I misread the situation, totally really. Trumps popularity/familiarity from his 10+ years on the TV plus his "no nonsense / not politically correct" messages have been very powerful
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Loved this:
Brilliant. Let's just hope enough people are listening in 'Merica.
Struggling to see why jambalaya and LHS wouldn't be fans of Trump.
Never heard of John Oliver before but enjoyed that. Drumpf he will be for me for evermore (especially with the Chrome extension 😀 ).
Holy thread resurrection Batman.
It looks like he may win.
My take on it is this: He is going to make N. America self sufficient and his foreign policy is "We don't care"
He appeals to the working class, even donning a baseball cap which is so cliched I'm amazed he gets away with it. He's republican now (was supportive of the Clintons) and they are not usually sympathetic to the actual needs of the working class but he may appeal to their aspirations.
He has tapped into a deep well of discontent which has been festering in the USA for sometime. He makes it look like there's a simple answer to all of this - remove any outside interference.
Personally, I think Bernie Sanders has the best attitude but he's too old!.
Its sort of interesting how this will play out. Trump gets in, advisers around him says "No, you can't do that because of x,y,z" Sacks anyone who doesn't do things his way. Try's to deliver on his promises and then it all falls apart globally.
Whay am I concerned? Its USA's business but they have an influence.
closetroadie - MemberPersonally, I think Bernie Sanders has the best attitude but he's too old!
He's only a couple of years older than Reagan was when he took office.
The sad irony... Repeated polling says Sanders is best placed to win- he outperforms all other presidential candidates. But he won't get a chance to run, because his party is going to select Clinton, who is considerably less likely to win.
Obviously, polling is only polling, but these results are being returned pretty consistently now. Pretty bizarre tbh- polling of democrats has often suggested that they see electability as a key reason to vote Clinton over Sanders, even though the exact opposite seems to be the case.
@closet - this thread seems to be the main one these days [url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/us-election ]Linky[/url]
Yes sadly it looks like he will win the nomination and may well win the election come November
@Northwind Bernie would not stand a snowballs chance of winning the Presidency. Zero. If the Republicans could get him to win the nomination they'd make it happen - think Corbyn here. In any case he's so far behind Hillary he cannot catch up.
Best description of Hilary was from a comedian commentator on Fox who said she was 'clunky' She doesn't seem to have anything to say and is relying on her experience of being in high office.
Ronald Reagan didn't act old.
Trump may be the better republican candidate, some of the others are scary god fearing types.
jambalaya - Member@Northwind Bernie would not stand a snowballs chance of winning the Presidency.
Yes, that's the propaganda. It just doesn't seem to be true, is all. So it goes, with propaganda.
He won't have the opportunity, sadly, but that's a different matter.
I was just wondering how long Jama would take to make a Sanders = Corbyn comparison.
The situation does seem daft. Trump deeply unpopular with everyone, except his supporters. Sanders with most popular with democrats and least unliked bu the republicans, but no chance of getting the nomination. Even if he wins the popular vote the super delegates would swing it in favour of Clinton, who divides opinion all across the board too.
bit of a shake up with Saunders doing better in the polling
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/pres_general/
not sure if the boost for Kasich is a last ditch effort or a pat on the back for the one who can't win.
His declaration that he won't abide by the promise not to run anyway seems a threat to the convention, Trump vs Cruz/Kasich Vs Clinton/Saunders would be a blood bath for the Republicans.
A lot of Americans I talk to have a quite visceral loathing for Hilary. If it comes down to Trump v. Hilary, I wouldn't bet against him.
EDIT: although those same people also agree that Trump is an idiot. But that's not the same as saying he's unelectable.
His comments on McCain. What a c***.
Even if Trump fails this time, it's clear someone like him gets a lot of support. A slightly less extreme version will almost certainly be president with 10 years.
The situation does seem daft. Trump deeply unpopular with everyone, except his supporters.
Sounds like most politicians to me.
The Trump has revealed how he gets his motivation from old Elvis songs. 😯
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If he gets nomination doubt he'll get presidency because of his unfavourable rating currently 63% (highest of all candidates) Hillary is at 54% not matter how much people hate Hillary they hate him more Bernie is 42%.
Would be interesting to see if his nomination splits the party there are plenty of republicans stating they'd vote for democrat candidate or stay home.
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/donald-trump-favorable-rating
I was just wondering how long Jama would take to make a Sanders = Corbyn comparison.
Its an obvious one though, populist (relative) left wing candidate good for headlines but with no chancs of being elected. In US political terms Bernie is a communist. IMO Hillary and the Democrats are far to the right of Cameron and the Conservatives. As I've said befire I am for Hillary
The recent furore over Trump's abortion comments are very illuminative - the press desperate to create a controversy. If you listen to what he actually said in responce to the question; (my summary)
[i]Interviewer: If abortion is illegal shouod there be a punishment / consequences ?
Trump: Yes probably
Interviewer: but you always have a firm poistion/view
Trump: I do normally buts its complicated [/i]
We here are in danger of living in oir own bubblemofmoress reporting without appreciating that Trump is a lot more popular than we want to admit
without appreciating that Trump is a lot more popular than we want to admit
The BBC really are bad for this; they still seem to be in denial about his popularity.
The BBC's coverage of US politics hasn't had any balance for years, it is appalling and a major failing.
The BBC's coverage of politics hasn't had any balance for years, it is appalling and a major failing.
Ftfy
Hillary and the Democrats are far to the right of Cameron and the Conservatives
Where the F does that put Trump & GOP??
You want to stop whatever it is your smoking because there is no way the Dems & HC are "far to right of the Cameron & the Conservatives"......
Edit: the sane Americans I know all think that Trump will get his ass handed to him on a plate should he & HC be in the same room together i.e. a debate.
If you're interested in US politics listen to the Rachel Maddow podcasts, fascinating stuff at the moment!
If you listen to what he actually said in responce to the question; (my summary)Interviewer: If abortion is illegal shouod there be a punishment / consequences ?
Trump: Yes probably
Interviewer: but you always have a firm poistion/view
Trump: I do normally buts its complicated
And if you read [url= http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/article/2016/mar/30/context-transcript-donald-trump-punishing-women-ab/ ]the further context beyond that[/url] still seems bad.
He also says repeatedly that he is "pro-life" or "pro-life with some exceptions".
Which seems a bit different to 1999 when he was asked "Would President Trump ban partial birth abortion?" and he said [i]"I'm Very Pro Choice.. I hate abortion.. but I believe in choice..."[/i]
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Edit: the sane Americans I know all think that Trump will get his ass handed to him on a plate should he & HC be in the same room together i.e. a debate.
That's a self-selecting group though isn't it?
Hillary has a really toxic brand, at least fifty percent of which is deserved.