[Closed] Does anybody know about towing trailers?

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/DriverLicensing/CaravansTrailersCommercialVehicles/DG_192285

2.55m width limit.

Pants. Thanks, but pants.

even on its side you'll find that car trailers don't have a flat bed wide enough to support it - the wheel arches will be proud of the trailer bed.

might be worth gettign some quotes for a commercial haulier to do it - they can be quite cheap.

A flat, Flat bed trailer...

How were you going to lift it anyhow?

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Are you licenced to pull a trailer with a vehicle?

Anyone with a licence issued for a fair few years now isn't.

if you got your licence before 1998 or 1997 i think you don't need a towing licence

i will be towing with a disco3 so max towing weights should be ok

You're probably right with that, but a word on towing/gross weights in general: What you see printed in the manufacturers user manual are maximum DESIGN weights. These are NOT maximum permitted UK road legal weights. That [i]should[/i] be on the VIN plate. The VIN plate may also have axle weights on it. DO NOT add the axle weights together and assume this is the maximum gross weight. It's not. Maximum gross will be listed as such (abbreviated to GVW IIRC) To include the trailer it's the 'Train Weight' you're looking for. Again, IIRC, for a Disco max train weight is 5.5 tonne. Which is a lot but this includes EVERYTHING in the vehicle and trailer as well.... driver, passengers, tools, the lot, remember 🙂

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I'm a weighbridge clerk. These things I know to be true. I've had a bloke argueing the toss with me that is brand new (Literally, first load...) Mitsubishi Canter could carry 2 tonne. It was a 3.5t vehicle that weighed 2.42t on the 'bridge so it could actually legally carry 1.08t. He had the Mitsubishi salesman on the phone to me and everything, a right pallava, but the salesman had just quoted the max design weight and knew **** all about the real world.

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Are you licenced to pull a trailer with a vehicle?

Anyone with a licence issued for a fair few years now isn't.

Not true, check out the [url= http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/DriverLicensing/CaravansTrailersCommercialVehicles/DG_4022564 ]Direct Gov[/url] website for current entitlement rules. I passed my test after 1st January 1997 and only have category B, not B+E. I can tow a trailer as long as the combined vehicle and trailer MAM (Max Authorised Mass) do not exceed 3.5T.

Category B: Vehicles up to 3.5 tonnes MAM and with up to eight passenger seats

Category B vehicles may be coupled with a trailer up to 750kgs MAM (allowing a combined weight up to 4.25 tonnes MAM) or a trailer over 750kgs MAM provided the MAM of the trailer does not exceed the unladen weight of the towing vehicle, and the combination does not exceed 3.5 tonnes MAM.

For example:

a vehicle with an unladen weight of 1.25 tonnes and a MAM of 2 tonnes coupled with a trailer with a MAM of 1.25 tonnes could be driven by the holder of a category B entitlement. This is because the MAM of the combination does not exceed 3.5 tonnes and also the MAM of the trailer does not exceed the unladen weight of the drawing vehicle

Whereas

the same vehicle with an unladen weight of 1.25 tonnes and a MAM of 2 tonnes when coupled with a trailer with a MAM of 1.5 tonnes would fall within category B+E. This is because although the combined weight of the vehicle and trailer is within the 3.5 tonnes MAM limit, the MAM of the trailer is more than the unladen weight of the drawing vehicle
Vehicle manufacturers normally recommend a maximum weight of trailer appropriate to their vehicle. Details can usually be found in the vehicle's handbook or obtained from car dealerships. The size of the trailer recommended for an average family car with an unladen weight of around 1 tonne would be well within the new category B threshold.

As per the question I think the [url= http://www.ntta.co.uk/law/law/dimensions.aspx ]width[/url] is more of an issue than the weight - for any vehicle. The max width for any trailer, even an HGV trailer is 2.5m.

You can't overhang that by more than a foot on either side without notifying the police, getting a escort and so on. Thats going to be the case however you move it - not just if you tow it with a car

Weight wise apart from your licence you need to add the weight of the trailer to the load - if they come to more 3.5t then you've got other hoops to jump

Can you turn the building on its side?

A disco 3 will have a 3.5 tonne towing weight but youll be needin a braked trailer for that

As long as your not getting paid -or youll be needing a taco

If you didnt pass your test before 1997 or have a relevent trailer ticket - forget it

Are you traveling far ? Id move it along the street a that size but i wouldnt be trying to travel any distance - you will get pulled over if seen ! - no way it can be broken into smaller units ?

as an aside you can no longer sell a trailer that hasnt got type approval..no more home made trailers etc..

With a large braked trailer, electronicly adjustable trailer brakes are the best, not sure if your Disco will have the controls for them fitted as standard.

Flat pack?

I wonder whether the OP has moved the office yet?

I certainly would have been doing it as early as possible before roads get busy !

I would also be pretty concerned about moving something that large if it wasn't designed to be moved. It'll get jolted around a lot, and unless it's very sturdy it could end up shaking itself to bits.

I wonder whether the OP has moved the office yet?

Oh for ****s sake. Will the mods please leave a note to say they've removed a spam post thats revived an old thread. I can't report my own posts to bring their attention so I'm going to report yours DJ15 🙂

Oh I didn't notice it was old... d'oh.

Me either ha , hadnt had coffee this morning .....

The other guys questin still stands .... Is it moved 😉

Am I right in thinking the new page glitch is related to removed posts messing up the page tally - for that reason alone wouldn't it be better to leave the post in place and delete the contents (and leave a note) rather than just disappear the post altogether

I'm not sure that the new page glitch is caused by removing posts. I think it's an arithmetic error in the pagination.

OP, get a twin axle as they're easier to reverse.

lol

Brilliant thread guys - keep it up!